Should California be split up?

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Of course it should. The level of malapportionment currently existing in the US Senate is unacceptable.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Hmm, undecided. It would mean a larger senate which means a bigger drain on money, and more senators. It also forms a precedent for splitting up other states, into New York Upstate and NYC, the formation of D.C. and the inclusion of Puerto Rico as a state. Splitting up California also means that there is a bigger chance the electoral votes will get split and that Republicans in the future (even if unlikely) win either North California or South California, although it's very unlikely given Cali's current leftwards trend. I don't know if it's in the benefit of California to split it's state in two. It just means a bigger drain on the federal budget. The senate is created with the goal of representing the states as well as possible, and to ensure that smaller states still get representation and that rural areas aren't overwritten by what cities want, i think that the current senate partitioning is still best. It also forms a precedent for splitting up states and making the EC even more powerful (if NY gets split, into upstate and the city, the upstate will lean Republican).

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

people who talk about carving up states for partisan gain have classic politics brain. The primary impact of partioning California or Texas would not merely be trivial stuff like representation in the Senate; it would be a huge change to the how millions of people are governed.

[MarkD]

No. I'd rather see California increase the size of its state legislature. Instead of only 40 Senators and 80 Assemblymen, I'd rather the state have 75 Senators and 225 Assemblyment.

[Senator Incitatus]

No, all state borders should be eliminated and replaced by executive departments. We should model our government on Napoleonic France.

[SevenEleven]

California should remain as is, it's the Senate which needs to change.

[John Dule]

Yes. I would love to put a few states in between me and Bakersfield.

[President Johnson]

No. The best state should remain one.

[Big Abraham]

Unless you equally divide every state sans Wyoming into parcels of land ~500k in population apiece, and give them all statehood, the U.S. Senate will never be "equal" (and that's assuming then that there aren't massive population shifts in the near-ish future, which seems unlikely given the demographic history of America).

The U.S. Senate will never be "equal" and was never designed to be. Malapportionment is its raison d'être. If you have a problem with this, it's not the unity of California that should be the target of your ire

[AGA]

No, although it is much a better idea than splitting up New York, which would almost certainly help the GOP.

[Former President tack50]

No, all state borders should be eliminated and replaced by executive departments. We should model our government on Napoleonic France.

Who would be the new Napoleon?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

An argument can be made for splitting California, but the Senate ain't it.

[Beet]

Yes, California is too big anyways. So are Texas and Florida. There comes a point where the state government is too distant to be responsive to local needs. When that occurs in a nation-sized state with multiple major metropolitan areas, there are natural ways for a split.

[It’s so Joever]

No.
Instead we should try to gain state legislatures, gerrymander the GOP out, and suppress rural voters.
If we succeed we can hold the senate without splitting CA.
Let’s just play the GOP’s games.

[Stuart98]

Optimal solution: split California 30 ways, pass a constitutional amendment turning the Senate into a body as unimportant as the UK's house of lords, rejoin California back into one state. /s

[RINO Tom]

No, I generally support states becoming MORE united ... not literally splitting up.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

No, I generally support states becoming MORE united ... not literally splitting up.

Like in the USA shed federalism and become a unitary country?

[Santander]

Give it all back to Mexico.

[RINO Tom]

No, I generally support states becoming MORE united ... not literally splitting up.

Like in the USA shed federalism and become a unitary country?

No, just that being from Illinois (and getting incredibly annoyed by those who try to drive a wedge between Chicago and the rest of the state, on both sides), I have a distaste for regional rivalry WITHIN states.

[AndyHogan14]

NO
Signed,
A Californian