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jimrtex
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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2020, 04:46:07 AM »

Routinely we read reports about how many states receive more in federal funding than they contribute while others have the inverse.  In many cases a state receiving more than it contributes can be explained by its housing military bases, being home to a large portion of our oil reserves, or the state falling prey to some unfortunate natural disaster.  In the case of Kentucky none of these are true.  Since 1981 Kentucky has never contributed an equal amount to what they receive.  In fact, the trend has been that we are increasingly giving them more every year.

In 1981 KY got $1.06 for every $1 they paid into the Federal government.  By 1991 it was up to $1.28.  By 2001 $1.38.  In 2021 they are expected to get $2.61 on every $1 they contribute.

So this said …. WHY ARE WE SUPPORTING THESE DEADBEATS?Huh

Even worse, why do we allow their Senator (McConnell) to brazenly abuse everyone else?

It is time to tell Kentucky enough is enough.  Pay your fair share deadbeats!!!
When these figures are calculated they attribute expenditures to:

Direct Payments to individuals such as OASDI and Medicare.

Grants to state and local governments.

Government Contracts.

Wages.

Most of federal expenditures is for Direct Payments.

There is not a large variation in direct payments since most of it is based on a formula. Utah does fare particularly poor in this category since the federal government does not payments to Mormon children.

On a tax v. payments basis, New York may fair poorly because the employment taxes paid by workers in New York goes to fund their retirement in Florida. Remember these seniors have a choice between being sent to a nursing home to die of COVID 19 under Killer Cuomo, or live out their Golden Years under the benevolent De Santis regime.

There is a huge variation in per capita payments for contracts because these are typically attributed to where a corporation is headquartered. In the case of Kentucky, the big contract is one with Humana (headquartered in Lousville) to provide healthcare to service members in the Armed Forces throughout the Southern US.

The payment goes to Louisville, but the services are rendered at military bases in Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, etc. Ironically, Humana's contract does not cover Fort Campbell.

The contracts for the other two regions are held by contractors in larger states (California and Minnesota) where their per capita effect is smaller.

Arguably all military spending should be attributed to the home state of service members. Spending on a jet engine for a pilot from Nebraska is simply paying for his equipment. It doesn't matter where GE is headquartered or where the engine is manufactured.

Defense_Income_Share = Service_Members_State/Service_Members_USA * DOD Budget

Defense_Spending_Share = Population_State/Population_USA * DOD Budget

Common Defense % = DOD/Federal Budget.

Common Defense taxes = Income_Tax * Common Defense %.

Income_Tax non defense = Income Tax - Common Defense Taxes.

Adjusted Income: Income_Tax_non_defense (for state) + Defense_Income_Share

Adjusted Expenditures: Non-defense-spending + Defense_Spending_Share
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2020, 08:32:37 AM »

When these figures are calculated they attribute expenditures to:

Let's be super clear on the message.

1- Over the last 40 years (basically Mitch McConnell's tenure in the Senate) the amount of money funneled to Kentucky has steadily increased at a remarkable rate.  From just 5% over to now 160%.  It is no coincidence.  Mitch has used his position not to help Kentucky to help itself, he has only helped it stick its hands deeper into federal coffers.

2- Kentucky holds no militarily strategic important position (such as Hawaii or the borders or the coast lines).  Kentucky doesn't have any great academic resources which drive government spending on research.  Kentucky isn't being hit by earthquakes or hurricanes.  The money they are getting is PORK.

3- If Mitch McConnell & Rand Paul's message was "hey, Kentucky is a poor state and we need help but we are equally willing to help those who help us when there are disasters" then I'd be more likely to favor allowing that river of money to flow to Appalachia.
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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2020, 10:27:54 AM »

When these figures are calculated they attribute expenditures to:

Let's be super clear on the message.

Let me be perfectly clear, since your brain fog appears to make you incapable of understanding.

When these sorts of calculations are made, they attribute federal contracts on the basis of where the HQ is. It doesn't matter that the actual services are provided in other states.

It is likely that some of the money that Humana and UPS receive from the federal government stay in Kentucky, but most is expended elsewhere.

Do you think that New Mexico fares well because of money spent on Indians and Hispanics or perhaps all the grants to Sandia relative to the small population of the state?
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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2020, 11:50:51 AM »

When these figures are calculated they attribute expenditures to:

Let's be super clear on the message.

Let me be perfectly clear, since your brain fog appears to make you incapable of understanding.

When these sorts of calculations are made, they attribute federal contracts on the basis of where the HQ is. It doesn't matter that the actual services are provided in other states.

It is likely that some of the money that Humana and UPS receive from the federal government stay in Kentucky, but most is expended elsewhere.

Do you think that New Mexico fares well because of money spent on Indians and Hispanics or perhaps all the grants to Sandia relative to the small population of the state?

So you are pretending that ONLY Kentucky has companies with government contracts.  Well that would be factually inaccurate and plain stupid.  Funny thing, you mentioned Humana and UPS.  Well UPS is HQ'd in Atlanta so that money goes to Georgia, not Kentucky.  Good try.

Rhode Island has Textron receiving a nice big amount of government cash and it has 1/4 the # of people as KY but magically they end up with a $1 for $1 ratio of dollars received and paid.

Long story short, Kentucky is basically the deadbeat uncle who eats the food and tries to boss people around while refusing to get a job.
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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2020, 01:03:58 PM »

When these figures are calculated they attribute expenditures to:

Let's be super clear on the message.

Let me be perfectly clear, since your brain fog appears to make you incapable of understanding.

When these sorts of calculations are made, they attribute federal contracts on the basis of where the HQ is. It doesn't matter that the actual services are provided in other states.

It is likely that some of the money that Humana and UPS receive from the federal government stay in Kentucky, but most is expended elsewhere.

Do you think that New Mexico fares well because of money spent on Indians and Hispanics or perhaps all the grants to Sandia relative to the small population of the state?

So you are pretending that ONLY Kentucky has companies with government contracts.  Well that would be factually inaccurate and plain stupid.  Funny thing, you mentioned Humana and UPS.  Well UPS is HQ'd in Atlanta so that money goes to Georgia, not Kentucky.  Good try.

Rhode Island has Textron receiving a nice big amount of government cash and it has 1/4 the # of people as KY but magically they end up with a $1 for $1 ratio of dollars received and paid.

Long story short, Kentucky is basically the deadbeat uncle who eats the food and tries to boss people around while refusing to get a job.
UPS Air Transport is headquartered in Louisville and that is where their government contracts show up. Bell Textron is headquartered in Fort Worth, and the contracts for helicopters will be attributed to Texas. I think a lot depends on whether they can figure out where the money is spent. Humana's really big contract for health care for military service members is dispersed.

https://stacker.com/stories/3139/biggest-recipients-federal-contracts-every-state

Lockheed Martin is a top contractor in about 10 states, Boeing and Raytheon in about a half dozen states. Raytheon is the largest contractor in Rhode Island.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_100_Contractors_of_the_U.S._federal_government

In the case of Humana, the money is actually going to doctors and nurses who are providing medical care to our service personnel. If you think they are deadbeats, I don't know what to tell you.
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