S.20.3-19: Chamber Sacrosanctity Resolution (Passed)

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There is a massive difference between what I said to DTC and how Pericles treated tmth. I'll even quote what I said, with context, here:

I'm concerned with the current language. Many employers avoid paying overtime at all costs - I have a suspicion that larger companies will get around this by just hiring more people and limiting everyone to 35 hours/week; it is a more cost effective action than paying overtime.

While perhaps good for unemployment, these lost wages could cause much hardship for working families. Assuming someone is making the minimum wage ($11 federally) and working full-time, that would result in a reduction of $2,860 annually (before taxes).

The 40 hour workweek is archaic and counterproductive. The extra hour in every day is often not utilized efficiently because there are diminishing returns to work. I believe that we should reduce the workweek to 35 hours so that people have more time to be able to care for their family and pursue other life goals. People who really need to work will be able to benefit from overtime.

Except most jobs where people are absolutely working extra for the money don't allow overtime unless absolutely necessary since it costs their employer too much to pay the overtime rates. All this does it hurt actual working class people, especially those that work for an hourly rate, as it means full time workers get less hours than usual, and part time workers get cut even more so they don't risk accidentally qualifying for full time.

This will give those workers more time to work a second job then.

It defeats the purpose of this bill if people have to pick up a second job to make up for it, as they'll still be working 40+ hours per week. I imagine just about everyone would prefer doing one job at 40 hours a week as opposed to one at 30-35 and the other at 5-10 hours.

Many people will still be able to make enough at 35 hours. For the ones that do not, they can work a second job to supplement their income. People will be more productive at work/hour in a 7 hour workday because they will have more sleep and more time to pursue other interests leading to a happier life. This will also encourage entrepreneurship which has steadily gone down in the past 20 years.

Forcing people who need money the most to work two jobs. Real smart move.

Always nice to see Labor Party officeholders admit they don't care about workers.

At no point was anything I said there "abusive". But it is funny to see that DTC is still mad for no valid reason.

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Would love to hear the logic by dip for how he can agree my comment was even remotely "abusing a member of the Chamber unnecessarily and on false grounds", and how he feels it is even on the same level as what Pericles did to tmth.

Would also love to hear why DTC couldn't be bothered to submit the amendment himself.

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I will respond to you however I see fit, especially when you are proving my statement is correct.

But hey, I can go with racism and misogyny from Labor officeholders too if you'd like.

It was actually this that I had in mind when I backed the idea.

As I said before, one of the purposes of this resolution was to establish that there are proper and improper ways to interact with a legislator-- the defining feature of improper actions being those that are or can be construed as intimidating or coercive. This, I believe, fits that standard to a T, as it is literally a threat that does not pertain, in any way, to the discussion at hand or what DTC said in the thread.

EDIT: As for the reason why DTC himself didn't propse it, it was a simply mix-up. I thought he was going to, he thought I was going to, given the fact that it was late and the bill hadn't had significant discussion, I decided to pull the trigger and do it instead of waiting for him.

And what I said was in response to his own inappropriate behavior:

Forcing people who need money the most to work two jobs. Real smart move.

Always nice to see Labor Party officeholders admit they don't care about workers.

You will not respond to me in this tone. You will respond to me with calm, reasoned responses when you talk to me.

You really should consider context...