Has Sanders' push for M4A made the public option the default Democratic position?

[Crane]

We all remember when Barack Obama's signature legislation, the ACA, was stripped of a public option by people like Joe Lieberman. But now I see many mainstream Democratic candidates, like Rev. Warnock in Georgia and Kelly in Arizona, are running with it as part of their platform. Did the push for single payer healthcare (partly as a result of the failure to secure a public option) in recent years move the window of policy in the area leftward, to where the public option is considered to be a basic expectation under Democratic governance? If so, we owe Sen. Sanders a great deal of thanks.

[KaiserDave]

Yep pretty much

[Hope For A New Era]

Definitely. We owe him a lot of credit for shifting the Overton Window back to the left. May Reaganomics (continue to) die painfully.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

We're not really making progress if Schumer opposes single payer while the Republican who had his seat 50 years ago supported.

[Blue3]

Yes.

Which was probably Sanders' intention, even if he won't admit it publicly.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Yes.

Which was probably Sanders' intention, even if he won't admit it publicly.

Sanders' intention probably was to win just after he pulled off that shocking upset in Michigan in 2016. Before that happened, you're probably right and he just wanted to move the Overton Window leftward, which he did.

[SevenEleven]

Yes.

Which was probably Sanders' intention, even if he won't admit it publicly.

Sanders' intention probably was to win just after he pulled off that shocking upset in Michigan in 2016. Before that happened, you're probably right and he just wanted to move the Overton Window leftward, which he did.

Considering what he did this year, especially after becoming the front runner (not really, but that was the narrative), I'd say he didn't ever really care about winning. He didn't even try.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Yes.

Which was probably Sanders' intention, even if he won't admit it publicly.

Sanders' intention probably was to win just after he pulled off that shocking upset in Michigan in 2016. Before that happened, you're probably right and he just wanted to move the Overton Window leftward, which he did.

Considering what he did this year, especially after becoming the front runner (not really, but that was the narrative), I'd say he didn't ever really care about winning. He didn't even try.

Really? 99% of Sanders critics would disagree.

He tried pushing Warren to run in 2016. When she said no, he ran himself, surely knowing he had no chance against Hillary Clinton until Michigan voted, and then stayed in until the last states voted. Last year, Warren announced before Sanders and instead of throwing all his weight behind her, he saw the opening to build on his momentum from the last campaign and maybe actually win this time.

[SevenEleven]

Yes.

Which was probably Sanders' intention, even if he won't admit it publicly.

Sanders' intention probably was to win just after he pulled off that shocking upset in Michigan in 2016. Before that happened, you're probably right and he just wanted to move the Overton Window leftward, which he did.

Considering what he did this year, especially after becoming the front runner (not really, but that was the narrative), I'd say he didn't ever really care about winning. He didn't even try.

Really? 99% of Sanders critics would disagree.

He tried pushing Warren to run in 2016. When she said no, he ran himself, surely knowing he had no chance against Hillary Clinton until Michigan voted, and then stayed in until the last states voted. Last year, Warren announced before Sanders and instead of throwing all his weight behind her, he saw the opening to build on his momentum from the last campaign and maybe actually win this time.

He did nothing to build on his 2016 campaign. In all respects, he performed worse and at no point made any effort to build on the previous campaign. If Sen. Sanders was trying to expand his coalition, he missed hard with me as not only a voter but political prognosticated.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Yes.

Which was probably Sanders' intention, even if he won't admit it publicly.

Sanders' intention probably was to win just after he pulled off that shocking upset in Michigan in 2016. Before that happened, you're probably right and he just wanted to move the Overton Window leftward, which he did.

Considering what he did this year, especially after becoming the front runner (not really, but that was the narrative), I'd say he didn't ever really care about winning. He didn't even try.

Really? 99% of Sanders critics would disagree.

He tried pushing Warren to run in 2016. When she said no, he ran himself, surely knowing he had no chance against Hillary Clinton until Michigan voted, and then stayed in until the last states voted. Last year, Warren announced before Sanders and instead of throwing all his weight behind her, he saw the opening to build on his momentum from the last campaign and maybe actually win this time.

He did nothing to build on his 2016 campaign. In all respects, he performed worse and at no point made any effort to build on the previous campaign. If Sen. Sanders was trying to expand his coalition, he missed hard with me as not only a voter but political prognosticated.

     Sanders had a much harder road in 2020 than in 2016, because the field was more open. He was no longer the default progressive choice and had to compete with Warren for the base that he had developed in 2016. Running in 2020 had a certain logic to it, but Sanders was not going to have an easy time improving on his 2016 performance regardless of what he did.

[S019]

We're not really making progress if Schumer opposes single payer while the Republican who had his seat 50 years ago supported.

This some serious historical revisionism, Jacob Javits was not a real Republican, he was a solid liberal who just didn't like the NY Dems.