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Question: Which of these do you favor?
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Owners forced to serve Pregnant women
 
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Let bar owner choose policy
 
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Let bar owner also choose to serve pregnant women but let bartenders refuse
 
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Illegal to serve alcohol to pregnant women.
 
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Author Topic: Laws and Pregnant women drinking at a bar  (Read 626 times)
SevenEleven
Junior Chimp
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« on: September 29, 2020, 02:06:08 PM »

A bartender can and should be able to deny service for any reason he or she sees fit. Bodily autonomy or not, go get an 18 pack from the fast station and sit on your couch or something.
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SevenEleven
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2020, 02:19:59 PM »

A bartender can and should be able to deny service for any reason he or she sees fit. Bodily autonomy or not, go get an 18 pack from the fast station and sit on your couch or something.

Mh? That feels like a statement in need of a lot of qualifications.

It isn't.
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SevenEleven
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2020, 03:10:26 PM »

A bartender can and should be able to deny service for any reason he or she sees fit. Bodily autonomy or not, go get an 18 pack from the fast station and sit on your couch or something.

Mh? That feels like a statement in need of a lot of qualifications.

It isn't.

So you are telling me a bartender, for example, should be able to deny service because he doesn't like the ethnicity of the customer?
That would be against the law, now wouldn't it?
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SevenEleven
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2020, 03:45:02 PM »

A bartender can and should be able to deny service for any reason he or she sees fit. Bodily autonomy or not, go get an 18 pack from the fast station and sit on your couch or something.

Mh? That feels like a statement in need of a lot of qualifications.

It isn't.

So you are telling me a bartender, for example, should be able to deny service because he doesn't like the ethnicity of the customer?
That would be against the law, now wouldn't it?

Yes. According to the OP, denying it to a pregnant woman would be against the law too, at least in NY and some other states.

There are plenty of legal ways to deny service to these people, even if it involves deliberate deceit.
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SevenEleven
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2020, 03:51:25 PM »

How is the person at the bar supposed to know, particularly in the earlier stages? It's not something you can police without being creepy.

Anyway, as much as I'd like people who are planning on carrying to term to use some common sense when it comes to drinking while pregnant, there's no point in 'white knight-ing' on their behalf. And most bar staff just want to get on with their job.

How is it white-knighting?
Drinking alcohol doesn't really hurt the women directly, it hurts the fetus/baby.


It's not. Most bar patrons would be very uncomfortable seeing a visibly or known-to-be pregnant woman drinking in their midst, and rightly so. In the interest of providing customers with a welcoming environment, bartenders should find a way to ensure that pregnant women are not drinking.
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