Trump Has COVID megathread (update 10/24: 2 Pence staffers test positive)

[Badger]

More importantly, will his supporters?

[roxas11]

[Hammy]

There's literally a Trump tweet for everything. Somehow during Obama's presidency he managed to predict the entire course of his own.

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

I have a gut feeling that his condition is going to worsen over the weekend.

[Gustaf]

There's literally a Trump tweet for everything. Somehow during Obama's presidency he managed to predict the entire course of his own.

It's not actually that strange, because he's projecting. He imagined Obama to do the sort of sh***y things he'd do if he were president so of course then he does them all when given the chance!

[Hammy]

There's literally a Trump tweet for everything. Somehow during Obama's presidency he managed to predict the entire course of his own.

It's not actually that strange, because he's projecting. He imagined Obama to do the sort of sh***y things he'd do if he were president so of course then he does them all when given the chance!

The even bigger irony that I remember is him demanding Obama resign because of literally two ebola deaths.

[BlueSwan]

I have a gut feeling that his condition is going to worsen over the weekend.

I'm sure the writers are going to have him on his deathbed before he makes a miraculous recovery in time for the third debate to reignite the horse race.

[Horus]

I have a gut feeling that his condition is going to worsen over the weekend.

I'm sure the writer's are going to have him on his deathbed before he makes a miraculous recovery in time for the third debate to reignite the horse race.

This is so obviously what's going to happen it's not even funny.

[BlueSwan]

I have a gut feeling that his condition is going to worsen over the weekend.

I'm sure the writer's are going to have him on his deathbed before he makes a miraculous recovery in time for the third debate to reignite the horse race.

This is so obviously what's going to happen it's not even funny.

This past week has been like watching late seasons of 24, where they throw everything and the kitchen sink at every single episode.

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I have a gut feeling that his condition is going to worsen over the weekend.

I'm sure the writer's are going to have him on his deathbed before he makes a miraculous recovery in time for the third debate to reignite the horse race.

This is so obviously what's going to happen it's not even funny.

2020 jumped the shark long ago. Too unrealistic.

[Landslide Lyndon]

TRUMP WASN'T TESTED BEFORE THE DEBATE!!!

https://twitter.com/AndrewKirell/status/1312121190597586944?s=20

Honor System. Trump. Pick two concepts in the world that are less in conflict oh, I dare you.

I doubt it was a matter of honor. Trump is tested every morning so he probably felt that another test just a few hours later was unnecessary.

[President Johnson]

Ask Susan Collins.

[Middle-aged Europe]

No.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

There are people out there that want to believe that Covid never existed and that we in a 4 percent unemployment economy like in 2016, people that don't wear masks are risking their lives like Trump.

But, we all live in a World together and we have caught diseases from one another, that's why we are mortal, not immortal

Most people fatality in hospitals and nursing homes are do to getting germs from others, not just their own gerns

[Podgy the Bear]

Trump also did the same when Hillary got sick in September 2016  with pneumonia and had to be hospitalized:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/11/new-trump-ad-revives-and-mainstreams-sick-hillary-attack/

Trump is a scumbag and deserves everything he gets.  Nevertheless, I hope and pray that he recovers fully from this dreadful virus.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

If Trump dies before ACB is confirmed, is her nomination still valid?  Or does she need to be renominated by the new president?

[President Johnson]

If Trump dies before ACB is confirmed, is her nomination still valid?  Or does she need to be renominated by the new president?

Good question. I would assume the nomination remains valid. John F. Kennedy made a Court of Appeals nomination in September 1963, but the judge was confirmed in December 1963, after the president died. However, in Wikipedia's list, there is footnote saying "nominated by John F. Kennedy, but appointed by Lyndon B. Johnson". Not exactly sure what that means, whether LBJ had to resubmit the nomination document. But even if ACB’s nomination were to become invalid, Pence would just submit it again. Not sure whether that may cause the process to restart and coast then too much time.


Edit: Seems like no additional nomination was sent:

On September 9, 1963, Edwards was nominated by President John F. Kennedy to a seat on the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit vacated by Judge Thomas Francis McAllister.[1] His confirmation hearing in the United States Senate commenced the day before President Kennedy was assassinated. Edwards was confirmed on December 16, 1963,[1] over the objections of the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, J. Edgar Hoover.[2] Edwards received his commission on December 19, 1963, from President Lyndon B. Johnson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clifton_Edwards_Jr.#Federal_judicial_service

[Middle-aged Europe]

Seems like they're pumping Trump full with any drug they have at Walter Reed as a preventive measure (except hydroxychloroquine, because that could kill him).

So, I suppose he's probably gonna make it.

[Rand]

[Torrain]

Seems like they're pumping Trump full with any drug they have at Walter Reed as a preventive measure (except hydroxychloroquine, because that could kill him).

So, I suppose he's probably gonna make it.

In theory...

The problem is that we don't actually have much evidence about which of these treatments are actually effective against COVID-19. They're just throwing everything against the wall, to see what sticks.

Remesdivir has been associated with mild-moderate kidney damage in some patients, and in my experience with scientific and medical ethics, you don't give someone a potentially dangerous treatment unless withholding the treatment will lead to a significantly worse outcome.

I'd wager things are pretty touch and go right now. Statistically he's got good odds if he's in similar condition a week from now, but if he goes onto a ventilator, we could be looking at a far darker scenario.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Seems like they're pumping Trump full with any drug they have at Walter Reed as a preventive measure (except hydroxychloroquine, because that could kill him).

So, I suppose he's probably gonna make it.

In theory...

The problem is that we don't actually have much evidence about which of these treatments are actually effective against COVID-19. They're just throwing everything against the wall, to see what sticks.

Remesdivir has been associated with mild-moderate kidney damage in some patients, and in my experience with scientific and medical ethics, you don't give someone a potentially dangerous treatment unless withholding the treatment will lead to a significantly worse outcome.

I'd wager things are pretty touch and go right now. Statistically he's got good odds if he's in similar condition a week from now, but if he goes onto a ventilator, we could be looking at a far darker scenario.

Well, based on that medical article from The Atlantic someone posted here yesterday, Donald Trump would normally have almost a 20% chance of dying given his age and body mass index. Maybe they decided a nominal fatality rate of 20% justifies risking kidney damage.

In addition, there were those reports that Trump started to panick yesterday after developing mild symptoms so maybe he's eager to agree to (push his doctors for?) any treatment at this point.

I mean there was this episode earlier this year were he reportedly took hydroxychloroquine for a while on his own initiatve despite having had no COVID infection at all. So maybe he insisted on getting hydroxychloroquine shots now as well and the doctors managed to negotiate him down to a antibiotics cocktail and remdesivir, because that at least could help him.

[Torrain]

Seems like they're pumping Trump full with any drug they have at Walter Reed as a preventive measure (except hydroxychloroquine, because that could kill him).

So, I suppose he's probably gonna make it.

In theory...

The problem is that we don't actually have much evidence about which of these treatments are actually effective against COVID-19. They're just throwing everything against the wall, to see what sticks.

Remesdivir has been associated with mild-moderate kidney damage in some patients, and in my experience with scientific and medical ethics, you don't give someone a potentially dangerous treatment unless withholding the treatment will lead to a significantly worse outcome.

I'd wager things are pretty touch and go right now. Statistically he's got good odds if he's in similar condition a week from now, but if he goes onto a ventilator, we could be looking at a far darker scenario.

Well, based on that medical article from The Atlantic someone posted here yesterday, Donald Trump would normally have almost a 20% chance of dying given his age and body mass index. Maybe they decided a nominal fatality rate of 20% justifies risking kidney damage.

In addition, there were those reports that Trump started to panick yesterday after developing mild symptoms so maybe he's eager to agree to (push his doctors for?) any treatment at this point.

I mean there was this episode earlier this year were he reportedly took hydroxychloroquine for a while on his own initiatve despite having had no COVID infection at all. So maybe he insisted on getting hydroxychloroquine shots now as well and the doctors managed to negotiate him down to a antibiotics cocktail and remdesivir, because that at least could help him.

That’s fair. If the risk of death was 20%, that would provide the opportunity to cut a lot of red tape. And yeah, I could see these treatments being a negotiation down from something a lot less sensible that Trump was pushing for.

[Brandern]

The drug treatments they are giving Trump are super random and possibly really risky.

https://twitter.com/lmorello_dc/status/1312240768376082438?s=20

https://twitter.com/lmorello_dc/status/1312240770867486725?s=20

Trump is like Elvis, taking handfuls of random, dangerous drugs as long as they are prescribed by a doctor.

But illegal drugs are bad!!! Stay in school, stay off drugs.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

When you get everything manufactured from Philippines, China and Japan, you are bound to get another plague, we had the bird flu in 2010. Sports and Nike is made in China and automobiles is made in Japan and Cell phones are Samsung and so are TVs, made in East Asian countries

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1312376365019205634?s=21