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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2020, 12:04:02 PM »

Del Tachi has fallen off the deep end. He's turned into a complete Trump hack. Such a shame.

TBF, I think it's more that Del Tachi has always been a complete GOP hack and because Trump has taken over the GOP, he has by extension become a Trump hack.

I don't think this is right. He opposed Chris McDaniel and voted Hillary in 2016. Something happened in the last couple years to flip him to an openly shameless hack.
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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2020, 01:27:56 PM »

Del Tachi has fallen off the deep end. He's turned into a complete Trump hack. Such a shame.

TBF, I think it's more that Del Tachi has always been a complete GOP hack and because Trump has taken over the GOP, he has by extension become a Trump hack.

I don't think this is right. He opposed Chris McDaniel and voted Hillary in 2016. Something happened in the last couple years to flip him to an openly shameless hack.

Something did very well happen.   TDS has turned the entire Democratic Party and MSM completely inane.  There's no room for an honest defense of Trump's positions or policies because his detractors consider his mere existence the existential threat of our era.   
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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2020, 01:37:44 PM »

Hyperbolic, perhaps, but believable.
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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2020, 02:03:58 PM »
« Edited: September 15, 2020, 02:31:21 PM by lfromnj »



Im not saying this is true, but if this is true would this be what people are looking for?
Trump put out a reasonable executive order that is not executive overreach and the CDC may have violated it due to government worker influence. I don't think there would be any actual intention as far as Del Tachi is going though, but there is definitely some level of resistance in most government branches and agencies besides stuff like ICE.
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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2020, 02:26:08 PM »

All of you who want to "rely on science" as the determining influence on policy  misunderstand what science is

Forgive us if we'd rather trust scientists over Trump supporters, aka anti-fact, anti-evidence, anti-logic, climate change denial, hydroxychloraquine, Dunning-Kruger cult members.

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« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2020, 02:29:31 PM »
« Edited: September 15, 2020, 02:36:33 PM by xavier110 »

He's probably right.  The public health intelligentsia doesn't want America to get better until when/if a Democrat is president.

The "he" here who's "probably right" worked for the Kremlin. Like literally worked (works?) for Russia. And is saying this. Doesn't take much smarts to understand the motivation for this

Their end goal is chaos. At this point, I don't think they even care if Trump wins (though obviously that is preferred). They would love a Biden admin that has to deal with bikers holding people at gun point and violent insurrection for the majority of his first term.
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« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2020, 10:09:14 PM »

All of you who want to "rely on science" as the determining influence on policy  misunderstand what science is
Forgive us if we'd rather trust scientists over Trump supporters, aka anti-fact, anti-evidence, anti-logic, climate change denial, hydroxychloraquine, Dunning-Kruger cult members.
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« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2020, 10:43:58 PM »

Del Tachi has fallen off the deep end. He's turned into a complete Trump hack. Such a shame.

TBF, I think it's more that Del Tachi has always been a complete GOP hack and because Trump has taken over the GOP, he has by extension become a Trump hack.

I don't think this is right. He opposed Chris McDaniel and voted Hillary in 2016. Something happened in the last couple years to flip him to an openly shameless hack.

Something did very well happen.   TDS has turned the entire Democratic Party and MSM completely inane.  There's no room for an honest defense of Trump's positions or policies because his detractors consider his mere existence the existential threat of our era.   

He is an existential threat to America. He's the most brazenly corrupt president we've ever had. If there's anything to be disturbed by, it's the way his cultish fanbase refuses to admit he's ever done anything wrong and regards any criticism, no matter how valid, as a global conspiracy against him and "Trump Derangement Syndrome."

The fact that you saw through him for years, but then willingly joined the cult several years in is sick.
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« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2020, 11:53:19 PM »

Del Tachi has fallen off the deep end. He's turned into a complete Trump hack. Such a shame.

TBF, I think it's more that Del Tachi has always been a complete GOP hack and because Trump has taken over the GOP, he has by extension become a Trump hack.

I don't think this is right. He opposed Chris McDaniel and voted Hillary in 2016. Something happened in the last couple years to flip him to an openly shameless hack.

Something did very well happen.   TDS has turned the entire Democratic Party and MSM completely inane.  There's no room for an honest defense of Trump's positions or policies because his detractors consider his mere existence the existential threat of our era.   

They're indefensible.

Donald Trump's presidency has...

1. Caused thousands of Americans to die preventable deaths from COVID-19

2. Plunged American cities into chaos with divisive rhetoric that enables and promotes racism

3. Exploded the national debt through reckless tax cuts and increased spending, including on the pandemic that he failed to control

4. Refused to respond to any natural disasters (Hurricane Maria, the wildfires in California and Oregon) because he's a petty, venal man who doesn't think he owes anything to states that did not vote for him

What has Donald Trump accomplished other than giving tax cuts to rich people?
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2020, 12:54:27 AM »

Del Tachi has fallen off the deep end. He's turned into a complete Trump hack. Such a shame.

TBF, I think it's more that Del Tachi has always been a complete GOP hack and because Trump has taken over the GOP, he has by extension become a Trump hack.

I don't think this is right. He opposed Chris McDaniel and voted Hillary in 2016. Something happened in the last couple years to flip him to an openly shameless hack.

Something did very well happen.   TDS has turned the entire Democratic Party and MSM completely inane.  There's no room for an honest defense of Trump's positions or policies because his detractors consider his mere existence the existential threat of our era.   

He is an existential threat to America. He's the most brazenly corrupt president we've ever had. If there's anything to be disturbed by, it's the way his cultish fanbase refuses to admit he's ever done anything wrong and regards any criticism, no matter how valid, as a global conspiracy against him and "Trump Derangement Syndrome."

The fact that you saw through him for years, but then willingly joined the cult several years in is sick.

Trump is an existential threat only insomuch that his 2016 campaign's unexpected success represents a break in reality for the elite citadels of DC, New York and Hollywood (Republican or Democrat).  No other president has been subject to such an onslaught of media bias or legal investigation, and yet the best case a Democratic House could come up with for impeachment was an amorphous "abuse of power" and newly-fangled "obstruction of Congress."  Just ask the Clintons, if you look hard and long enough you are bound to find something approaching scandal.
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2020, 01:11:59 AM »

Del Tachi has fallen off the deep end. He's turned into a complete Trump hack. Such a shame.

TBF, I think it's more that Del Tachi has always been a complete GOP hack and because Trump has taken over the GOP, he has by extension become a Trump hack.

I don't think this is right. He opposed Chris McDaniel and voted Hillary in 2016. Something happened in the last couple years to flip him to an openly shameless hack.

Something did very well happen.   TDS has turned the entire Democratic Party and MSM completely inane.  There's no room for an honest defense of Trump's positions or policies because his detractors consider his mere existence the existential threat of our era.   

He is an existential threat to America. He's the most brazenly corrupt president we've ever had. If there's anything to be disturbed by, it's the way his cultish fanbase refuses to admit he's ever done anything wrong and regards any criticism, no matter how valid, as a global conspiracy against him and "Trump Derangement Syndrome."

The fact that you saw through him for years, but then willingly joined the cult several years in is sick.

Trump is an existential threat only insomuch that his 2016 campaign's unexpected success represents a break in reality for the elite citadels of DC, New York and Hollywood (Republican or Democrat).  No other president has been subject to such an onslaught of media bias or legal investigation, and yet the best case a Democratic House could come up with for impeachment was an amorphous "abuse of power" and newly-fangled "obstruction of Congress."  Just ask the Clintons, if you look hard and long enough you are bound to find something approaching scandal.

So you’re ok with Presidents abusing their power? Good to know.

Also Obstruction of Congress is not “newly-fangled”, it was one of the Articles of impeachment against Nixon.
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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2020, 01:28:18 AM »
« Edited: September 16, 2020, 01:39:32 AM by Badger »

Del Tachi has fallen off the deep end. He's turned into a complete Trump hack. Such a shame.

TBF, I think it's more that Del Tachi has always been a complete GOP hack and because Trump has taken over the GOP, he has by extension become a Trump hack.

I don't think this is right. He opposed Chris McDaniel and voted Hillary in 2016. Something happened in the last couple years to flip him to an openly shameless hack.

Something did very well happen.   TDS has turned the entire Democratic Party and MSM completely inane.  There's no room for an honest defense of Trump's positions or policies because his detractors consider his mere existence the existential threat of our era.  

He is an existential threat to America. He's the most brazenly corrupt president we've ever had. If there's anything to be disturbed by, it's the way his cultish fanbase refuses to admit he's ever done anything wrong and regards any criticism, no matter how valid, as a global conspiracy against him and "Trump Derangement Syndrome."

The fact that you saw through him for years, but then willingly joined the cult several years in is sick.

Trump is an existential threat only insomuch that his 2016 campaign's unexpected success represents a break in reality for the elite citadels of DC, New York and Hollywood (Republican or Democrat).  No other president has been subject to such an onslaught of media bias or legal investigation, and yet the best case a Democratic House could come up with for impeachment was an amorphous "abuse of power" and newly-fangled "obstruction of Congress."  Just ask the Clintons, if you look hard and long enough you are bound to find something approaching scandal.

DC! New York! Hollywood! Media bias!

Throw in antifa, DT, and you'll win Trump ass kisser bingo.
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« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2020, 01:34:14 AM »

Del Tachi has fallen off the deep end. He's turned into a complete Trump hack. Such a shame.

TBF, I think it's more that Del Tachi has always been a complete GOP hack and because Trump has taken over the GOP, he has by extension become a Trump hack.

I don't think this is right. He opposed Chris McDaniel and voted Hillary in 2016. Something happened in the last couple years to flip him to an openly shameless hack.

Something did very well happen.   TDS has turned the entire Democratic Party and MSM completely inane.  There's no room for an honest defense of Trump's positions or policies because his detractors consider his mere existence the existential threat of our era.   

He is an existential threat to America. He's the most brazenly corrupt president we've ever had. If there's anything to be disturbed by, it's the way his cultish fanbase refuses to admit he's ever done anything wrong and regards any criticism, no matter how valid, as a global conspiracy against him and "Trump Derangement Syndrome."

The fact that you saw through him for years, but then willingly joined the cult several years in is sick.

Trump is an existential threat only insomuch that his 2016 campaign's unexpected success represents a break in reality for the elite citadels of DC, New York and Hollywood (Republican or Democrat).  No other president has been subject to such an onslaught of media bias or legal investigation, and yet the best case a Democratic House could come up with for impeachment was an amorphous "abuse of power" and newly-fangled "obstruction of Congress."  Just ask the Clintons, if you look hard and long enough you are bound to find something approaching scandal.

DC! New York! Hollywood! Media bias!

Throw in antifa comedy tea, and you'll win it Trump ass kisser bingo.

Also, The narrative that the media is anti-trump is one of the most stubborn right-wing myths I've ever seen. The mainstream media is neither anti-trump nor pro-trump, they're pro-sensationalism and he's a very sensationalist president. Two peas in a pod.
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« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2020, 02:30:18 AM »

Del Tachi has fallen off the deep end. He's turned into a complete Trump hack. Such a shame.

TBF, I think it's more that Del Tachi has always been a complete GOP hack and because Trump has taken over the GOP, he has by extension become a Trump hack.

I don't think this is right. He opposed Chris McDaniel and voted Hillary in 2016. Something happened in the last couple years to flip him to an openly shameless hack.

Something did very well happen.   TDS has turned the entire Democratic Party and MSM completely inane.  There's no room for an honest defense of Trump's positions or policies because his detractors consider his mere existence the existential threat of our era.   

He is an existential threat to America. He's the most brazenly corrupt president we've ever had. If there's anything to be disturbed by, it's the way his cultish fanbase refuses to admit he's ever done anything wrong and regards any criticism, no matter how valid, as a global conspiracy against him and "Trump Derangement Syndrome."

The fact that you saw through him for years, but then willingly joined the cult several years in is sick.

Trump is an existential threat only insomuch that his 2016 campaign's unexpected success represents a break in reality for the elite citadels of DC, New York and Hollywood (Republican or Democrat).  No other president has been subject to such an onslaught of media bias or legal investigation, and yet the best case a Democratic House could come up with for impeachment was an amorphous "abuse of power" and newly-fangled "obstruction of Congress."  Just ask the Clintons, if you look hard and long enough you are bound to find something approaching scandal.

DC! New York! Hollywood! Media bias!

Throw in antifa comedy tea, and you'll win it Trump ass kisser bingo.

Also, The narrative that the media is anti-trump is one of the most stubborn right-wing myths I've ever seen. The mainstream media is neither anti-trump nor pro-trump, they're pro-sensationalism and he's a very sensationalist president. Two peas in a pod.

An amazing 99% of all media evaluations of Trump in May 2020 were negative.  No campaign by Biden could match the media's 24/7 onslaught of Trump.   
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« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2020, 07:04:43 AM »


Your side has the #1 TV network giving him overwhelmingly positive coverage all day, 2 of the 4 largest newspapers, virtually all of the radio. Clearly your number is BS, as Trump KKKultists rarely, if ever, hear anything negative about Trump, further reinforcing their belief that he can do no wrong.
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« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2020, 07:09:27 AM »

Trump is an existential threat only insomuch that his 2016 campaign's unexpected success represents a break in reality for the elite citadels of DC, New York and Hollywood (Republican or Democrat).  No other president has been subject to such an onslaught of media bias or legal investigation, and yet the best case a Democratic House could come up with for impeachment was an amorphous "abuse of power" and newly-fangled "obstruction of Congress."  Just ask the Clintons, if you look hard and long enough you are bound to find something approaching scandal.

If Trump didn't want to be impeached, he shouldn't have committed the biggest* scandal in US presidential history. Every president from Washington to Obama would have been removed in an overwhelming, bipartisan fashion had if they'd asked another country to dig up dirt on their opponent, period. You're going to deny this because you have intentionally chosen to "tote water for Trump" but in your thoughts you know this is true.

Congress had no choice but to impeach and remove over that, or else the clause in the Constitution is meaningless. It's really pathetic that no Republican, save Amash and Romney, were able to break away from the Trump KKKult and do their clear and objective duty.

* - I will say that Andrew Jackson nullifying a Supreme Court decision in order to commit genocide was even more impeachable, but I don't think it really qualifies as a "scandal" contemporaneously.
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« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2020, 11:09:44 AM »

Trump is an existential threat only insomuch that his 2016 campaign's unexpected success represents a break in reality for the elite citadels of DC, New York and Hollywood (Republican or Democrat).  No other president has been subject to such an onslaught of media bias or legal investigation, and yet the best case a Democratic House could come up with for impeachment was an amorphous "abuse of power" and newly-fangled "obstruction of Congress."  Just ask the Clintons, if you look hard and long enough you are bound to find something approaching scandal.

If Trump didn't want to be impeached, he shouldn't have committed the biggest* scandal in US presidential history. Every president from Washington to Obama would have been removed in an overwhelming, bipartisan fashion had if they'd asked another country to dig up dirt on their opponent, period. You're going to deny this because you have intentionally chosen to "tote water for Trump" but in your thoughts you know this is true.

Congress had no choice but to impeach and remove over that, or else the clause in the Constitution is meaningless. It's really pathetic that no Republican, save Amash and Romney, were able to break away from the Trump KKKult and do their clear and objective duty.


* - I will say that Andrew Jackson nullifying a Supreme Court decision in order to commit genocide was even more impeachable, but I don't think it really qualifies as a "scandal" contemporaneously.

And Amash isn't even a Republican anymore.
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« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2020, 11:23:33 AM »

Del Tachi has fallen off the deep end. He's turned into a complete Trump hack. Such a shame.

TBF, I think it's more that Del Tachi has always been a complete GOP hack and because Trump has taken over the GOP, he has by extension become a Trump hack.

I don't think this is right. He opposed Chris McDaniel and voted Hillary in 2016. Something happened in the last couple years to flip him to an openly shameless hack.

Something did very well happen.   TDS has turned the entire Democratic Party and MSM completely inane.  There's no room for an honest defense of Trump's positions or policies because his detractors consider his mere existence the existential threat of our era.   

He is an existential threat to America. He's the most brazenly corrupt president we've ever had. If there's anything to be disturbed by, it's the way his cultish fanbase refuses to admit he's ever done anything wrong and regards any criticism, no matter how valid, as a global conspiracy against him and "Trump Derangement Syndrome."

The fact that you saw through him for years, but then willingly joined the cult several years in is sick.

Trump is an existential threat only insomuch that his 2016 campaign's unexpected success represents a break in reality for the elite citadels of DC, New York and Hollywood (Republican or Democrat).  No other president has been subject to such an onslaught of media bias or legal investigation, and yet the best case a Democratic House could come up with for impeachment was an amorphous "abuse of power" and newly-fangled "obstruction of Congress."  Just ask the Clintons, if you look hard and long enough you are bound to find something approaching scandal.

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« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2020, 11:30:43 AM »

I've argued with Fuzzy before about this flawed form of logic you are using.

The media isn't 100% unbiased, but it isn't even 10% as hackish for Democrats as you claim. They (mostly) just report the news. If good things happen - for example a cure for cancer / COVID / alsheimers - the coverage will be positive. If a bunch of people die in a freak accident, the coverage will be negative. This is common sense. If Trump actually does something good, they will cover it at least somewhat positively (see: middle east peace deals, "this is the night where Trump became president"). If Trump lies, abuses his power illegally or does his job so badly that people die, the coverage will be negative. Again, this is common sense.

Your POTUS is doing so many bad things that the correct unbiased and politically neutral analysis should indeed be negative. Stop framing it as partisanship.
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« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2020, 12:13:53 PM »

I've argued with Fuzzy before about this flawed form of logic you are using.

The media isn't 100% unbiased, but it isn't even 10% as hackish for Democrats as you claim. They (mostly) just report the news. If good things happen - for example a cure for cancer / COVID / alsheimers - the coverage will be positive. If a bunch of people die in a freak accident, the coverage will be negative. This is common sense. If Trump actually does something good, they will cover it at least somewhat positively (see: middle east peace deals, "this is the night where Trump became president"). If Trump lies, abuses his power illegally or does his job so badly that people die, the coverage will be negative. Again, this is common sense.

Your POTUS is doing so many bad things that the correct unbiased and politically neutral analysis should indeed be negative. Stop framing it as partisanship.

So 99% of news events are negative?  That's ridiculous and (even if it was the case) that's not what the MRC study is capturing.  445 of 474 evaluative comments about Trump on network news were negative; what is being captured goes beyond reporting "bad event XYZ happened" to "Trump is bad because XYZ".  During the same period of time, there were only 81 evaluative comments of Joe Biden.  The sheer discrepancy in the amount of coverage (even ignoring its slant) alone shows that something is amiss.       

And FYI, objective facts cannot be reported without some bias read into them.  There's no objective arrangement of facts that exist outside of the journalist's bias (liberal or conservative), and the primary role of journalism itself is to provide narrative and context to observable events.  That role is inherently biased.   
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« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2020, 12:22:19 PM »


Your side has the #1 TV network giving him overwhelmingly positive coverage all day, 2 of the 4 largest newspapers, virtually all of the radio. Clearly your number is BS, as Trump KKKultists rarely, if ever, hear anything negative about Trump, further reinforcing their belief that he can do no wrong.

The calculation represents 474 evaluative comments of Trump on network television news during May 2020.  If you're looking for confirmation that the self-appointed, Ivy-Leagued gatekeepers of our political discourse despise Trump, look no further than this metric.  The fact that the one contrarian voice on television is the top-rated cable network just demonstrates how far left the "Big Three" are from the average citizen. 
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« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2020, 12:25:06 PM »


Your side has the #1 TV network giving him overwhelmingly positive coverage all day, 2 of the 4 largest newspapers, virtually all of the radio. Clearly your number is BS, as Trump KKKultists rarely, if ever, hear anything negative about Trump, further reinforcing their belief that he can do no wrong.

The calculation represents 474 evaluative comments of Trump on network television news during May 2020.  If you're looking for confirmation that the self-appointed, Ivy-Leagued gatekeepers of our political discourse despise Trump, look no further than this metric.  The fact that the one contrarian voice on television is the top-rated cable network just demonstrates how far left the "Big Three" are from the average citizen.  

The media pretends to dislike him but massively support him when it matters the most.

Donald Trump Rode $5 Billion in Free Media to the White House

The real estate magnate got $4.96 billion in free earned media in the year leading up to the presidential election, according to data from tracking firm mediaQuant. He received $5.6 billion throughout the entirety of his campaign, more than Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Ted Cruz, Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio combined.

And the media benefitted in turn:



The elites (secretly) love him, Trump of course loves it, the real losers are the rest of us, normal Americans on the losing end of Trump's policies and the divisiveness tearing apart our nation.
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« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2020, 12:25:57 PM »

 Del Tachi is complaining about negative coverage of Trump in a thread where he appointed a clearly unqualified loyalist, who says and does unhinged things, to a very important government agency in the middle of a pandemic.. The fact you lack the self awareness to realize this is both sad but also hilarious.
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« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2020, 12:29:52 PM »

I've argued with Fuzzy before about this flawed form of logic you are using.

The media isn't 100% unbiased, but it isn't even 10% as hackish for Democrats as you claim. They (mostly) just report the news. If good things happen - for example a cure for cancer / COVID / alsheimers - the coverage will be positive. If a bunch of people die in a freak accident, the coverage will be negative. This is common sense. If Trump actually does something good, they will cover it at least somewhat positively (see: middle east peace deals, "this is the night where Trump became president"). If Trump lies, abuses his power illegally or does his job so badly that people die, the coverage will be negative. Again, this is common sense.

Your POTUS is doing so many bad things that the correct unbiased and politically neutral analysis should indeed be negative. Stop framing it as partisanship.

So 99% of news events are negative?  That's ridiculous and (even if it was the case) that's not what the MRC study is capturing.  445 of 474 evaluative comments about Trump on network news were negative; what is being captured goes beyond reporting "bad event XYZ happened" to "Trump is bad because XYZ".  During the same period of time, there were only 81 evaluative comments of Joe Biden.  The sheer discrepancy in the amount of coverage (even ignoring its slant) alone shows that something is amiss.       

And FYI, objective facts cannot be reported without some bias read into them.  There's no objective arrangement of facts that exist outside of the journalist's bias (liberal or conservative), and the primary role of journalism itself is to provide narrative and context to observable events.  That role is inherently biased.   
It's an accumulation of Trump f___ing up and lying day in and day out for four years (those are objective facts) that have shown Trump to be objectively worthy of criticism and people having a low opinion of him, newspeople included. That doesn't mean they are going to go out of their way to twist something to make Trump look bad, and it doesn't mean they aren't giving him credit in the rare times that credit is due.

"99%" (if that is the factual number) of comments on Trump are negative because he's failed the country, lied constantly and hasn't taken his job seriously enough. Anybody who is passionate about America who examines the evidence should have negative things to say about Trump.
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