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« on: October 01, 2020, 10:35:59 AM »
« edited: October 01, 2020, 10:41:34 AM by wbrocks67 »

Poll conducted Tuesday & Wednesday

Biden 54
Trump 41

Poll also found Biden won the debate, 53% say Biden won, while only 29% say Trump won.

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Wednesday’s CNBC/Change Research poll also showed Biden gaining ground nationally over Trump: 54% of respondents picked Biden, while 41% picked Trump. That’s wider than the gap currently displayed by some national polling average trackers.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/01/biden-leads-polls-voters-say-he-beat-trump-in-first-debate.html
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2020, 10:38:18 AM »

Holy smokes
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2020, 10:38:21 AM »

Quick, somebody post the oh yeah meme.

Shaping up to be a Biden landslide.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2020, 10:38:23 AM »

Love to see it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2020, 10:38:48 AM »

Good for Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2020, 10:39:16 AM »

If I may:

OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2020, 10:42:30 AM »

The race is probably shifting to Biden+9. This is a minor outlier for now, but Biden seems to be expanding his lead (or rather, Trump is decreasing his numbers)
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2020, 10:44:19 AM »

I wonder how much of this will stick, but if this is true, Biden just doubled his lead for a while.

Remember, any day Trump isn't closing the gap is a good day for Biden. Doubly so if the gap widens. That's more ground for the incumbent to make up
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2020, 10:44:44 AM »


I miss nuclear Elmo.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2020, 10:45:05 AM »

925 likely voters
MoE: 3.22% for the full likely voter sample
Changes with September 18-20 poll

Biden 54% (+3)
Trump 41% (-1)
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2020, 10:46:00 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2020, 10:46:13 AM »

Change Research is trash, but yikes for Trump.
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2020, 10:46:16 AM »

Not that I think Biden will win by 13, but this tracks with a slight Biden lead in Iowa and a close race in South Carolina.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2020, 10:46:20 AM »

The hounds are bellowing as they tree their prey...
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2020, 10:46:46 AM »

There is no way to spin it...this is a terrible poll for Trump.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2020, 10:47:19 AM »

I've been calling a 54 / 44 Biden landslide for weeks but now I'm worried it will be even bigger.
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2020, 10:47:31 AM »

Biden is so done it's unbelievable. This place is going to be a sh*tshow on election night.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2020, 10:47:39 AM »

This is probably Trump's worst poll of the cycle so far.
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2020, 10:51:14 AM »

At the risk of having something large and heavy hurled at my head, isn't Change a pretty poor pollster? (Not to say that this doesn't spell even more trouble for President Trump.)
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2020, 10:51:21 AM »

Before people bring up 2016 polling, the main difference is that when polls would show Clinton with hugely inflated leads it would be immediately in the aftermath of something stupid Trump did/said. Then her margins would deflate back to low single-digits. This margin is consistent with a Biden+9 national lead, which has barely fluctuated for months.
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2020, 10:52:07 AM »

Before people bring up 2016 polling, the main difference is that when polls would show Clinton with hugely inflated leads it would be immediately in the aftermath of something stupid Trump did/said. Then her margins would deflate back to low single-digits. This margin is consistent with a Biden+9 national lead, which has barely fluctuated for months.

Not to mention, it would still be like 48-40 or like 46-38 or something. This has 5% undecided/other versus the anywhere from 10-15% we saw in 2016.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2020, 10:52:32 AM »

At the risk of having something large and heavy hurled at my head, isn't Change a pretty poor pollster? (Not to say that this doesn't spell even more trouble for President Trump.)

Change is pretty junky, so at this point all we can do is use the trends, and Biden is up by 4 from their poll last week
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2020, 11:08:34 AM »

Yeah, Change Research kind of sucks, but we've been getting quite a number of Biden +10, Biden +11 polls over the past couple of days. Most of these firms don't have much in the way of an established track-record though, so I've been holding off on concluding that Biden's lead is increasing, but it kind of does appear that way, tbh.



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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2020, 11:14:00 AM »

Throbbing.
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2020, 11:18:10 AM »

The end of this long national nightmare is in sight.
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