NFL fans boo kneeling athletes during moment of silence

[Hindsight was 2020]

Santander's memorable words (post) to Fuzzybear ...

Just say the n word already and get it over with.

I have reasonable that if this was 1963, Fuzzy would have been calling Dr King a communist and justifying the status quo because the riots in Birmingham proved they didn't know how to behave. Never mind they were caused by a KKK bombing campaign.

You'd be wrong and you're full of crap.

BLM is utilizing violence in the way that the 1960s Civil Rights Movement never did.  The violence, in those cases, was provided by what Mike Royko called "the worst elements of Southern Beer-Belly Manhood".

There's a reason why MLK is venerated and why BLM is not (and will not be).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long,_hot_summer_of_1967
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_riots
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_assassination_riots

[Abolish ICE]

Fuzzy, with all due respect, you kinda forfeit your credibility on law & order issues when you argue Roger Stone shouldn’t go to prison despite being convicted of witness tampering for threatening the life of a potential federal witness, as well as implicitly threatening the life of a federal judge.  To say nothing of his other convictions.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Santander's memorable words (post) to Fuzzybear ...

Just say the n word already and get it over with.

I have reasonable that if this was 1963, Fuzzy would have been calling Dr King a communist and justifying the status quo because the riots in Birmingham proved they didn't know how to behave. Never mind they were caused by a KKK bombing campaign.

You'd be wrong and you're full of crap.

BLM is utilizing violence in the way that the 1960s Civil Rights Movement never did.  The violence, in those cases, was provided by what Mike Royko called "the worst elements of Southern Beer-Belly Manhood".

There's a reason why MLK is venerated and why BLM is not (and will not be).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long,_hot_summer_of_1967
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_riots
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_assassination_riots

Most of those were terrible too, most of the good ones for example are the March on Washington, the Selma March etc

[The Dowager Mod]

If you guys could get back on topic that would be Peachy, Kay?

[Fuzzy Bear]

Fuzzy, with all due respect, you kinda forfeit your credibility on law & order issues when you argue Roger Stone shouldn’t go to prison despite being convicted of witness tampering for threatening the life of a potential federal witness, as well as implicitly threatening the life of a federal judge.  To say nothing of his other convictions.

Stone should not go to prison, no.  He's a convicted felon of a process crime.  Now he ought to quit while he's ahead.  Stone in jail would be considered a political prisoner by many, in the Don Siegelman tradition.

[Joe Kakistocracy]

So because gang-on-gang violence exists, we don’t need to be concerned about police-on-unarmed-blacks violence.  Got it.

Also, there is exactly no acceptable way to protest as a black person.  Not one.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Again so Fuzzy thinks a guy who threatened the life of a witness and a judge is somehow more peaceful then nfl players locking arms in a moment of silence

[Abolish ICE]

Fuzzy, with all due respect, you kinda forfeit your credibility on law & order issues when you argue Roger Stone shouldn’t go to prison despite being convicted of witness tampering for threatening the life of a potential federal witness, as well as implicitly threatening the life of a federal judge.  To say nothing of his other convictions.

Stone should not go to prison, no.  He's a convicted felon of a process crime.  Now he ought to quit while he's ahead.  Stone in jail would be considered a political prisoner by many, in the Don Siegelman tradition.

Threatening the life of a federal witness is not a process crime. 

[GP270watch]

Just so we’re all clear here Fuzzy is legitimately trying to argue that the guys who showed up at Michigan’s state house with guns and posters calling for the the governors murder are more peaceful then the nfl players locking arms and standing quiet for a minute

My point is not that they were more peaceful than the Kneelers.  My point is that they are INFINITELY more peaceful and more law-abiding than BLM and Antifa.  Compare the illegal activity and criminal violence in MI and compare it to Portland, Seattle, and Minnesota (for starters).

Yeah these guys were plotting a terror attack and the possible assassination of the Governor of Michigan, so maybe try again...

[Wakie77]

Has anyone been to a sporting event where some "clown" doesn't yell out during the national anthem "Let's Go --Insert Home Team--!"

[Hindsight was 2020]

Just so we’re all clear here Fuzzy is legitimately trying to argue that the guys who showed up at Michigan’s state house with guns and posters calling for the the governors murder are more peaceful then the nfl players locking arms and standing quiet for a minute

My point is not that they were more peaceful than the Kneelers.  My point is that they are INFINITELY more peaceful and more law-abiding than BLM and Antifa.  Compare the illegal activity and criminal violence in MI and compare it to Portland, Seattle, and Minnesota (for starters).

Yeah these guys were plotting a terror attack and the possible assassination of the Governor of Michigan, so maybe try again...

Woof Fuzzy’s take didn’t age well

[Trump Is A Maoist]

This thread is... something, in hindsight.

[Hindsight was 2020]

This thread is... something, in hindsight.

😬

[Damocles]

Funny how those who are all “I dOn’T wAnT pOlItIcS iN mY sPoRtS!1!!1!1!!!1” never apply this thinking to constant presence of military personnel, the flag, flyovers with F-18s, nor cheapened use of the anthem. Seems that displays of passion in favor of those in power are seen as uncontroversial, while anything even slightly “out of line” is worthy of condemnation.

Why boo these people? Because they don’t like getting shot at by police? That’s a pretty awful reason to boo them.

[Meclazine for Israel]

I don't want politics in my sports.

Simple as that.

[The Righteous Tip of the Abundance Spear]

I don't want politics in my sports.

Simple as that.

I don't want sports in my politics.

[Anni di ghiaccio]

Funny how those who are all “I dOn’T wAnT pOlItIcS iN mY sPoRtS!1!!1!1!!!1” never apply this thinking to constant presence of military personnel, the flag, flyovers with F-18s, nor cheapened use of the anthem. Seems that displays of passion in favor of those in power are seen as uncontroversial, while anything even slightly “out of line” is worthy of condemnation.

Why boo these people? Because they don’t like getting shot at by police? That’s a pretty awful reason to boo them.

Yep. I'm supposed to worship the military, pay for their endless vacations, and buy "Salute to Service" crap. Yet black people not wanting to get shot is "too political". My ass.

[SteveRogers]

I don't want politics in my sports.

Simple as that.

So do you have the same gut reaction to football players who put pink ribbons on their uniforms to raise awareness of breast cancer? Do you boo them? No? Huh, weird.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Just so we’re all clear here Fuzzy is legitimately trying to argue that the guys who showed up at Michigan’s state house with guns and posters calling for the the governors murder are more peaceful then the nfl players locking arms and standing quiet for a minute

My point is not that they were more peaceful than the Kneelers.  My point is that they are INFINITELY more peaceful and more law-abiding than BLM and Antifa.  Compare the illegal activity and criminal violence in MI and compare it to Portland, Seattle, and Minnesota (for starters).

Yeah these guys were plotting a terror attack and the possible assassination of the Governor of Michigan, so maybe try again...

I condemn this right wing group of domestic terrorists (Wolverine Watchmen) and call for their prosecution.  Unequivocally. 

And they are being prosecuted by the DOJ led by William Barr.  BLM and Antifa criminals aren't being prosecuted by local prosecutors as they should be in many cities. 

But there was not the rioting, looting, and burning down of buildings on mass scale in Michigan that have occurred in city after city.  They were a fringe group of anarchists (Wolverine Watchmen).  (And, it should be mentioned, an anti-Trump group of anarchists.)  Most of the protesters in Michigan WERE peaceful protesters.  Angry protesters, yes, but property was not destroyed and those who violated the law at those events were (as they should have been) promptly arrested.  And, no, the entire protest in MI was not organized and sponsored by the Wolverine Watchmen.

Whitmer won't condemn BLM and Antifa for rioting, and this is to her shame.  Conservatives like me condemn and call for the prosecution of these people.  Leftists like you wish BLM and Antifa to avoid all prosecution and cheer as they harass ordinary people dining at restaurants.  After all, the diners at these outdoor restaurants who are bullied and harassed by BLM and Antifa are all racists who deserve their BLM and Antifa-provided threats and violence, right?  What Whitmer DOES do is continue to lie about how Donald Trump doesn't condemn White Supremacists.  That's a lie that's been repeated.  Personally I find no better condemnation of a group than prosecuting them for their crimes.  That's something Whitmer (and others) won't do for BLM and Antifa crimes, which are more numerous  Stopping the lying about Donald Trump (who has condemned White Supremacy and such on multiple occasions) would be some evidence of decency on Whitmer's part and would actually be unifying, but we can't have that I suppose.

A group of domestic terrorists were investigated, charged, and are now being prosecuted.  Promptly, and after a thorough investigation.  That's a good thing.  Mobs of BLM and Antifa criminals in numerous cities burning buildings, harassing and threats.  They are rarely arrested and prosecutors in multiple cities have indicated that they will not file charges for protest-related riots.  That's a betrayal of decent people of all races, creeds, colors, and ideologies.  BLM and Antifa criminality is what it is, and it goes on, condoned by many here.  That's a fact.

[Santander]

An outspoken white athlete would just be seen as a "character", at worst. An outspoken black athlete is a thug and agitator who needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.

[Former President tack50]

Funny how those who are all “I dOn’T wAnT pOlItIcS iN mY sPoRtS!1!!1!1!!!1” never apply this thinking to constant presence of military personnel, the flag, flyovers with F-18s, nor cheapened use of the anthem. Seems that displays of passion in favor of those in power are seen as uncontroversial, while anything even slightly “out of line” is worthy of condemnation.

To be honest, all of those should be removed from American sports too?

Like I can't imagine a standard soccer match here being performed with military personnel and flyovers from planes.

Like here you never get military stuff and even the national anthem is only played on the finals of the national cup; not on regular matches. And in fact the national anthem gets booed any time FC Barcelona, Athletic Bilbao or any other Catalan/Basque team makes it to the finals for obvious reasons. Bonus if the final is between 2 such teams, like in fact will happen this year (Bilbao vs Real Sociedad) or like it happened in 2016 (Barcelona vs Alavés)

And I actually do consider myself part of the "No politics in sports" crowd. But indeed sports should be reduced to just well, sports.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Funny how those who are all “I dOn’T wAnT pOlItIcS iN mY sPoRtS!1!!1!1!!!1” never apply this thinking to constant presence of military personnel, the flag, flyovers with F-18s, nor cheapened use of the anthem. Seems that displays of passion in favor of those in power are seen as uncontroversial, while anything even slightly “out of line” is worthy of condemnation.

To be honest, all of those should be removed from American sports too?

Like I can't imagine a standard soccer match here being performed with military personnel and flyovers from planes.

Like here you never get military stuff and even the national anthem is only played on the finals of the national cup; not on regular matches. And in fact the national anthem gets booed any time FC Barcelona, Athletic Bilbao or any other Catalan/Basque team makes it to the finals for obvious reasons. Bonus if the final is between 2 such teams, like in fact will happen this year (Bilbao vs Real Sociedad) or like it happened in 2016 (Barcelona vs Alavés)

And I actually do consider myself part of the "No politics in sports" crowd. But indeed sports should be reduced to just well, sports.

In truth, I'd be fine with this.