The Republican party needs to be burnt to the ground

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1309538957156257793

[Trump Is A Maoist]

It's time to let old things die. The GOP. The Democratic Party. The filibuster. Citizens United. Let it all die.

[The Night Owlditor]

Beyond deplorable, but what do you expect from the "pro-life" party of "traditional family values" and "Christian morality."

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Kyle Rittenhouse is almost certainly going to go on to do great things when he gets elected to office.

[freepcrusher]

the question is - what is the best comparison to this country? Hungary? South America? The Irish Troubles? 1917? Maybe we are our own special country with special circumstances

[DrScholl]

The GOP is just a more expensive version of a common street gang. No values and extremely violent.

[Fuzzy Bear]

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This from a man who appears to have gone from denying that the BLM and Antifa protests included wanton violence to defending the violence, to outright projection and gaslighting.

This post is, of course, more nonsense from DrScholl, but it begs questions:

1.  Is Kyle Rittenhouse presumed innocent?  Does he not deserve the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a Court?  

2.  Does Kyle Rittenhouse not have the right to a fair trial?  

3.  Does Kyle Rittenhouse not, on its face, have valid defenses for his actions that deserve to be heard and honestly evaluated for their legal sufficiency at trial?

4.  What right do business owners have to defend their property against large groups of people who have the unquestionable intent of destroying their property, especially when that property is a business that provides the financial support for that person and their family?  Do those rights include allowing persons to work on their behalf to use force to protect their property from violence and destruction?  

5.  What rights to vandals have to not experience physical resistance to their attempts to vandalize and destroy property that is business property providing the economic sustenance of business owners and their families?  What lawful actions can be taken to quell disturbances once they start?  Are vandalous mobs to be allowed to wreck their damage with the only possible remedy being to film them and arrest them later?

I have not made up my mind about what I privately think about Kyle Rittenhouse's guilt and innocence.  His case is complicated, and I am willing to allow a trial to decide this.  I'm not going to treat him as a hero, but I'm not going to treat him as a murderer, either; the latter is far from proven, and it's being shrieked in no small measure because the Left wishes to preclude all resistance (including lawful and legitimate resistance) to their criminal violence.  

[DrScholl]

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This from a man who appears to have gone from denying that the BLM and Antifa protests included wanton violence to defending the violence, to outright projection and gaslighting.

This post is, of course, more nonsense from DrScholl, but it begs questions:

1.  Is Kyle Rittenhouse presumed innocent?  Does he not deserve the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a Court?  

2.  Does Kyle Rittenhouse not have the right to a fair trial?  

3.  Does Kyle Rittenhouse not, on its face, have valid defenses for his actions that deserve to be heard and honestly evaluated for their legal sufficiency at trial?

4.  What right do business owners have to defend their property against large groups of people who have the unquestionable intent of destroying their property, especially when that property is a business that provides the financial support for that person and their family?  Do those rights include allowing persons to work on their behalf to use force to protect their property from violence and destruction?  

5.  What rights to vandals have to not experience physical resistance to their attempts to vandalize and destroy property that is business property providing the economic sustenance of business owners and their families?  What lawful actions can be taken to quell disturbances once they start?  Are vandalous mobs to be allowed to wreck their damage with the only possible remedy being to film them and arrest them later?

I have not made up my mind about what I privately think about Kyle Rittenhouse's guilt and innocence.  His case is complicated, and I am willing to allow a trial to decide this.  I'm not going to treat him as a hero, but I'm not going to treat him as a murderer, either; the latter is far from proven, and it's being shrieked in no small measure because the Left wishes to preclude all resistance (including lawful and legitimate resistance) to their criminal violence.  

Who asked you anything? You believe you are a lot more important than you really are. I don't care about your questions, because my opinion is that Kyle Rittenhouse deserves to rot in some filthy cell and if that hurts your feelings that is just too bad.

[lfromnj]

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This from a man who appears to have gone from denying that the BLM and Antifa protests included wanton violence to defending the violence, to outright projection and gaslighting.

This post is, of course, more nonsense from DrScholl, but it begs questions:

1.  Is Kyle Rittenhouse presumed innocent?  Does he not deserve the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a Court?  

2.  Does Kyle Rittenhouse not have the right to a fair trial?  

3.  Does Kyle Rittenhouse not, on its face, have valid defenses for his actions that deserve to be heard and honestly evaluated for their legal sufficiency at trial?

4.  What right do business owners have to defend their property against large groups of people who have the unquestionable intent of destroying their property, especially when that property is a business that provides the financial support for that person and their family?  Do those rights include allowing persons to work on their behalf to use force to protect their property from violence and destruction?  

5.  What rights to vandals have to not experience physical resistance to their attempts to vandalize and destroy property that is business property providing the economic sustenance of business owners and their families?  What lawful actions can be taken to quell disturbances once they start?  Are vandalous mobs to be allowed to wreck their damage with the only possible remedy being to film them and arrest them later?

I have not made up my mind about what I privately think about Kyle Rittenhouse's guilt and innocence.  His case is complicated, and I am willing to allow a trial to decide this.  I'm not going to treat him as a hero, but I'm not going to treat him as a murderer, either; the latter is far from proven, and it's being shrieked in no small measure because the Left wishes to preclude all resistance (including lawful and legitimate resistance) to their criminal violence.  

Who asked you anything? You believe you are a lot more important than you really are. I don't care about your questions, because my opinion is that Kyle Rittenhouse deserves to rot in some filthy cell and if that hurts your feelings that is just too bad.

Judging by the pic and location he is probably going to be pardoned with the next GOP governor even if you believe he somehow gets convicted.

[Fuzzy Bear]

This from a man who appears to have gone from denying that the BLM and Antifa protests included wanton violence to defending the violence, to outright projection and gaslighting.

This post is, of course, more nonsense from DrScholl, but it begs questions:

1.  Is Kyle Rittenhouse presumed innocent?  Does he not deserve the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a Court?  

2.  Does Kyle Rittenhouse not have the right to a fair trial?  

3.  Does Kyle Rittenhouse not, on its face, have valid defenses for his actions that deserve to be heard and honestly evaluated for their legal sufficiency at trial?

4.  What right do business owners have to defend their property against large groups of people who have the unquestionable intent of destroying their property, especially when that property is a business that provides the financial support for that person and their family?  Do those rights include allowing persons to work on their behalf to use force to protect their property from violence and destruction?  

5.  What rights to vandals have to not experience physical resistance to their attempts to vandalize and destroy property that is business property providing the economic sustenance of business owners and their families?  What lawful actions can be taken to quell disturbances once they start?  Are vandalous mobs to be allowed to wreck their damage with the only possible remedy being to film them and arrest them later?

I have not made up my mind about what I privately think about Kyle Rittenhouse's guilt and innocence.  His case is complicated, and I am willing to allow a trial to decide this.  I'm not going to treat him as a hero, but I'm not going to treat him as a murderer, either; the latter is far from proven, and it's being shrieked in no small measure because the Left wishes to preclude all resistance (including lawful and legitimate resistance) to their criminal violence.  

Who asked you anything? You believe you are a lot more important than you really are. I don't care about your questions, because my opinion is that Kyle Rittenhouse deserves to rot in some filthy cell and if that hurts your feelings that is just too bad.

How Larynzo Johnson, the person that allegedly shot two (2) police officers in Louisville?  Does he deserve to rot in jail?  I mean he hasn't been tried yet, but neither has Kyle Rittenhouse.  I'm willing to wait for his trial, but you won't wait for Rittenhouse, so I'll ask you to weigh in now on Larynzo Johnson?  Should he rot in jail?

Now if you wish Larynzo Johnson a fair trial, I'm all for that.  Just explain why you oppose a fair trial for Kyle Rittenhouse.

[DrScholl]

Judging by the pic and location he is probably going to be pardoned with the next GOP governor even if you believe he somehow gets convicted.

Which won't really matter in the long run because he'll just do the same thing to some other people, except he won't be able to talk his way out of it. He will be a repeat offender if he is allowed to roam the streets.

How Larynzo Johnson, the person that allegedly shot two (2) police officers in Louisville?  Does he deserve to rot in jail?  I mean he hasn't been tried yet, but neither has Kyle Rittenhouse.  I'm willing to wait for his trial, but you won't wait for Rittenhouse, so I'll ask you to weigh in now on Larynzo Johnson?  Should he rot in jail?

Now if you wish Larynzo Johnson a fair trial, I'm all for that.  Just explain why you oppose a fair trial for Kyle Rittenhouse.

Do you see me defending that person because he is black? No. That's the difference between me and conservatives. I don't defend murder or other criminal acts just because the person is the same race as me or for political reasons.

[Wakie77]

Just to review the world according to Republicans.

If someone breaks down your door and you fire 1 shot from your lawfully owned and registered gun you have given them license to kill your sleeping girlfriend.

But a minor who steals a gun, crosses state lines, and shoots people in the street is a hero.

Oh wait .... I forgot the critical difference here.  First case, the person is black and the second they are white.

[DrScholl]

It should also be noted that Michelle Malkin has defended a cop convicted of raping dozens of black women and wants his conviction overturned. This man was convicted by an all white jury and there is no doubt about his guilt. His victims don't matter to conservatives though.

[GP270watch]

Somebody had to create this monster.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Also whether you think Kyle Rittenhouse is innocent or guilty has nothing to do with whether he or especially his mom should be celebrated because they shouldn’t. He crossed state lines illegal with an assault rifle to go to an area he knew was a political hotbed deliberately to cause trouble. Even if he ends being proven innocent it doesn’t change the fact that his actions in the buildup go against everything “responsible gun owners” are supposed to do according to the NRA and pro-gun people. So to celebrate his actions is seriously telling on yourself

[7,052,770]

As stated many times, "presumption of innocence" applies to the legal system, not to private individuals. As I'm not a judge or juror in his trial, I am under no obligation to presume his innocence in my personal opinion of him.

Now if something comes out that exonerates him and I still continue to believe he's guilty, that would make me a moron (ala Trump & the Central Park 5). But short of that, there's nothing wrong with people who affect nothing formulating an opinion, just like we do on everything else.

[OBD]

If Kyle Rittenhouse was black, shooting white protesters, y'all blue avatars would be calling for the death penalty.

Oh wait. He'd already be dead.

[Wrong about 2024 Ghost]

the question is - what is the best comparison to this country? Hungary? South America? The Irish Troubles? 1917? Maybe we are our own special country with special circumstances

I think the Soviet Union/Russia from the 1980-early 2000s comes closest, but it's obviously not an exact parallel.

The biggest points of similarity are a geographically large, high-population, mostly-unified federated-state superpower that formerly acted as the leader of a group of allied states undergoing a massive loss of prestige and influence along with a crisis of both legitimacy and effectiveness by the national government.   The potential for secession, partial loss of superpower status, internal tensions leading to terrorism and guerilla warfare, increased corruption, and some level of collapse (including collapse of the rule of law) are also present. Plus, there's Donald Trump and his traitorous Republican cronies pretty openly aspiring to implement the current Russian model of government here. (With collapse potentially triggered by a coup attempt.)

The biggest differences would be that Soviet and American government models were different. Pre-collapse the Soviet Union was a one-party state with trappings of representative government, while the United States has historically been a two-party (but not multi-party) representative democracy. Soviet and Russian ethnic tensions and violence can be compared to our own racial issues, but aren't really the same. And our quasi-religious tension from the politically active "Christian" right doesn't seem to have an exact parallel, although post-collapse Russia has found it useful to move to the right on social issues. The general shape of our left vs. right political has more in common with revolutionary Russia (Whites vs. Reds) in the early 20th more than anything in the Soviet and post-Soviet collapse, I think.

(And yes, the modern Republican party needs to be burned to the ground and then treated like the memetic equivalent of toxic waste.)

[lfromnj]

If Kyle Rittenhouse was black, shooting white protesters, y'all blue avatars would be calling for the death penalty.

Oh wait. He'd already be dead.

Kyle rittenhouse only shot white people, including one of whom was a racist shouting the n word while asking to be shot earlier in the night. Not that doing that action makes it legal really but just pointing it out. No need to make this racial lol.

[DrScholl]

If Kyle Rittenhouse was black, shooting white protesters, y'all blue avatars would be calling for the death penalty.

Oh wait. He'd already be dead.

Not if the protestors were perceived to be "the left". If that was the case they'd be calling the justice system racist for trying to put a conservative black behind bars and blaming Kamala Harris for being a DA.

[The Righteous Tip of the Abundance Spear]

It's time to let old things die.

I take it you're a fan of Trump's COVID response then?

[Don't blame me I voted for Harris]

Ah yes, the All Lives Matter, Pro-Life wing of American politics.

[SteveRogers]

This from a man who appears to have gone from denying that the BLM and Antifa protests included wanton violence to defending the violence, to outright projection and gaslighting.

This post is, of course, more nonsense from DrScholl, but it begs questions:

1.  Is Kyle Rittenhouse presumed innocent?  Does he not deserve the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a Court?  

2.  Does Kyle Rittenhouse not have the right to a fair trial?  

3.  Does Kyle Rittenhouse not, on its face, have valid defenses for his actions that deserve to be heard and honestly evaluated for their legal sufficiency at trial?

4.  What right do business owners have to defend their property against large groups of people who have the unquestionable intent of destroying their property, especially when that property is a business that provides the financial support for that person and their family?  Do those rights include allowing persons to work on their behalf to use force to protect their property from violence and destruction?  

5.  What rights to vandals have to not experience physical resistance to their attempts to vandalize and destroy property that is business property providing the economic sustenance of business owners and their families?  What lawful actions can be taken to quell disturbances once they start?  Are vandalous mobs to be allowed to wreck their damage with the only possible remedy being to film them and arrest them later?

I have not made up my mind about what I privately think about Kyle Rittenhouse's guilt and innocence.  His case is complicated, and I am willing to allow a trial to decide this.  I'm not going to treat him as a hero, but I'm not going to treat him as a murderer, either; the latter is far from proven, and it's being shrieked in no small measure because the Left wishes to preclude all resistance (including lawful and legitimate resistance) to their criminal violence.  

You can believe that Rittenhouse deserves a fair trial and that his case is not settled without literally applauding him. The GOP is doing the latter.

[Trump Is A Maoist]

It's time to let old things die.

I take it you're a fan of Trump's COVID response then?

Dule, I want you to join me. We can ban masks and bring a new order to the nation.

"Don't do this, T'Chenka. Please don't go this way..."

No, no, NO. You're still HOLDING ON! UNMASK!!!

Do you want to know the truth about COVID? Or have you always known?

[jaymichaud]

Everyone knows Michelle Malkin is batsh*t insane though lol. Not too long ago she was on twitter ranting about how she'd refuse to take the coronavirus vaccine if Bill Gates had involvement in its production because he'd microchip her.