Anderson Cooper brilliantly destroys Trump's vote-by-mail-lie

[President Johnson]

Honestly, Joe Biden should repeat some of these phrases and hammer Trump on the denate. Within 10 minutes, Anderson Cooper here destroys the argument lie that vote by mail is somehow fraudulent.

[Anni di ghiaccio]

The Mega Dum Dum Republicans who believe Trump's VBM conspiracy theories don't care about what Anderson Cooper says, but it's nice to see the repudiation spelled out so clearly.

[GeneralMacArthur]

I'd estimate less than 10% of Trump voters have watched CNN at any point in the last year.  Most of them get their news from social media or Fox.

[Del Tachi]

Probably the lamest ten minutes I've seen on TV in a while.  Dicing and splicing sound bites from Barr, delivering vague platitudes and unspecified criticisms is...as Cooper says "weak cheese." 

But...I'll humor you by asking this:  why would any candidate (Trump included) pre-commit to accepting election results before any votes have been tabulated?  Answering "let's wait and see" is pretty standard politician speak when "what if"-type questions come up

[Hammy]

Probably the lamest ten minutes I've seen on TV in a while.  Dicing and splicing sound bites from Barr, delivering vague platitudes and unspecified criticisms is...as Cooper says "weak cheese." 

But...I'll humor you by asking this:  why would any candidate (Trump included) pre-commit to accepting election results before any votes have been tabulated?  Answering "let's wait and see" is pretty standard politician speak when "what if"-type questions come up

I didn't care much in 2016. But do you not see the problem when a sitting president who has openly said he would give himself more presidential terms, and "get rid of the ballots" is openly questioning whether he'll accept the outcome?

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

How dare anyone question whether the month of 99% Democratic ballots dumped on us from Philly and Detroit will be legitimate.

[Del Tachi]

Probably the lamest ten minutes I've seen on TV in a while.  Dicing and splicing sound bites from Barr, delivering vague platitudes and unspecified criticisms is...as Cooper says "weak cheese." 

But...I'll humor you by asking this:  why would any candidate (Trump included) pre-commit to accepting election results before any votes have been tabulated?  Answering "let's wait and see" is pretty standard politician speak when "what if"-type questions come up

I didn't care much in 2016. But do you not see the problem when a sitting president who has openly said he would give himself more presidential terms, and "get rid of the ballots" is openly questioning whether he'll accept the outcome?

We live in a federal constitutional republic with a clear, well-established system of checks and balances, a powerful judiciary, independent military, robust civil service, and a highly-educated, liberal citizenry.  None of those things go away if Trump declares himself "president for life," or whatever.   

If I were advising Trump, I would tell him to use the "free and fair" election line whenever the question of him conceding comes up.  Saying anything more limits his options in a close/contested election scenario, which he and his advisors (smartly) want to avoid.  Historical case in point - Al Gore conceded early, so the "sore loser" label stuck to him very easily.  Trump (or Biden, for that matter) being too adamant that he would concede following a specific, hypothetical chronology of circumstances could turn out to be similarly limiting.             

[Badger]

The Mega Dum Dum Republicans who believe Trump's VBM conspiracy theories don't care about what Anderson Cooper says, but it's nice to see the repudiation spelled out so clearly.

The near universal conservative reaction to anything on CNN, or even just outside Fox News, matter how erudite and well-researched, is a simple "CNN?!? FAKE NEWS!!"

For 95 + percent of the 45% cult, literally nothing can or will change their mind, ever.

[BlueSwan]

Probably the lamest ten minutes I've seen on TV in a while.  Dicing and splicing sound bites from Barr, delivering vague platitudes and unspecified criticisms is...as Cooper says "weak cheese." 

But...I'll humor you by asking this:  why would any candidate (Trump included) pre-commit to accepting election results before any votes have been tabulated?  Answering "let's wait and see" is pretty standard politician speak when "what if"-type questions come up

Well maybe because he has been saying at any given opportunity, that the ONLY way that he can lose the election is if there is widespread voter fraud, despite the fact that he's been consistently behind by 5-9% in the polls all year long.

So what he is saying is that IF he loses, THEN there was voter fraud and THEN he will not accept the result given that the election by definition wasn't "fair and free".

Obviously this insane authoritarianism needs to be challenged severely, but I guess you'd rather want a dictator who shares your values than live in a free democracy.

[Del Tachi]

Probably the lamest ten minutes I've seen on TV in a while.  Dicing and splicing sound bites from Barr, delivering vague platitudes and unspecified criticisms is...as Cooper says "weak cheese." 

But...I'll humor you by asking this:  why would any candidate (Trump included) pre-commit to accepting election results before any votes have been tabulated?  Answering "let's wait and see" is pretty standard politician speak when "what if"-type questions come up

Well maybe because he has been saying at any given opportunity, that the ONLY way that he can lose the election is if there is widespread voter fraud, despite the fact that he's been consistently behind by 5-9% in the polls all year long.

So what he is saying is that IF he loses, THEN there was voter fraud and THEN he will not accept the result given that the election by definition wasn't "fair and free".

Obviously this insane authoritarianism needs to be challenged severely, but I guess you'd rather want a dictator who shares your values than live in a free democracy.

The only way Trump can win is with widespread voter fraud. 

The only way Biden can win is with widespread voter fraud.

That's because Democratic governors have ensured there will be widespread voter fraud by affecting universal VBM through executive fiat.

It is Democrats, not Republicans, who this election cycle wrestled control away from the voters to hand it to a 6-3 Supreme Court.  They will lie in the bed they made.   

[Horus]

Probably the lamest ten minutes I've seen on TV in a while.  Dicing and splicing sound bites from Barr, delivering vague platitudes and unspecified criticisms is...as Cooper says "weak cheese."  

But...I'll humor you by asking this:  why would any candidate (Trump included) pre-commit to accepting election results before any votes have been tabulated?  Answering "let's wait and see" is pretty standard politician speak when "what if"-type questions come up

Well maybe because he has been saying at any given opportunity, that the ONLY way that he can lose the election is if there is widespread voter fraud, despite the fact that he's been consistently behind by 5-9% in the polls all year long.

So what he is saying is that IF he loses, THEN there was voter fraud and THEN he will not accept the result given that the election by definition wasn't "fair and free".

Obviously this insane authoritarianism needs to be challenged severely, but I guess you'd rather want a dictator who shares your values than live in a free democracy.

The only way Trump can win is with widespread voter fraud.  

The only way Biden can win is with widespread voter fraud.

That's because Democratic governors have ensured there will be widespread voter fraud by affecting universal VBM through executive fiat.

It is Democrats, not Republicans, who this election cycle wrestled control away from the voters to hand it to a 6-3 Supreme Court.  They will lie in the bed they made.    

That's the second QAnon level post from you just this month, and they say it's the anti-Trump people with a derangement?

He's probably right.  The public health intelligentsia doesn't want America to get better until when/if a Democrat is president.

[Del Tachi]

That's the second QAnon level post from you just this month, and they say it's the anti-Trump people with a derangement?

Too rich, man.  If you want to understand my point, consider this:  if the election outcome is close (recount territory in one or more decisive states) all it takes is one lawsuit about the admissibility of certain mail-in ballots to put the election at a 6-3 conservative SCOTUS.  If Trump ends up winning this way, it's a massive own-goal by Democrats pushing so hard for VBM (because they may have won without it.) 

This is the road we're heading down, because both sides are already litigating it.  Democrats are suing to change or nix signature verification requirements, Republicans are suing about ballot harvesting or postmark dates.  Election day isn't going to end these disputes, it will just create a class of possibly millions of votes that exist within some kind of legal limbo.  All Democrats have done (in pushing for more VBM), is overridden the popular will of the voters and asked courts to pick our next president. 

Win or lose, my only prayer is that the national result doesn't hinge on mail-in ballots from the decisive state(s).  Trump nor Biden would be able to assume office with any legitimacy in that case.     

[Horus]

That's the second QAnon level post from you just this month, and they say it's the anti-Trump people with a derangement?

Too rich, man.  If you want to understand my point, consider this:  if the election outcome is close (recount territory in one or more decisive states) all it takes is one lawsuit about the admissibility of certain mail-in ballots to put the election at a 6-3 conservative SCOTUS.  If Trump ends up winning this way, it's a massive own-goal by Democrats pushing so hard for VBM (because they may have won without it.) 

This is the road we're heading down, because both sides are already litigating it.  Democrats are suing to change or nix signature verification requirements, Republicans are suing about ballot harvesting or postmark dates.  Election day isn't going to end these disputes, it will just create a class of possibly millions of votes that exist within some kind of legal limbo.  All Democrats have done (in pushing for more VBM), is overridden the popular will of the voters and asked courts to pick our next president. 

Win or lose, my only prayer is that the national result doesn't hinge on mail-in ballots from the decisive state(s).  Trump nor Biden would be able to assume office with any legitimacy in that case.     

I guess we'll just have to stand back and standby to see how this all turns out then, huh?

[Meclazine for Israel]

Not sure whether "Brilliant" and "Anderson Cooper" should be used in the same sentence.