If Kerry won Ohio but lost the NPV, would we still have an Electoral College?
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  If Kerry won Ohio but lost the NPV, would we still have an Electoral College?
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Question: John Kerry wins Ohio and the EC in 2004, but Bush still gets a NPV majority. Does the Electoral College get abolished?
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No, nothing happens at all.
 
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No, the proposed amendment dies in Congress.
 
#3
No, the proposed amendment can't get 38 states to ratify.
 
#4
Yes, but they do it through an interstate compact, not an amendment.
 
#5
Yes, by constitutional amendment.
 
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« on: September 15, 2020, 09:25:32 AM »

If we had a Democrat lose an election with a NPV plurality, followed by a Republican losing an election with a NPV majority, would there be a bipartisan effort to abolish the Electoral College?
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2020, 12:29:50 PM »

The issue would be less partisan but I doubt we'd be much different from where we are on the issue today.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2020, 01:52:06 PM »

A more interesting what-if IMO is this (using similar nominees as otl):

2000: Gore wins PV, Bush wins election (as otl)
2004: Bush wins PV, Kerry wins election (flips OH)
2008: McCain wins PV and election
2012: McCain wins PV, Obama wins election (like otl but in a close election)
2016: Obama wins PV, Trump wins election (as otl)

After 4 of the last 5 elections ending in a PV/EC split, with neither benefiting either party, would things change?
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2020, 08:11:22 PM »

The moment a Democrat wins the EC but loses the PV, you will see a surge of interest among Republicans in switching to national popular vote.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2020, 07:24:25 AM »

The moment a Democrat wins the EC but loses the PV, you will see a surge of interest among Republicans in switching to national popular vote.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2020, 08:58:58 AM »

The moment a Democrat wins the EC but loses the PV, you will see a surge of interest among Republicans in switching to national popular vote.
There will still be some institutional questions, as states have different policies about requirements for voting.

So that would be a major sticking point if higher turnout in California will end up making a major difference.
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