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Question: Which of these do you favor?
#1
Owners forced to serve Pregnant women
 
#2
Let bar owner choose policy
 
#3
Let bar owner also choose to serve pregnant women but let bartenders refuse
 
#4
Illegal to serve alcohol to pregnant women.
 
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Total Voters: 44

Author Topic: Laws and Pregnant women drinking at a bar  (Read 627 times)
𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆
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« on: September 29, 2020, 01:01:52 PM »

Option 3 seems to be the most consistent with other positions of mine.
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𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆
Battista Minola 1616
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E: -5.55, S: -1.57

« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2020, 02:14:42 PM »

A bartender can and should be able to deny service for any reason he or she sees fit. Bodily autonomy or not, go get an 18 pack from the fast station and sit on your couch or something.

Mh? That feels like a statement in need of a lot of qualifications.
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𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆
Battista Minola 1616
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E: -5.55, S: -1.57

« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2020, 03:07:27 PM »

A bartender can and should be able to deny service for any reason he or she sees fit. Bodily autonomy or not, go get an 18 pack from the fast station and sit on your couch or something.

Mh? That feels like a statement in need of a lot of qualifications.

It isn't.

So you are telling me a bartender, for example, should be able to deny service because he doesn't like the ethnicity of the customer?
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𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆
Battista Minola 1616
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E: -5.55, S: -1.57

« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2020, 03:23:23 PM »

A bartender can and should be able to deny service for any reason he or she sees fit. Bodily autonomy or not, go get an 18 pack from the fast station and sit on your couch or something.

Mh? That feels like a statement in need of a lot of qualifications.

It isn't.

So you are telling me a bartender, for example, should be able to deny service because he doesn't like the ethnicity of the customer?
That would be against the law, now wouldn't it?

Yes. According to the OP, denying it to a pregnant woman would be against the law too, at least in NY and some other states.
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𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆
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E: -5.55, S: -1.57

« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2020, 01:23:05 PM »

Drinking while pregnant should be a crime.

Attempting to enforce this would make enforcing an abortion ban look like a piece of cake.

It seems to me that many people who are pro-choice are leaning towards option 4, which honestly I find puzzling, although probably I shouldn't.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2020, 07:44:33 AM »

Drinking while pregnant should be a crime.

Attempting to enforce this would make enforcing an abortion ban look like a piece of cake.

If a child is born with fetal alcohol syndrome, the police should be notified and do an investigation to see if they can find evidence that the woman was drinking while pregnant.  If so, she should be charged with knowingly ruining her child's life by giving it fetal alcohol syndrome.

What should be the penalty for that crime then?
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