UK's Channel 4 News: Trump 2016 campaign tried to deter millions of Black Americans from voting

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https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1310584937356103686
Even more bombshell news coming against Trump. This time from across the pond. This is not surprising though.

[Badger]

Republicans response in a nutshell, so none of you need post.

It's all a lie designed as a hit job on fearless leader!

The Foreign Press hates Trump even more then our own liberal media! More fake news!

Even if true, it's exaggerated. There is no hard evidence that Trump or any Republican operative went to any black voters house and burned a cross in the yard with a sign saying don't vote. So it's obviously just a mountain out of a molehill.

Well, vote bundling and voter fraud made this kind of suppression necessary. It's the Democrats fault! Did I mention that Democrats were the real supporters of slavery and segregation?

Even if true... um.... Socialism! BLM and antifa radicals!! ABORTION!!!

[หมูเด้ง]

Republicans response in a nutshell, so none of you need post.

It's all a lie designed as a hit job on fearless leader!

The Foreign Press hates Trump even more then our own liberal media! More fake news!

Even if true, it's exaggerated. There is no hard evidence that Trump or any Republican operative went to any black voters house and burned a cross in the yard with a sign saying don't vote. So it's obviously just a mountain out of a molehill.

Well, vote bundling and voter fraud made this kind of suppression necessary. It's the Democrats fault! Did I mention that Democrats were the real supporters of slavery and segregation?

Even if true... um.... Socialism! BLM and antifa radicals!! ABORTION!!!

ABOR☦ION!!!!!11112

[Don't blame me I voted for Harris]

tHe MoSt pRo BlAcK pReSiDeNt iN HiStOrY!

[GP270watch]

 Trump is not uniquely awful in this. The Republcians have been trying to win elections by subtraction long before Trump. I put this on the entire Republican Party.

[Nyvin]

Isn't this just...standard practice for the GOP?   I don't see anything unique to Trump here.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Who cares? Trying to persuade swing voters is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Republicans to turn out is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Democrats not to turn out is legitimate.

[GP270watch]

Isn't this just...standard practice for the GOP?   I don't see anything unique to Trump here.

 The only thing Trump and his campaign did uniquely was use social media to more precisely target those black voters with misinformation or disinformation. But the GOP has been using all kinds of schemes to remove black voters from the voter rolls before and after Trump. Very shameful for a nation that likes to hold itself up as the leading democracy in the world.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Isn't this just...standard practice for the GOP?   I don't see anything unique to Trump here.

 The only thing Trump and his campaign did uniquely was use social media to more precisely target those black voters with misinformation or disinformation. But the GOP has been using all kinds of schemes to remove black voters from the voter rolls before and after Trump. Very shameful for a nation that likes to hold itself up as the leading democracy in the world.

And yet education adjusted black turnout exceeds white turnout.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

And the Trump campaign did that for millions of whites as well.   Does anyone think Democrats don't use similar data mining programs to target messages in hopes of depressing turnout among those they consider out of reach for themselves?

[Pericles]

Who cares? Trying to persuade swing voters is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Republicans to turn out is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Democrats not to turn out is legitimate.

Not really. Participation in democracy itself is good and it is wrong for campaigns and parties to try and deliberately reduce turnout. They should win by having the widest appeal, not by playing with the electorate so their minority base (minority as in minority of the public) gets undue weight.

[Badger]

And the Trump campaign did that for millions of whites as well.   Does anyone think Democrats don't use similar data mining programs to target messages in hopes of depressing turnout among those they consider out of reach for themselves?

Evidence please?

Gotta admit, shua. Among my various expected responses from conservatives, I did not begin to forecast "Democrats do voter suppression too!1!!" That is truly ( chef's kiss).

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Who cares? Trying to persuade swing voters is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Republicans to turn out is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Democrats not to turn out is legitimate.

Not really. Participation in democracy itself is good and it is wrong for campaigns and parties to try and deliberately reduce turnout. They should win by having the widest appeal, not by playing with the electorate so their minority base (minority as in minority of the public) gets undue weight.

Why?

[Badger]

Who cares? Trying to persuade swing voters is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Republicans to turn out is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Democrats not to turn out is legitimate.

Not really. Participation in democracy itself is good and it is wrong for campaigns and parties to try and deliberately reduce turnout. They should win by having the widest appeal, not by playing with the electorate so their minority base (minority as in minority of the public) gets undue weight.

Why?

If you have to ask why voter suppression is bad, especially for African Americans whom have been subject to literally a century-and-a-half of historical voter suppression....

Well, that just means you are the poster in question. No surprises here. Move along people.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Who cares? Trying to persuade swing voters is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Republicans to turn out is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Democrats not to turn out is legitimate.

Not really. Participation in democracy itself is good and it is wrong for campaigns and parties to try and deliberately reduce turnout. They should win by having the widest appeal, not by playing with the electorate so their minority base (minority as in minority of the public) gets undue weight.

Why?

If you have to ask why voter suppression is bad, especially for African Americans whom have been subject to literally a century-and-a-half of historical voter suppression....

Well, that just means you are the poster in question. No surprises here. Move along people.

And yet black turnout was higher than white turnout.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

And the Trump campaign did that for millions of whites as well.   Does anyone think Democrats don't use similar data mining programs to target messages in hopes of depressing turnout among those they consider out of reach for themselves?

Evidence please?

Gotta admit, shua. Among my various expected responses from conservatives, I did not begin to forecast "Democrats do voter suppression too!1!!" That is truly ( chef's kiss).

We know they use the same technology to microtarget which messages they send out to which people.  We know they have no scruples about putting out ads that focus on the other candidate's negatives rather than their own candidate's positives.  I don't have proof but it's not a big leap to imagine they put these two things together.

[ProudModerate2]

Who cares? Trying to persuade swing voters is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Republicans to turn out is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Democrats not to turn out is legitimate.

[Badger]

And the Trump campaign did that for millions of whites as well.   Does anyone think Democrats don't use similar data mining programs to target messages in hopes of depressing turnout among those they consider out of reach for themselves?

Evidence please?

Gotta admit, shua. Among my various expected responses from conservatives, I did not begin to forecast "Democrats do voter suppression too!1!!" That is truly ( chef's kiss).

We know they use the same technology to microtarget which messages they send out to which people.  We know they have no scruples about putting out ads that focus on the other candidate's negatives rather than their own candidate's positives.  I don't have proof but it's not a big leap to imagine they put these two things together.

So, no evidence other than the lamest comparison ever in attempting to draw a direct connection between negative advertising to racist voter suppression, and otherwise pulling hypotheses out of your ass. Got it.

[Crumpets]

Who leaks to this kind of stuff to Channel 4 in the UK? Very odd.

[Badger]

Who leaks to this kind of stuff to Channel 4 in the UK? Very odd.

Sounds like they just did better investigating and scooped Statewide news bureaus.

[GP270watch]

Who leaks to this kind of stuff to Channel 4 in the UK? Very odd.

Sounds like they just did better investigating and scooped Statewide news bureaus.

This traces back to Cambridge Analytica which was a big story over there because of the Brexit vote.

[pbrower2a]

Who cares? Trying to persuade swing voters is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Republicans to turn out is legitimate, trying to persuade marginal Democrats not to turn out is legitimate.

I can imagine what "clean law enforcement" meant to the KKK of the 1920's. (The typeface is typical of the 1920's)".

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

Yawn.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

And the Trump campaign did that for millions of whites as well.   Does anyone think Democrats don't use similar data mining programs to target messages in hopes of depressing turnout among those they consider out of reach for themselves?

Evidence please?

Gotta admit, shua. Among my various expected responses from conservatives, I did not begin to forecast "Democrats do voter suppression too!1!!" That is truly ( chef's kiss).

We know they use the same technology to microtarget which messages they send out to which people.  We know they have no scruples about putting out ads that focus on the other candidate's negatives rather than their own candidate's positives.  I don't have proof but it's not a big leap to imagine they put these two things together.

So, no evidence other than the lamest comparison ever in attempting to draw a direct connection between negative advertising to racist voter suppression, and otherwise pulling hypotheses out of your ass. Got it.

Negative advertising is exactly what Trump was doing here, just geared toward people they didn't expect to vote for him anyway.

[Badger]

And the Trump campaign did that for millions of whites as well.   Does anyone think Democrats don't use similar data mining programs to target messages in hopes of depressing turnout among those they consider out of reach for themselves?

Evidence please?

Gotta admit, shua. Among my various expected responses from conservatives, I did not begin to forecast "Democrats do voter suppression too!1!!" That is truly ( chef's kiss).

We know they use the same technology to microtarget which messages they send out to which people.  We know they have no scruples about putting out ads that focus on the other candidate's negatives rather than their own candidate's positives.  I don't have proof but it's not a big leap to imagine they put these two things together.

So, no evidence other than the lamest comparison ever in attempting to draw a direct connection between negative advertising to racist voter suppression, and otherwise pulling hypotheses out of your ass. Got it.

Negative advertising is exactly what Trump was doing here, just geared toward people they didn't expect to vote for him anyway.

No. That's not even remotely...

Oh good God forget it. Once again you cross the line from habitual need your contrarian outright delusional. Just keep telling yourself that it's totally normal and acceptable to your party has a fundamental election strategy of "stop ni##ers voting", and that's perfectly upright and not the least bit disgraceful.