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« on: September 28, 2020, 12:07:41 PM »

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_US_092820/

September 24-27
Likely voter subsample not yet released but here are the results for it
MoE: 3.5% for 809 registered voters
Changes with September 3-8 poll

Biden 50% (-1)
Trump 45% (+1)
Hawkins 1% (n/c)
Jorgensen 1% (n/c)
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2020, 12:09:15 PM »

Pretty much the same. Just noise.
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2020, 12:13:10 PM »

Underwhelming.
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2020, 12:13:44 PM »

:/

Not a worrying shift, but if this is accurate, its a bit too close for comfort.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2020, 12:14:17 PM »

Getting close enough to that 3-4 points Trump needs it to settle at.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2020, 12:18:11 PM »

Monmouth’s LV screen seems really tight this cycle...wonder if they’re on to something or overcompensating.
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2020, 12:18:20 PM »

Biden is at 50%, so the margin is irrelevant. Also, pretty much every other poll shows Biden leading nationally by 7-10%. Throw it in the average.
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2020, 12:19:43 PM »


No.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2020, 12:19:47 PM »

Y'all may have wanted to check the crosstabs. Trump winning Indies here - that has not borne out in any other poll really. Also Biden winning 18-34 year olds by.... 7%.

That being said, this is clearly an R-leaning sample (which has been the norm for Monmouth recently, not sure why), and Biden is still up by 5/6.

He's +6 in RV, +5 in LV. Generic ballot is +7 RV / +6 LV
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2020, 12:20:18 PM »

There are still big time red flags for Trump like Biden up 61-29 with moderates. If Trump is ahead with independents but down 32 with moderates it suggests the sample is a bit more conservative leaning. Overall its noise, Biden is pretty much +5-10 in every national poll with the median around 7-8.
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2020, 12:20:18 PM »

Yes.
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2020, 12:22:06 PM »


1. Swing voters exist, although Biden having 44% of LVs saying they'd "definitely" vote for him suggests there really aren't many. Margin of error is also worth considering.
2. If the popular vote split 50% Biden - 47% Trump, I'd predict a Trump victory in the electoral college (not so with this sample's 50-45). I'd say the margin is still relevant.
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2020, 12:22:46 PM »


Hardly irrelevant if the results end up being 50.5-48 and Trump wins again b/c of the EC.
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2020, 12:24:01 PM »

5 pages? 7 pages? Let's see if Atlas can out do itself!
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2020, 12:25:06 PM »

Biden is at 50%, so the margin is irrelevant. Also, pretty much every other poll shows Biden leading nationally by 7-10%. Throw it in the average.
Biden can get over 50% and lose.....
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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2020, 12:25:29 PM »

Their LV model uses the same sample size but just weights it differently, so this poll has 809 likely voters and a MoE of 3.5%
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2020, 12:27:57 PM »


1. Swing voters exist, although Biden having 44% of LVs saying they'd "definitely" vote for him suggests there really aren't many. Margin of error is also worth considering.
2. If the popular vote split 50% Biden - 47% Trump, I'd predict a Trump victory in the electoral college (not so with this sample's 50-45). I'd say the margin is still relevant.


Biden is at 50%, so the margin is irrelevant. Also, pretty much every other poll shows Biden leading nationally by 7-10%. Throw it in the average.
Biden can get over 50% and lose.....




READ AGAIN:
Also, pretty much every other poll shows Biden leading nationally by 7-10%. Throw it in the average.
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2020, 12:31:51 PM »

This is a 6 to 8 point race, if there is a poll where Biden leads by 10, you accept the one where Biden's leads by 5 as well. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2020, 12:32:35 PM »

Just take the average of 10, 10, 8 and 5. If Biden is up by 8 nationally he'll get some where he is up by 10 and some where he is up by 5.
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2020, 12:32:52 PM »

This is a 6 to 8 point race, if there is a poll where Biden leads by 10, you accept the one where Biden's leads by 5 as well. 

The higher quality pollsters, Emerson, Monmouth etc are showing a 4-5 point race.
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2020, 12:33:52 PM »

This is a 6 to 8 point race, if there is a poll where Biden leads by 10, you accept the one where Biden's leads by 5 as well. 

The higher quality pollsters, Emerson, Monmouth etc are showing a 4-5 point race.

LOL WHAT?!?
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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2020, 12:34:44 PM »

This is a 6 to 8 point race, if there is a poll where Biden leads by 10, you accept the one where Biden's leads by 5 as well. 

The higher quality pollsters, Emerson, Monmouth etc are showing a 4-5 point race.

This isn’t a serious post, is it?
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2020, 12:35:27 PM »

This is a 6 to 8 point race, if there is a poll where Biden leads by 10, you accept the one where Biden's leads by 5 as well. 

The higher quality pollsters, Emerson, Monmouth etc are showing a 4-5 point race.

LOL WHAT?!?

Emerson is no less reliable than MC but the latter is beloved here
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2020, 12:35:58 PM »

This is a 6 to 8 point race, if there is a poll where Biden leads by 10, you accept the one where Biden's leads by 5 as well. 

The higher quality pollsters, Emerson, Monmouth etc are showing a 4-5 point race.

LOL WHAT?!?

Emerson is no less reliable than MC but the latter is beloved here

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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2020, 12:36:46 PM »

This is a 6 to 8 point race, if there is a poll where Biden leads by 10, you accept the one where Biden's leads by 5 as well. 

The higher quality pollsters, Emerson, Monmouth etc are showing a 4-5 point race.

Not entirely. ABC/WaPo is pointing to a 6-10% race, Siena/NYT is suggesting an 8% lead, Emerson's indicating 3%, Marquette has the lead at 10%, NBC/WSJ has it at 8%, Marist suggests 7-9% and IBD/TIPP has it at 6%.
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