Hornet-Biden +6 among gay men in the US

[afleitch]

Two pages on this trash poll?

Of course. Of course there is.

[หมูเด้ง]

Two pages on this trash poll?

Of course. Of course there is.

3.

[Storr]

If they're going to conduct such a specific poll, they might as well poll gay furries while they're at it.

[cg41386]

Rich gay white men like Trump

Dave Rubin, Andy Cohen, most of the Bravo TV people

If you have a tax cut, you don't care about anything else

Um, Andy Cohen is definitely NOT a fan of Trump. Bronz, I know that this gets said to you often but - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I didn't know then. Maybe his friends like Carson Kressley, etc.

Rich white gay people care about the $$$$$. Trump has not been overtly anti-LGBTQ like Reagan and the Bushes.

Sure he has. And the people he has surrounded himself with are definitely anti-LGBTQ.

[CookieDamage]

Hornet sucks. Even Grindr is better.

[Red Wall]

Biden is going to run out of Karens if he keeps underperforming in dem heavy demos.

[Bootes Void]

Rich gay white men like Trump

Dave Rubin, Andy Cohen, most of the Bravo TV people

If you have a tax cut, you don't care about anything else

Um, Andy Cohen is definitely NOT a fan of Trump. Bronz, I know that this gets said to you often but - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I didn't know then. Maybe his friends like Carson Kressley, etc.

Rich white gay people care about the $$$$$. Trump has not been overtly anti-LGBTQ like Reagan and the Bushes.

Sure he has. And the people he has surrounded himself with are definitely anti-LGBTQ.

I have never gotten the Impression that Reagan was anti gay. he even opposed a ban on gay teachers. Also Reagan won the $$$$ money demographic way more than trump

[หมูเด้ง]

Rich gay white men like Trump

Dave Rubin, Andy Cohen, most of the Bravo TV people

If you have a tax cut, you don't care about anything else

Um, Andy Cohen is definitely NOT a fan of Trump. Bronz, I know that this gets said to you often but - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I didn't know then. Maybe his friends like Carson Kressley, etc.

Rich white gay people care about the $$$$$. Trump has not been overtly anti-LGBTQ like Reagan and the Bushes.

Sure he has. And the people he has surrounded himself with are definitely anti-LGBTQ.

I have never gotten the Impression that Reagan was anti gay. he even opposed a ban on gay teachers. Also Reagan won the $$$$ money demographic way more than trump

What about his position on austerity for AIDS research?

[CultureKing]

Rich gay white men like Trump

Dave Rubin, Andy Cohen, most of the Bravo TV people

If you have a tax cut, you don't care about anything else

Um, Andy Cohen is definitely NOT a fan of Trump. Bronz, I know that this gets said to you often but - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I didn't know then. Maybe his friends like Carson Kressley, etc.

Rich white gay people care about the $$$$$. Trump has not been overtly anti-LGBTQ like Reagan and the Bushes.

Sure he has. And the people he has surrounded himself with are definitely anti-LGBTQ.

I have never gotten the Impression that Reagan was anti gay. he even opposed a ban on gay teachers. Also Reagan won the $$$$ money demographic way more than trump

What about his position on austerity for AIDS research?

Agreed, Reagan and his administration didn't take any real action until they realized that HIV/AIDS would impact the general population.

[CultureKing]

Questions for fellow Atlas gays - who actually uses Hornet? I just realized I don't know anyone who is on it.. is it actually for right-leaning gays?

[vileplume]

Gay males are probably the least Democratic-leaning of the LGBT community, but I'd still expect a 70-30 split at least. Lesbians are probably close to African-American numbers.

Yeah in other western countries gay men (particularly white, gay men) are a reasonably favourable demographic to parties of the right (other sections of the LGBT+ community are much, much more hostile). However the GOP is far more socially conservative than its counterparts in other countries and their ties to evangelical Christianity far too strong for them too make serious inroads with this group.

Having said all of this; for all of Trump's numerous faults, he could hardly be described as a bible basher and is the least religiously fundamental GOP nominee in a long time, if ever. Thus I would not be surprised if he puts in a relatively strong performance with white gay men (who often aren't actually particularly more 'progressive' than their straight counterparts other than on sexuality based rights), at least in comparison to how poorly Republicans typically do with them. It won't be anywhere near as close as this survey suggests though.

Why evangelicals are so strongly behind him, given that he obviously doesn't care about Christianity in the slightest and so clearly shares none of their core values, is what I fail to understand.

[Bootes Void]

Rich gay white men like Trump

Dave Rubin, Andy Cohen, most of the Bravo TV people

If you have a tax cut, you don't care about anything else

Um, Andy Cohen is definitely NOT a fan of Trump. Bronz, I know that this gets said to you often but - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I didn't know then. Maybe his friends like Carson Kressley, etc.

Rich white gay people care about the $$$$$. Trump has not been overtly anti-LGBTQ like Reagan and the Bushes.

Sure he has. And the people he has surrounded himself with are definitely anti-LGBTQ.

I have never gotten the Impression that Reagan was anti gay. he even opposed a ban on gay teachers. Also Reagan won the $$$$ money demographic way more than trump

What about his position on austerity for AIDS research?

Agreed, Reagan and his administration didn't take any real action until they realized that HIV/AIDS would impact the general population.

Im not a Reagan apologist, but how do we know for sure that his early opposition to aids research was on homophobia rather than his general austerity views? It's not like the Reagan administration was supportive of any kind of social spending

[Calthrina950]

Gay males are probably the least Democratic-leaning of the LGBT community, but I'd still expect a 70-30 split at least. Lesbians are probably close to African-American numbers.

Yeah in other western countries gay men (particularly white, gay men) are a reasonably favourable demographic to parties of the right (other sections of the LGBT+ community are much, much more hostile). However the GOP is far more socially conservative than its counterparts in other countries and their ties to evangelical Christianity far too strong for them too make serious inroads with this group.

Having said all of this; for all of Trump's numerous faults, he could hardly be described as a bible basher and is the least religiously fundamental GOP nominee in a long time, if ever. Thus I would not be surprised if he puts in a relatively strong performance with white gay men (who often aren't actually particularly more 'progressive' than their straight counterparts other than on sexuality based rights), at least in comparison to how poorly Republicans typically do with them. It won't be anywhere near as close is this survey suggests though.

Why evangelicals are so strongly behind him, given that he obviously doesn't care about Christianity in the slightest and so clearly shares none of their core values, is what I fail to understand.

I still remember when Trump unfurled a "Gays for Trump" banner during his 2016 campaign. Obviously, his Administration hasn't been nearly as friendly to LGBT rights as the Obama Administration was, but Trump has never prioritized the issue and has made clear numerous times that he could care less about gay marriage. He probably had to interact with a significant number of LGBT individuals during his years in business and on television-he is from New York City, after all.

[หมูเด้ง]

Gay males are probably the least Democratic-leaning of the LGBT community, but I'd still expect a 70-30 split at least. Lesbians are probably close to African-American numbers.

Yeah in other western countries gay men (particularly white, gay men) are a reasonably favourable demographic to parties of the right (other sections of the LGBT+ community are much, much more hostile). However the GOP is far more socially conservative than its counterparts in other countries and their ties to evangelical Christianity far too strong for them too make serious inroads with this group.

Having said all of this; for all of Trump's numerous faults, he could hardly be described as a bible basher and is the least religiously fundamental GOP nominee in a long time, if ever. Thus I would not be surprised if he puts in a relatively strong performance with white gay men (who often aren't actually particularly more 'progressive' than their straight counterparts other than on sexuality based rights), at least in comparison to how poorly Republicans typically do with them. It won't be anywhere near as close is this survey suggests though.

Why evangelicals are so strongly behind him, given that he obviously doesn't care about Christianity in the slightest and so clearly shares none of their core values, is what I fail to understand.

I still remember when Trump unfurled a "Gays for Trump" banner during his 2016 campaign. Obviously, his Administration hasn't been nearly as friendly to LGBT rights as the Obama Administration was, but Trump has never prioritized the issue and has made clear numerous times that he could care less about gay marriage. He probably had to interact with a significant number of LGBT individuals during his years in business and on television-he is from New York City, after all.

Transgenders on the other hand... but he is allegedly trying to force migrants into that community.

[Calthrina950]

Gay males are probably the least Democratic-leaning of the LGBT community, but I'd still expect a 70-30 split at least. Lesbians are probably close to African-American numbers.

Yeah in other western countries gay men (particularly white, gay men) are a reasonably favourable demographic to parties of the right (other sections of the LGBT+ community are much, much more hostile). However the GOP is far more socially conservative than its counterparts in other countries and their ties to evangelical Christianity far too strong for them too make serious inroads with this group.

Having said all of this; for all of Trump's numerous faults, he could hardly be described as a bible basher and is the least religiously fundamental GOP nominee in a long time, if ever. Thus I would not be surprised if he puts in a relatively strong performance with white gay men (who often aren't actually particularly more 'progressive' than their straight counterparts other than on sexuality based rights), at least in comparison to how poorly Republicans typically do with them. It won't be anywhere near as close is this survey suggests though.

Why evangelicals are so strongly behind him, given that he obviously doesn't care about Christianity in the slightest and so clearly shares none of their core values, is what I fail to understand.

I still remember when Trump unfurled a "Gays for Trump" banner during his 2016 campaign. Obviously, his Administration hasn't been nearly as friendly to LGBT rights as the Obama Administration was, but Trump has never prioritized the issue and has made clear numerous times that he could care less about gay marriage. He probably had to interact with a significant number of LGBT individuals during his years in business and on television-he is from New York City, after all.

Transgenders on the other hand... but he is allegedly trying to force migrants into that community.

True. Now that gay marriage is the law of the land, and that debate has been settled, Republicans have moved on to transgender rights as their next "issue of concern", so to speak. But the Supreme Court's recent decision prohibiting individuals from being fired on the basis of their gender identity indicates that they are already losing that battle. I wouldn't be surprised if 10-15 years from now, that issue has been settled as well, in the LGBT community's favor.

[Brittain33]

Questions for fellow Atlas gays - who actually uses Hornet? I just realized I don't know anyone who is on it.. is it actually for right-leaning gays?

I've literally never heard of it, but I'm not on any of the apps.

[Horus]

Questions for fellow Atlas gays - who actually uses Hornet? I just realized I don't know anyone who is on it.. is it actually for right-leaning gays?

Could be. This poll was my first time ever hearing about it. I know that there was a bit of controversy over Grindr removing the ability to filter by race after George Floyd, maybe those people are now using hornet, idk

[Horus]

Rich gay white men like Trump

Dave Rubin, Andy Cohen, most of the Bravo TV people

If you have a tax cut, you don't care about anything else

Um, Andy Cohen is definitely NOT a fan of Trump. Bronz, I know that this gets said to you often but - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I didn't know then. Maybe his friends like Carson Kressley, etc.

Rich white gay people care about the $$$$$. Trump has not been overtly anti-LGBTQ like Reagan and the Bushes.

Sure he has. And the people he has surrounded himself with are definitely anti-LGBTQ.

I have never gotten the Impression that Reagan was anti gay. he even opposed a ban on gay teachers. Also Reagan won the $$$$ money demographic way more than trump

What about his position on austerity for AIDS research?

Agreed, Reagan and his administration didn't take any real action until they realized that HIV/AIDS would impact the general population.

Im not a Reagan apologist, but how do we know for sure that his early opposition to aids research was on homophobia rather than his general austerity views? It's not like the Reagan administration was supportive of any kind of social spending

I don't think Reagan was unusually homophobic for his time. But the fact that social conservatives were becoming the base of the GOP in the 1980s almost certainly played a role in his lack of action. So even if he wasn't particularly homophobic, he played to the parts of his base who were.

[Brittain33]

Rich gay white men like Trump

Dave Rubin, Andy Cohen, most of the Bravo TV people

If you have a tax cut, you don't care about anything else

Um, Andy Cohen is definitely NOT a fan of Trump. Bronz, I know that this gets said to you often but - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I didn't know then. Maybe his friends like Carson Kressley, etc.

Rich white gay people care about the $$$$$. Trump has not been overtly anti-LGBTQ like Reagan and the Bushes.

Sure he has. And the people he has surrounded himself with are definitely anti-LGBTQ.

I have never gotten the Impression that Reagan was anti gay. he even opposed a ban on gay teachers. Also Reagan won the $$$$ money demographic way more than trump

What about his position on austerity for AIDS research?

Agreed, Reagan and his administration didn't take any real action until they realized that HIV/AIDS would impact the general population.

Im not a Reagan apologist, but how do we know for sure that his early opposition to aids research was on homophobia rather than his general austerity views? It's not like the Reagan administration was supportive of any kind of social spending

Contrast his reaction to the federal government’s reaction on Legionnaire’s disease or their defense spending of course. Also, he didn’t even say the word AIDS until 1986, years after it became serious. There were plenty of things he could do without spending money but he treated it like society treated gays: embarrassing, shameful, not appropriate to talk about.

[jaymichaud]

I can't see it being too far off for white gay men tbh.

[Brittain33]

I can't see it being too far off for white gay men tbh.

White gay men vote roughly like Jewish men, so this is too high.

[NOVA Green]

It is clear that Trump will either narrowly lose or narrowly win the "Gay Male Vote in 2020"...

We have enough evidence to support the fact that Trump is actually extremely popular among Gay Men in 2020 America...

Anybody who claims that Biden will overwhelmingly win the Gay Male vote in 2020, is obviously an ignorant fool, and deserves to be called out as such....

[Rand]

Man this thread has gotten me hornet as hell.

[Adam Griffin]

Rich white gay people care about the $$$$$. Trump has not been overtly anti-LGBTQ like Reagan and the Bushes.

This is true. Most urban clusters are filled with these types, and there are plenty more who'd absolutely be voting R if not solely for the fear of one day being mounted like a trophy-kill in downtown with a broomstick you-know-where.


White gay men are probably 60/40 D. Among all gay men, I'd say 70/30. Many aspects of gay culture and/or safe-spaces are relatively devoid of conservative gays (for multiple reasons) - and many that are present will minimize or downright lie about their beliefs if questioned - which can give the impression that gay men are more monolithic than is actually the case.  

[Tender Branson]

Gay men are less important than WY is as a state for the election ...