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Question: What will the GOP do?
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Confirm a new justice before the election
 
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Wait until after the election and confirm a justice only if they win
 
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Wait until after the election and confirm a justice win or lose
 
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Promise to wait after the election and not confirm if they lose, only to do it anyway if they lose
 
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« on: September 18, 2020, 09:56:40 PM »

What decision do you think they will reach? What decision is best for them politically?
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2020, 09:58:41 PM »

I think there might be a distinction between what is good for Trump and what is good for senate Republicans and McConnell
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2020, 09:58:41 PM »

Number three. Wait until the election to help boost Trump. If he wins, which seems most likely at this point, confirm a new justice. If Biden wins, push through a vote in lame duck.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2020, 09:59:25 PM »

Obviously not the 2nd option
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2020, 09:59:45 PM »

Number three. Wait until the election to help boost Trump. If he wins, which seems most likely at this point, confirm a new justice. If Biden wins, push through a vote in lame duck.

> Number three. Wait until the election to help boost Trump. If he wins, which seems most likely at this point

How is this the most likely?
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2020, 10:02:09 PM »

Number three. Wait until the election to help boost Trump. If he wins, which seems most likely at this point, confirm a new justice. If Biden wins, push through a vote in lame duck.

> Number three. Wait until the election to help boost Trump. If he wins, which seems most likely at this point

How is this the most likely?


Just a feeling. It doesn’t feel like Biden is winning. CoVid has been replaced by riots and the Supreme Court talking points.

Face it: without polls, would we even think Joe Biden has a chance?
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2020, 10:10:18 PM »

Number 3 is really the most realistic option.  With 45 days to go, they're not going to be able to get a nominee through.  How could they?   People like Collins, Gardner, McSally, and Tillis are fighting for their political lives (and this makes it tough for Ernst and Daines), and they can't allow themselves to be distracted by a confirmation event in October.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2020, 10:15:45 PM »

Wait til Lame duck session to confirm a judge. ME, CO, AZ and NC are lost anyways. Where moderate Rs are


They will hope if Trump loses it's a tied Senate, so that Casey, Manchin and Sinema join with the Rs to have a power sharing agreement.  The filibuster isnt going away in a tied Senate
 Casey, Sinema and Manchin are against UBI benefits and everyone know that the 600 not 300 checks for unemployment is a way for Pelosi to sneak in indefinite unemployment checks
 Otherwise, 300 plus food stamps and 1200 is enough to live off of.

Consumers want 600 to pay off car notes and in order to get food stamps, you cant own a car
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2020, 10:35:39 PM »

Number 3.   I think it's inevitable they confirm a Justice (Maybe that's just me being glum).  I don't see how they pass up the opportunity.   

They're kind of seeing the Federal Judiciary as their bulwark against the horrible demographic trends facing them in the country.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2020, 10:38:54 PM »

I think the confirmation may not pass. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't, but the base will turn out anyways because of Trump, so in order to mitigate their Senate losses it would be wise for the Senate GOP to not confirm anyone before the election. If they confirm someone after the election they will be seen as cheaters and "dirty tricksters," and the backlash could carry into 2022, although this is (sadly) unlikely. Murkowski has already said she will not support any nomination before January, and it is likely Mitt Romney and Susan Collins will not either. Only one more Republican will thus be needed to stop any confirmation.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2020, 10:43:16 PM »

Number three. Wait until the election to help boost Trump. If he wins, which seems most likely at this point, confirm a new justice. If Biden wins, push through a vote in lame duck.

Based on what actual evidence?
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2020, 10:49:36 PM »

Number 3.  They will confirm the justice during the lame duck session. 

1) timeline is too short to look legitimate beforehand and the repercussions too big for senators up (though it hurts them either way)

2) do vulnerable senators like McSally and Gardner want to be confirming a justice in Washington while their opponent is out talking to voters?

The irony here is if Republicans confirmed Garland they'd have legitimacy in confirming someone to fill this seat despite the timing and they'd regain control of the Court.  But now they just look like the hypocrites that they are.  This is probably not going to play well for Senate Republicans. 

I'm worried this marginally helps Trump but it probably marginally helps Democrats regain control of the Senate. 
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2020, 10:50:17 PM »

All Trump has to do is get above 50 percent and he wins reelection due to fact AZ, WI, ME 2 and NEB 2 can go R. This helps him and hurts Biden, what can Biden do with a 6-3 R CRT and a tied Senate and Sinema and Manchin votes against eliminating filibuster,  nothing really, progressively. It hurts the amnesty cause, no way the are allowing more immigrants in under an R majority
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2020, 10:51:05 PM »

waiting after is the best thing to do
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2020, 11:25:19 PM »

Apparently if Kelly beats McSally (which seems really likely right now) then he gets sworn in earlier than everyone else because it's a special election.  Then it's a 52-48 lame duck session.  I could think of a few senators who wouldn't feel comfortable confirming a justice in this short period either out of fairness issues or 2022 re-election concerns...
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2020, 11:29:12 PM »

They could just skip the hearings and confirm Cruz tomorrow
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2020, 11:46:22 PM »

Confirm a new justice before the election.

Hearings are only a norm, not a required rule. Trump could make his nomination on Monday and McConnell could call a floor vote and have the replacement confirmed by noon.

What the hell do they have to lose?
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2020, 11:49:58 PM »

Trump and the GOP's approvals go up when they win.  They went up after the Kavanaugh hearing.  They went up after impeachment.

They're going to confirm Amy Coney Barrett in the week before the election and then spend the next week on a big-time victory lap.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2020, 11:51:03 PM »

Murkowski and Romney are already a no on rushing a confirmation instead of waiting, so all that's needed is one more Republican senator to shoot the whole power grab down. Collins? Maybe.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2020, 11:52:06 PM »

Confirm a new justice before the election.

Hearings are only a norm, not a required rule. Trump could make his nomination on Monday and McConnell could call a floor vote and have the replacement confirmed by noon.

What the hell do they have to lose?

We would all lose whatever hope there is of saving this country from a free-fall to its demise à la Roman Empire.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2020, 11:52:20 PM »
« Edited: September 19, 2020, 12:01:01 AM by Horus »

Confirm a new justice before the election.

Hearings are only a norm, not a required rule. Trump could make his nomination on Monday and McConnell could call a floor vote and have the replacement confirmed by noon.

What the hell do they have to lose?

Exactly. This administration breaks almost every norm it is faced with. That's been part of Trump's appeal since Day 1. The seat will be filled in under 30 days.

It is laughable that some posters after all this time still think Trump and mcconnell will suddenly develop respect for precedent.
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2020, 12:04:23 AM »

Have we really changed since Trump appointed Conservative judges, no we havent. Conservatives have not took us back to segregationist past, McConnell already said that Trump's nominee will be confirmed
 
This cements the conservative majority,  even if Biden is elected it will be tie in the Senate and in a tie Senate we still have Simema and Manchin whom have confirmed most of Trump judges.
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2020, 12:10:22 AM »

I would do option 3 or 4 if I was McConnell, but probably option 1.
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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2020, 12:11:25 AM »

Number one if they can pull it, but I’m not sure they have the votes. Murkowski and Romney I don’t think would vote for a rushed nominee. The ideal for Collins/Gardner/McSally is this never happening, but if they are really forced to pick I guess it depends entirely on what they want to do with their post-senate careers.
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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2020, 12:15:17 AM »
« Edited: September 19, 2020, 12:18:42 AM by EastOfEden »

Number three. Wait until the election to help boost Trump. If he wins, which seems most likely at this point, confirm a new justice. If Biden wins, push through a vote in lame duck.

> Number three. Wait until the election to help boost Trump. If he wins, which seems most likely at this point

How is this the most likely?


Just a feeling. It doesn’t feel like Biden is winning. CoVid has been replaced by riots and the Supreme Court talking points.

Face it: without polls, would we even think Joe Biden has a chance?

Face it: without polls, would any of us have thought Donald Trump had a chance in 2016?

Feelings do not reflect reality. This is why we have polls.
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