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« on: September 16, 2020, 12:29:55 PM »

http://www.claimscon.org/millennial-study/

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In perhaps one of the most disturbing revelations of this survey, 11 percent of U.S. Millennial and Gen Z respondents believe Jews caused the Holocaust.

The findings were more disturbing in New York where an astounding 19 percent of respondents felt Jews caused the Holocaust; followed by 16 percent in Louisiana, Tennessee, and Montana and 15 percent in Arizona, Connecticut, Georgia, Nevada and New Mexico.
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2020, 12:33:22 PM »

Republicans advocated for cutting funding for public education. Et voila.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2020, 12:35:53 PM »

Not surprising that people who came of age in the time of #VeryFinePeople might have been influenced in such a way.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2020, 12:45:00 PM »

Republicans advocated for cutting funding for public education. Et voila.

There doesn't seem to be a correlation here though. New York fared the worst on all questions surveyed, while the states that don't even mandate Holocaust education ironically fared the best
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2020, 01:02:42 PM »

Earlier this year a survey found that 16% of Italians are Holocaust deniers.

The world is screwed.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2020, 01:18:36 PM »

Earlier this year a survey found that 16% of Italians are Holocaust deniers.

The world is screwed.
America: "At least more of our young people believe the Holocaust was real than in Italy."
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2020, 01:19:44 PM »

11% of the population will believe anything.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2020, 01:32:10 PM »

Republicans advocated for cutting funding for public education. Et voila.

There doesn't seem to be a correlation here though. New York fared the worst on all questions surveyed, while the states that don't even mandate Holocaust education ironically fared the best
I’ve heard that a disproportionate amount of inner city black people don’t like Jews, so maybe that’s why NY’s number is higher
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2020, 01:39:25 PM »

11% of the population will believe anything.

More like 40%, also referred to as the Trump cult.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2020, 02:12:53 PM »

Republicans advocated for cutting funding for public education. Et voila.

There doesn't seem to be a correlation here though. New York fared the worst on all questions surveyed, while the states that don't even mandate Holocaust education ironically fared the best

For once, even I'll admit it's not Cuomo's fault.
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2020, 05:38:43 PM »

i don't know anyone who thinks that at all.

or if they do they've never said it, but people with weird ass views like that tend to be pretty vocal.

more lamestream media garbage to divide ppl on age lines prboably.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2020, 06:02:10 PM »

WTF is going on in New York? Isn't that the state with the largest Jewish population???

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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2020, 07:24:04 PM »
« Edited: September 16, 2020, 07:29:08 PM by Tartarus Sauce »

Seems like baseless alarmism, which I guess is a habit of this organization if the despondent tone laced throughout the editorial is any indication. This could easily be explained by the same principle driving the Lizard Man Constant.

And that's just for standard survey questions. I checked the survey wording and this result was pulled from an open ended question.

2. Who or what do you think caused the Holocaust? [OPEN ENDED AND
MULTIPLE RESPONSES ALLOWED]
Adolf Hitler 72%
The Nazis 62%
Germany 36%
World War I 13%
Jews 11%
The Great Depression 7%
The United States 6%
Israel 3%
Palestine 2%
Franklin Delano Roosevelt/FDR 1%
Other 2%
Not sure 4%

Seems pretty easy to have 11% check off the Jews out of association alone. I wouldn't bank on these results actually measuring a credible phenomenon of around 1 in 10 of those under 40 in America literally believing that the Jews perpetrated the Holocaust.

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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2020, 07:31:14 PM »

Is this because these people are ignorant?
Or, are they saying this to just be hateful (bigoted)?
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2020, 07:38:01 PM »

Certainly seems like more than 11% based off Twitter, so this reassures me. Like said above, the Lizard Man Constant probably has something to do with it.
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2020, 07:39:59 PM »

Seems pretty easy to have 11% check off the Jews out of association alone. I wouldn't bank on these results actually measuring a credible phenomenon of around 1 in 10 of those under 40 in America literally believing that the Jews perpetrated the Holocaust.

Yeah, I agree.  Any "knowledge" poll inevitably ends up with horrific results, because lots of people are dumb, or just bad at reciting facts when put on the spot by a poll.  Then you've got a ton of people who are inherently distrustful of authority, and think they sound smart by saying "yes" whenever asked a question like "Do you think the numbers for X have been exaggerated?"

And this is presumably far worse for people as young as Gen Z.  I mean, why are people surprised that an average Gen Zer doesn't know the number of people who died in the Holocaust, and can't name a concentration camp?  WTF do they know about *anything*?  (No offense to Gen Zers here.)
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2020, 09:32:08 PM »

WTF is going on in New York? Isn't that the state with the largest Jewish population???


There’s a lot of anti-semitism amongst inner city blacks in NY
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2020, 09:06:11 AM »

I wish I could say this surprised me.

That said, I also wish they had polled older generations as well so we could compare.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2020, 09:23:37 AM »

Seems pretty easy to have 11% check off the Jews out of association alone. I wouldn't bank on these results actually measuring a credible phenomenon of around 1 in 10 of those under 40 in America literally believing that the Jews perpetrated the Holocaust.

Yeah, I agree.  Any "knowledge" poll inevitably ends up with horrific results, because lots of people are dumb, or just bad at reciting facts when put on the spot by a poll.  Then you've got a ton of people who are inherently distrustful of authority, and think they sound smart by saying "yes" whenever asked a question like "Do you think the numbers for X have been exaggerated?"

And this is presumably far worse for people as young as Gen Z.  I mean, why are people surprised that an average Gen Zer doesn't know the number of people who died in the Holocaust, and can't name a concentration camp?  WTF do they know about *anything*?  (No offense to Gen Zers here.)

I suspect his is also why polls on Evolution routinely find that 60-70% of the population doesn't believe in it, yet whenever teaching young earth creationism is put up for a school board vote or the like, it fails even in conservative areas.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2020, 09:24:03 AM »

We already have a thread about what I'm pretty sure is the same poll. Perhaps they should be merged.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2020, 01:59:18 PM »

I doubt the number is that high.
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2020, 02:01:57 PM »

This is such a dumb story since the poll ONLY asked Millennials/Gen Z'ers.

If 8% of the population thinks drinking bleach cures cancer and I make a poll asking only left-handed people whether drinking bleach cures cancer, my headline is

"7% OF LEFT HANDED PEOPLE SAY DRINKING BLEACH CURES CANCER"
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2020, 02:03:09 PM »

WTF is going on in New York? Isn't that the state with the largest Jewish population???



It's a myth that living in close proximity with a group of people will make you positively predisposed to them.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2020, 03:55:25 PM »

WTF is going on in New York? Isn't that the state with the largest Jewish population???



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Data was collected in the United States and analyzed by Schoen Cooperman Research, with a representative sample of 1,000 interviews nationwide and 200 interviews in each state with adults ages 18 to 39 via landline, cell phone and online interviews.

200 is a pretty small sample. I wouldn't pay too much attention to individual states in this.
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2020, 05:25:57 PM »

When I was growing up, a classmate's grandfather came to school when we were learning about WWII/the Holocaust and showed us the number he still had tattooed on his arm.

We're at a point where there are very few people still around to provide firsthand recollection of that era. The more it becomes, "Your grandfather did this," or "Your great-grandparents were here," the more it gets consigned to two-dimensional black-and-white. (Arguably, one of the reasons the South was able to start voting Republican in the mid-20th century is that there was now enough generational distance from the Civil War that voting-age Southerners living at that time didn't hate Republicans viscerally enough not to vote for them.)
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