NFL fans boo kneeling athletes during moment of silence

[Ferguson97]

The NFL players support BLM.  They earned their boos. 

Just admit you hate black people already.

If you were living in the 1960s, you'd be criticizing MLK, Rosa Parks, and every civil rights activist.

What sort of protests would I approve of?

Protests where all obey the law, and when illegal activity is immediately quenched by the police.  Where police are not standing down and where the bad actors in the crowd get that message BEFORE the trouble.

“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

Maybe you should add that quote to your signature, since you've decided that MLK is that bar that all those uppity ungrateful looters should reach.

Just how, exactly, were BLM doing that?

There is a difference between Civil Disobedience and criminal violence.  Rosa Parks was breaking an unjust law.  Those who sat in at lunch counters were breaking unjust laws.  What they were NOT doing was depriving OTHERS of their Constitutional Rights.

The folks at Atilis Gym today, though not for as crucial a cause, are resisting the unjust laws of New Jersey.  You may not agree with them, but they have not deprived a soul of a single Constitutional Right.

BLM and Antifa break JUST laws daily.  They destroy people's property.  They bully and harass people and threaten them with violence.  They violently act out on other people.  They burn buildings.  That's not breaking unjust laws; that's breaking just laws; things that simply cannot be legal in a civilized society.

Try again.

I'm talking specifically about the NFL protesters kneeling.

How can you possibly take issue with this? It's about as peaceful as you can get.

You've decided that BLM is "violent", so therefor anyone pledging their support over the movement is equivalent to inciting violence and not worth hearing out.

You're going to find an excuse to criticize protesters no matter what, because you do not agree that police brutality is a problem or that racism is prevalent on our society. 

[Fuzzy Bear]

The NFL players support BLM.  They earned their boos. 

Just admit you hate black people already.

If you were living in the 1960s, you'd be criticizing MLK, Rosa Parks, and every civil rights activist.

What sort of protests would I approve of?

Protests where all obey the law, and when illegal activity is immediately quenched by the police.  Where police are not standing down and where the bad actors in the crowd get that message BEFORE the trouble.

“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

Maybe you should add that quote to your signature, since you've decided that MLK is that bar that all those uppity ungrateful looters should reach.

Just how, exactly, were BLM doing that?

There is a difference between Civil Disobedience and criminal violence.  Rosa Parks was breaking an unjust law.  Those who sat in at lunch counters were breaking unjust laws.  What they were NOT doing was depriving OTHERS of their Constitutional Rights.

The folks at Atilis Gym today, though not for as crucial a cause, are resisting the unjust laws of New Jersey.  You may not agree with them, but they have not deprived a soul of a single Constitutional Right.

BLM and Antifa break JUST laws daily.  They destroy people's property.  They bully and harass people and threaten them with violence.  They violently act out on other people.  They burn buildings.  That's not breaking unjust laws; that's breaking just laws; things that simply cannot be legal in a civilized society.

Try again.

I'm talking specifically about the NFL protesters kneeling.

How can you possibly take issue with this? It's about as peaceful as you can get.

You've decided that BLM is "violent", so therefor anyone pledging their support over the movement is equivalent to inciting violence and not worth hearing out.

You're going to find an excuse to criticize protesters no matter what, because you do not agree that police brutality is a problem or that racism is prevalent on our society. 

I take issue with the NFL players failing to disavow BLM.

I don't have problems with peaceful, lawful protesters.  I have a problem with violent riots with looting and arson.  I have a problem with people who deny that they're happening when they're plainly happening.

I've discussed my beliefs on criminal justice and police brutality.  The problem with police brutality and abuses is nowhere near the problems that many black citizens of our cities (and even some suburbs) face with criminal gang violence.  Of course racism is a problem, but the idea that Americans are inherently racist is nonsense, and the narrative being spread today is false, toxic, and ought to be rejected.

I'm not going to allow people to present BLM as beneficial or benign.  They are not, and the same goes for Antifa.

[Fuzzy Bear]

The NFL players support BLM.  They earned their boos.  

Just admit you hate black people already.

If you were living in the 1960s, you'd be criticizing MLK, Rosa Parks, and every civil rights activist.

What sort of protests would I approve of?

Protests where all obey the law, and when illegal activity is immediately quenched by the police.  Where police are not standing down and where the bad actors in the crowd get that message BEFORE the trouble.

“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

Maybe you should add that quote to your signature, since you've decided that MLK is that bar that all those uppity ungrateful looters should reach.

Just how, exactly, were BLM doing that?

There is a difference between Civil Disobedience and criminal violence.  Rosa Parks was breaking an unjust law.  Those who sat in at lunch counters were breaking unjust laws.  What they were NOT doing was depriving OTHERS of their Constitutional Rights.

"Having to watch a moment of silence during my sportsball game is a violation of my Constitutional rights!"

The folks at Atilis Gym today, though not for as crucial a cause, are resisting the unjust laws of New Jersey.  You may not agree with them, but they have not deprived a soul of a single Constitutional Right.

https://twitter.com/ClaireGForNJRep/status/1302466961973170179

No mask or social distancing in sight. Pretty sure infecting your peers with a life-threatening disease that has almost killed 200,000 people constitutes a violation of the whole "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" thing.

Nonsense, cuddlebuns.

Take the rioters and looters of BLM to task.  After that, go ahead and we'll get back to you on Atilis Gym.

[The Righteous Tip of the Abundance Spear]

If you play a sport like football, don't act shocked when your impassioned plea for equality fails to resonate with the mouth-breathers in the stands.

[Ferguson97]

The NFL players support BLM.  They earned their boos. 

Just admit you hate black people already.

If you were living in the 1960s, you'd be criticizing MLK, Rosa Parks, and every civil rights activist.

What sort of protests would I approve of?

Protests where all obey the law, and when illegal activity is immediately quenched by the police.  Where police are not standing down and where the bad actors in the crowd get that message BEFORE the trouble.

“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

Maybe you should add that quote to your signature, since you've decided that MLK is that bar that all those uppity ungrateful looters should reach.

Just how, exactly, were BLM doing that?

There is a difference between Civil Disobedience and criminal violence.  Rosa Parks was breaking an unjust law.  Those who sat in at lunch counters were breaking unjust laws.  What they were NOT doing was depriving OTHERS of their Constitutional Rights.

The folks at Atilis Gym today, though not for as crucial a cause, are resisting the unjust laws of New Jersey.  You may not agree with them, but they have not deprived a soul of a single Constitutional Right.

BLM and Antifa break JUST laws daily.  They destroy people's property.  They bully and harass people and threaten them with violence.  They violently act out on other people.  They burn buildings.  That's not breaking unjust laws; that's breaking just laws; things that simply cannot be legal in a civilized society.

Try again.

I'm talking specifically about the NFL protesters kneeling.

How can you possibly take issue with this? It's about as peaceful as you can get.

You've decided that BLM is "violent", so therefor anyone pledging their support over the movement is equivalent to inciting violence and not worth hearing out.

You're going to find an excuse to criticize protesters no matter what, because you do not agree that police brutality is a problem or that racism is prevalent on our society. 

I take issue with the NFL players failing to disavow BLM.

I don't have problems with peaceful, lawful protesters.  I have a problem with violent riots with looting and arson.  I have a problem with people who deny that they're happening when they're plainly happening.

I've discussed my beliefs on criminal justice and police brutality.  The problem with police brutality and abuses is nowhere near the problems that many black citizens of our cities (and even some suburbs) face with criminal gang violence.  Of course racism is a problem, but the idea that Americans are inherently racist is nonsense, and the narrative being spread today is false, toxic, and ought to be rejected.

I'm not going to allow people to present BLM as beneficial or benign.  They are not, and the same goes for Antifa.

Why do they need to disavow?

[SevenEleven]

Fuzzy you really should go to an inner-city minority area and do a survey. Ask residents if they're more scared of gang members or the police on a day-to-day basis.

[MRS DONNA SHALALA]

Fuzzy you really should go to an inner-city minority area and do a survey. Ask residents if they're more scared of gang members or the police on a day-to-day basis.

He'd brown his breeches the second he went north of 96th Street.

[ProudModerate2]

Why do they need to disavow?

Oh God.
Is Fuzzy back to his "they/he/she must disavow" bs game?

[Badger]

The NFL players support BLM.  They earned their boos. 

Just admit you hate black people already.

If you were living in the 1960s, you'd be criticizing MLK, Rosa Parks, and every civil rights activist.

What sort of protests would I approve of?

Protests where all obey the law, and when illegal activity is immediately quenched by the police.  Where police are not standing down and where the bad actors in the crowd get that message BEFORE the trouble.

“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

Maybe you should add that quote to your signature, since you've decided that MLK is that bar that all those uppity ungrateful looters should reach.

Fuzzy Bear did live in the 1960s and in 1972 he supported George McGovern. He also opposes DeSantis on felon voting

 

So what? He still an insufferable broken record with absolute derangement on the subjects of trump and BLM / antifa.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Fuzzy you really should go to an inner-city minority area and do a survey. Ask residents if they're more scared of gang members or the police on a day-to-day basis.

[img=https://www.newsweek.com/81-black-americans-dont-want-less-police-presence-despite-protestssome-want-more-cops-poll-1523093]http://If you were right, these poll results wouldn't be happening/img]

A Gallup poll conducted from June 23 to July 6 surveying more than 36,000 U.S. adults found that 61 percent of Black Americans said they'd like police to spend the same amount of time in their community, while 20 percent answered they'd like to see more police, totaling 81 percent. Just 19 percent of those polled said they wanted police to spend less time in their area.

The narrative that there is an epidemic of shootings of unarmed black men by police is just not true:

An elderly resident in the Mount Hope neighborhood of the Bronx once described to me her fear of entering her building lobby, since it was so often occupied by trespassing youth hanging out and selling drugs. The only time she felt safe was when law enforcement was around: As long as she saw the police, she told me, everything is OK. You can come down and get your mail and talk to decent people.

It is the criminal gangs and drug dealers that are profiting the most over violence.  Their violence enforces "turf" and their ability to continue their illegal money-making activities.  The violence exists to enforce the interests of the gangs. 

https://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Survey-Analysis/Measuring-the-Extent-of-Gang-Problems

The total number of gang homicides reported by respondents in the NYGS sample averaged nearly 2,000 annually from 2007 to 2012. During roughly the same time period (2007 to 2011), the FBI estimated, on average, more than 15,500 homicides across the United States (www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1). These estimates suggest that gang-related homicides typically accounted for around 13 percent of all homicides annually.

Where is the NFL on this issue?  This is 2,000 a year versus 14.  Now I get it; we expect cops to be decent and when police are the problem in any situation, it's a matter of special attention because the police's very existence is due to the expectation that they will solve problems and not add to them.  On balance, it is arguable that they police DO solve problems, as much as they can.  So where is the condemnation for Gang Violence on the part of NFL players?

Perhaps the silence is because of the number of pro athletes who have gang affiliation.  It takes no courage for these people to blame law enforcement for violence.  What takes courage for them to do (condemn the gangs) they won't do. 

BLM won't say a single word about black folks killed by gang violence.  You tell me why that is.

So let the jocks disavow BLM for their crminality.  Let them voice outrage over the number of deaths per year from gang violence while blaming the gangs themselves.  Let them condemn the Crips, Bloods, etc and all their related sets.  THEN I'll listen to  them.  THEN is when I'll think they believe that All Black Lives matter (not to mention All Lives Mattering, which is Jesus's standard).  Otherwise, it's a bunch of folks lecturing others about the speck in their eye and ignoring the plank in their own.

There is NO cause for the violence that's been going on.  Nothing justifies it.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Yeah why are black people so mad about the police (the people meant to protect and serve them) killing unarmed black people over gangs (criminals) killing black people 🙄

[Fuzzy Bear]

Yeah why are black people so mad about the police (the people meant to protect and serve them) killing unarmed black people over gangs (criminals) killing black people 🙄

"Killing unarmed black people" is a distortion of the facts in these police shootings.  It's an inflammatory phrase.  If you wish to look at the particular situations, point by point, that's fine.

Nothing has justified the violence that occurs and continues to occur.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Yeah why are black people so mad about the police (the people meant to protect and serve them) killing unarmed black people over gangs (criminals) killing black people 🙄

"Killing unarmed black people" is a distortion of the facts in these police shootings.  It's an inflammatory phrase.  If you wish to look at the particular situations, point by point, that's fine.

Nothing has justified the violence that occurs and continues to occur.

George Floyd wasn’t armed, Jacob Blake wasn’t armed, Breonna Taylor wasn’t armed, Tamir Rice wasn’t armed

[Anni di ghiaccio]

Yeah why are black people so mad about the police (the people meant to protect and serve them) killing unarmed black people over gangs (criminals) killing black people 🙄

"Killing unarmed black people" is a distortion of the facts in these police shootings.  It's an inflammatory phrase.  If you wish to look at the particular situations, point by point, that's fine.

Nothing has justified the violence that occurs and continues to occur.

George Floyd wasn’t armed, Jacob Blake wasn’t armed, Breonna Taylor wasn’t armed, Tamir Rice wasn’t armed

I have it on very good information from the Daily Wire that Breonna Taylor was a hardcore drug lord.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Yeah why are black people so mad about the police (the people meant to protect and serve them) killing unarmed black people over gangs (criminals) killing black people 🙄

"Killing unarmed black people" is a distortion of the facts in these police shootings.  It's an inflammatory phrase.  If you wish to look at the particular situations, point by point, that's fine.

Nothing has justified the violence that occurs and continues to occur.

George Floyd wasn’t armed, Jacob Blake wasn’t armed, Breonna Taylor wasn’t armed, Tamir Rice wasn’t armed

I have it on very good information from the Daily Wire that Breonna Taylor was a hardcore drug lord.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/kenosha-cops-say-jacob-blake-was-holding-knife-contradicting-ag/

[Hindsight was 2020]

Yeah why are black people so mad about the police (the people meant to protect and serve them) killing unarmed black people over gangs (criminals) killing black people 🙄

"Killing unarmed black people" is a distortion of the facts in these police shootings.  It's an inflammatory phrase.  If you wish to look at the particular situations, point by point, that's fine.

Nothing has justified the violence that occurs and continues to occur.

George Floyd wasn’t armed, Jacob Blake wasn’t armed, Breonna Taylor wasn’t armed, Tamir Rice wasn’t armed

I have it on very good information from the Daily Wire that Breonna Taylor was a hardcore drug lord.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/kenosha-cops-say-jacob-blake-was-holding-knife-contradicting-ag/

So your evidence is that people who have every reason to lie telling a story that is contradicted by the video we all saw?

[SteveRogers]

The NFL players support BLM.  They earned their boos. 

Just admit you hate black people already.

If you were living in the 1960s, you'd be criticizing MLK, Rosa Parks, and every civil rights activist.

What sort of protests would I approve of?

Protests where all obey the law, and when illegal activity is immediately quenched by the police.  Where police are not standing down and where the bad actors in the crowd get that message BEFORE the trouble.

“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

Maybe you should add that quote to your signature, since you've decided that MLK is that bar that all those uppity ungrateful looters should reach.

Just how, exactly, were BLM doing that?

There is a difference between Civil Disobedience and criminal violence.  Rosa Parks was breaking an unjust law.  Those who sat in at lunch counters were breaking unjust laws.  What they were NOT doing was depriving OTHERS of their Constitutional Rights.

The folks at Atilis Gym today, though not for as crucial a cause, are resisting the unjust laws of New Jersey.  You may not agree with them, but they have not deprived a soul of a single Constitutional Right.

BLM and Antifa break JUST laws daily.  They destroy people's property.  They bully and harass people and threaten them with violence.  They violently act out on other people.  They burn buildings.  That's not breaking unjust laws; that's breaking just laws; things that simply cannot be legal in a civilized society.

Try again.

I'm talking specifically about the NFL protesters kneeling.

How can you possibly take issue with this? It's about as peaceful as you can get.

You've decided that BLM is "violent", so therefor anyone pledging their support over the movement is equivalent to inciting violence and not worth hearing out.

You're going to find an excuse to criticize protesters no matter what, because you do not agree that police brutality is a problem or that racism is prevalent on our society. 

I take issue with the NFL players failing to disavow BLM.

I don't have problems with peaceful, lawful protesters.  I have a problem with violent riots with looting and arson.  I have a problem with people who deny that they're happening when they're plainly happening.

I've discussed my beliefs on criminal justice and police brutality.  The problem with police brutality and abuses is nowhere near the problems that many black citizens of our cities (and even some suburbs) face with criminal gang violence.  Of course racism is a problem, but the idea that Americans are inherently racist is nonsense, and the narrative being spread today is false, toxic, and ought to be rejected.

I'm not going to allow people to present BLM as beneficial or benign.  They are not, and the same goes for Antifa.

Apparently you do in fact have a problem with peaceful, lawful protesters if you think these NFL players deserved to be booed. Full stop. If kneeling NFL players don’t count as peaceful, lawful protesters, then there is, in your mind, no such thing as a peaceful, lawful protest of inequality and police brutality. Sorry, but that’s the only way any reasonable person could interpret the stance you’re taking here.

[ProudModerate2]

Santander's memorable words (post) to Fuzzybear ...

Just say the n word already and get it over with.

[Anni di ghiaccio]

Santander's memorable words (post) to Fuzzybear ...

Just say the n word already and get it over with.

I have reasonable that if this was 1963, Fuzzy would have been calling Dr King a communist and justifying the status quo because the riots in Birmingham proved they didn't know how to behave. Never mind they were caused by a KKK bombing campaign.

[The DEI Hire]

People don't want politics in sports, and that's basically it. That is the main reason why the NBA is losing ratings nightly to FOX News, because they put Black Lives Matter on the court and on their jersey.

I didn’t realize equality was politics

lmao it's not about equality

[Fuzzy Bear]

Santander's memorable words (post) to Fuzzybear ...

Just say the n word already and get it over with.

I have reasonable that if this was 1963, Fuzzy would have been calling Dr King a communist and justifying the status quo because the riots in Birmingham proved they didn't know how to behave. Never mind they were caused by a KKK bombing campaign.

You'd be wrong and you're full of crap.

BLM is utilizing violence in the way that the 1960s Civil Rights Movement never did.  The violence, in those cases, was provided by what Mike Royko called "the worst elements of Southern Beer-Belly Manhood".

There's a reason why MLK is venerated and why BLM is not (and will not be).

[Horus]

Santander's memorable words (post) to Fuzzybear ...

Just say the n word already and get it over with.

I have reasonable that if this was 1963, Fuzzy would have been calling Dr King a communist and justifying the status quo because the riots in Birmingham proved they didn't know how to behave. Never mind they were caused by a KKK bombing campaign.

You'd be wrong and you're full of crap.

BLM is utilizing violence in the way that the 1960s Civil Rights Movement never did.  The violence, in those cases, was provided by what Mike Royko called "the worst elements of Southern Beer-Belly Manhood".

There's a reason why MLK is venerated and why BLM is not (and will not be).

He's venerated now. He died with a 26% approval rating, far lower than what BLM scores.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Santander's memorable words (post) to Fuzzybear ...

Just say the n word already and get it over with.

I have reasonable that if this was 1963, Fuzzy would have been calling Dr King a communist and justifying the status quo because the riots in Birmingham proved they didn't know how to behave. Never mind they were caused by a KKK bombing campaign.

You'd be wrong and you're full of crap.

BLM is utilizing violence in the way that the 1960s Civil Rights Movement never did.  The violence, in those cases, was provided by what Mike Royko called "the worst elements of Southern Beer-Belly Manhood".

There's a reason why MLK is venerated and why BLM is not (and will not be).

He's venerated now. He died with a 26% approval rating, far lower than what BLM scores.

Most people viewed MLK's assassination as a heinous crime.  His assassination shocked America.

And, yes, there were jackasses then.  Violent groups threatening to riot and burn if Coretta Scott King cried at the funeral.  The leaders of those movements are long obscured, and deservedly so.

The moral of the story is that not everyone can be MLK, but any moron can run his mouth while looting target, Molotov Cocktail in hand.

[Horus]

Santander's memorable words (post) to Fuzzybear ...

Just say the n word already and get it over with.

I have reasonable that if this was 1963, Fuzzy would have been calling Dr King a communist and justifying the status quo because the riots in Birmingham proved they didn't know how to behave. Never mind they were caused by a KKK bombing campaign.

You'd be wrong and you're full of crap.

BLM is utilizing violence in the way that the 1960s Civil Rights Movement never did.  The violence, in those cases, was provided by what Mike Royko called "the worst elements of Southern Beer-Belly Manhood".

There's a reason why MLK is venerated and why BLM is not (and will not be).

He's venerated now. He died with a 26% approval rating, far lower than what BLM scores.

Most people viewed MLK's assassination as a heinous crime.  His assassination shocked America.

And, yes, there were jackasses then.  Violent groups threatening to riot and burn if Coretta Scott King cried at the funeral.  The leaders of those movements are long obscured, and deservedly so.

The moral of the story is that not everyone can be MLK, but any moron can run his mouth while looting target, Molotov Cocktail in hand.

Well, I think in 50 years time, the BLM protests of 2020 will have similar approvals to those of Dr. King today. Hell, I even saw a college student on IG wearing both a Trump hat and a BLM shirt, completely unironically. In fact I know several Trump supporters who also support BLM, and polls back me up here. It is clear there is a big generational gap and you are on the other side of it. That's okay, and you shouldn't stress yourself out quite this much trying to completely understand. I'm sure 50 years from now I will feel the same way when the kids are in the streets protesting for hologram rights or something.

[Santander]

Fuzzy would be one of the first people to say not all cops are bad, but he chooses to smear the entire BLM/racial justice movement based on the actions of a small minority of people who engage in violence and crime. I wonder why...