NFL fans boo kneeling athletes during moment of silence

[Free Speech Enjoyer]

https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1304215562143195136?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwca...
"We support PEACEFUL protests!"
"You knelt during my football game! You can't kneel during my football game!"

The problem these folks have isn't that some of the protests have had a handful of bad (or state) actors, it's that people are protesting at all. What a poor reflection on this country that people are more concerned with their own comfort while watching a football game than they are about other people's lives.

[GP270watch]

 This wasn't even during the anthem, it was just a separate moment of silence.

[Free Speech Enjoyer]

This wasn't even during the anthem, it was just a separate moment of silence.

Lol, I think I jumped the gun a little because there's never a discussion about these things where some yahoo doesn't invoke "disrespecting our flag/anthem". And I watched the damn thing!

Edited the title and OP for accuracy.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

People don't want politics in sports, and that's basically it. That is the main reason why the NBA is losing ratings nightly to FOX News, because they put Black Lives Matter on the court and on their jersey.

[Hindsight was 2020]

People don't want politics in sports, and that's basically it. That is the main reason why the NBA is losing ratings nightly to FOX News, because they put Black Lives Matter on the court and on their jersey.

I didn’t realize equality was politics

[MRS DONNA SHALALA]

People don't want politics in sports, and that's basically it. That is the main reason why the NBA is losing ratings nightly to FOX News, because they put Black Lives Matter on the court and on their jersey.

I didn’t realize equality was politics

Let's be honest, the main reason many people vote Republican is that they're afraid of losing their privilege.

[7,052,770]

People don't want politics in sports, and that's basically it. That is the main reason why the NBA is losing ratings nightly to FOX News, because they put Black Lives Matter on the court and on their jersey.

Was the NBA beating Fox News in the ratings in the past? That would be surprising. Even if so, I can't imagine there's much overlap in those 2 fanbases, so it's not like many people are turning off the NBA to switch over to Tucker or whoever.

[Fuzzy Bear]

We have established that it's OK for jocks to openly disrespect the American flag and what it represents to millions of Americans who's lives matter just as much as theirs.  The fans should have no less of a right to register THEIR disapproval.

These NFL jocks have no more right to be received uncritically than anyone else.

Just imagine how fans who have military members or law enforcement members feel at this.  Now you may not care, but your lack of caring does not minimize THEIR right to free expression.  They have shown disregard for their fans; indeed, they have even shown contempt.  That's their right, sanctioned by the NFL.  Let them be the big shots they are and accept the rights of others to return the contempt.

These NFL players have forfeited my respect.

[SteveRogers]

We have established that it's OK for jocks to openly disrespect the American flag and what it represents to millions of Americans who's lives matter just as much as theirs.  The fans should have no less of a right to register THEIR disapproval.

These NFL jocks have no more right to be received uncritically than anyone else.

Just imagine how fans who have military members or law enforcement members feel at this.  Now you may not care, but your lack of caring does not minimize THEIR right to free expression.  They have shown disregard for their fans; indeed, they have even shown contempt.  That's their right, sanctioned by the NFL.  Let them be the big shots they are and accept the rights of others to return the contempt.

These NFL players have forfeited my respect.

Do you even read before you post? This wasn’t even during the national anthem. It was a separate moment of silence having nothing to do with “the flag.”

[MRS DONNA SHALALA]

Just imagine how fans who have military members or law enforcement members feel at this.  Now you may not care, but your lack of caring does not minimize THEIR right to free expression.  They have shown disregard for their fans; indeed, they have even shown contempt.  That's their right, sanctioned by the NFL.  Let them be the big shots they are and accept the rights of others to return the contempt.

Since you care so much about the military (and are definitely not using it as a rhetorical cudgel), I would hope you extend the same contempt to the Commander-in-Chief's comments about fallen soldiers, and his apathy towards foreign bounties.

[Santander]

Wanting your country to live up to its stated values is basically the definition of patriotism.

[emailking]

I don't get the argument that you should only kneel before God, and also that kneeling is showing disrespect.

Seems like some cognitive dissonance there, unless I'm missing something.

[HillGoose]

oh yeah the bad ppl at the protest were 100% government plants, i have no doubt in my mind. big gov is always tryna find ways to divide ppl and all u know.

[Hindsight was 2020]

We have established that it's OK for jocks to openly disrespect the American flag and what it represents to millions of Americans who's lives matter just as much as theirs.  The fans should have no less of a right to register THEIR disapproval.

These NFL jocks have no more right to be received uncritically than anyone else.

Just imagine how fans who have military members or law enforcement members feel at this.  Now you may not care, but your lack of caring does not minimize THEIR right to free expression.  They have shown disregard for their fans; indeed, they have even shown contempt.  That's their right, sanctioned by the NFL.  Let them be the big shots they are and accept the rights of others to return the contempt.

These NFL players have forfeited my respect.

It’s pretty telling that you think moment of silence for racial equality and unity is disrespectful to the troops and law enforcement

[Free Speech Enjoyer]

oh yeah the bad ppl at the protest were 100% government plants, i have no doubt in my mind. big gov is always tryna find ways to divide ppl and all u know.

Anything to promote pseudoscientific concepts like race and raise our taxes. You truly hate to see it!

[Abolish ICE]

We have established that it's OK for jocks to openly disrespect the American flag and what it represents to millions of Americans who's lives matter just as much as theirs.  The fans should have no less of a right to register THEIR disapproval.

These NFL jocks have no more right to be received uncritically than anyone else.

Just imagine how fans who have military members or law enforcement members feel at this.  Now you may not care, but your lack of caring does not minimize THEIR right to free expression.  They have shown disregard for their fans; indeed, they have even shown contempt.  That's their right, sanctioned by the NFL.  Let them be the big shots they are and accept the rights of others to return the contempt.

These NFL players have forfeited my respect.

Speaking as someone who actually has family in law enforcement, what the NBA players who took a knee are doing is about as patriotic as it gets.  They’re engaging in civil disobedience in the same spirit as the civil rights movement.  They clearly have more respect our country’s best values than any of the so-called fans booing them in the clip, that’s for sure.  I mean, the whole idea of calling civil disobedience unAmerican suggest a real lack of understanding by the so-called fans regarding what our country stands for.

This next part isn’t necessarily directed at anyone on Atlas, I’d also add that the whole “shut up and dribble business has always had a bit of a racist undertone to it.  Like, the implication seems to be that white fans/team owners own black athletes and somehow have the right to dictate how said athletes use the platform their talent has given them.

Lastly, if we’re gonna call people “jocks” that should be saved for folks like Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, and “I’m not black; I’m O.J.” Simpson.  These were men who used their platform to cash-in and avoid ruffling any white feathers.  That’s their right; it’s their talent.   Still, to mind at least, that’s what it means when an athlete is just a jock: They don’t aspire to be anything more than an athlete.  Nothing wrong with that, but the folks taking a knee are protesting the fact that even in 2020 the police are murdering innocent people in cold blood because of the color of their skin.  You may disagree with them, but they’re trying to do something meaningful. 

[GP270watch]

 Michael Jordan does a lot of great work behind the scenes. He figures he's being smart by not alienating half the buying public. He is about to donate 100 million to social causes, he opened free/affordable health clinics in North Carolina, and has repeatedly promoted black men to executive positions throughout his myriad business interest. I know the Jesse Helms episode and "Republcians buy shoes too" will always be a part of his legacy, I belive he regrets it and is doing much to change the narrative.

[Fuzzy Bear]

We have established that it's OK for jocks to openly disrespect the American flag and what it represents to millions of Americans who's lives matter just as much as theirs.  The fans should have no less of a right to register THEIR disapproval.

These NFL jocks have no more right to be received uncritically than anyone else.

Just imagine how fans who have military members or law enforcement members feel at this.  Now you may not care, but your lack of caring does not minimize THEIR right to free expression.  They have shown disregard for their fans; indeed, they have even shown contempt.  That's their right, sanctioned by the NFL.  Let them be the big shots they are and accept the rights of others to return the contempt.

These NFL players have forfeited my respect.

Do you even read before you post? This wasn’t even during the national anthem. It was a separate moment of silence having nothing to do with “the flag.”

It's fans with no respect for kneeing jocks making their voices heard.

What's wrong with that?  We have mobs going to the homes of ordinary people at late hours shouting"Wake up, MFet, wake up!" and your silence on that topic implies consent.  So why is this wrong in light of the other behavior?

[Hindsight was 2020]

We have established that it's OK for jocks to openly disrespect the American flag and what it represents to millions of Americans who's lives matter just as much as theirs.  The fans should have no less of a right to register THEIR disapproval.

These NFL jocks have no more right to be received uncritically than anyone else.

Just imagine how fans who have military members or law enforcement members feel at this.  Now you may not care, but your lack of caring does not minimize THEIR right to free expression.  They have shown disregard for their fans; indeed, they have even shown contempt.  That's their right, sanctioned by the NFL.  Let them be the big shots they are and accept the rights of others to return the contempt.

These NFL players have forfeited my respect.

Do you even read before you post? This wasn’t even during the national anthem. It was a separate moment of silence having nothing to do with “the flag.”

It's fans racist with no respect for kneeing jocks Black people making their voices heard. asses of themselves
What's wrong with that?  We have mobs going to the homes of ordinary people at late hours shouting"Wake up, MFet, wake up!" and your silence on that topic implies consent.  So why is this wrong in light of the other behavior? BLM has broke my brain to the point I can’t see what’s morally wrong with booing people who were taking a moment of silence in a call for racial equality

FIFY

[Free Speech Enjoyer]

We have established that it's OK for jocks to openly disrespect the American flag and what it represents to millions of Americans who's lives matter just as much as theirs.  The fans should have no less of a right to register THEIR disapproval.

These NFL jocks have no more right to be received uncritically than anyone else.

Just imagine how fans who have military members or law enforcement members feel at this.  Now you may not care, but your lack of caring does not minimize THEIR right to free expression.  They have shown disregard for their fans; indeed, they have even shown contempt.  That's their right, sanctioned by the NFL.  Let them be the big shots they are and accept the rights of others to return the contempt.

These NFL players have forfeited my respect.

Do you even read before you post? This wasn’t even during the national anthem. It was a separate moment of silence having nothing to do with “the flag.”

It's fans with no respect for kneeing jocks making their voices heard.

What's wrong with that?  We have mobs going to the homes of ordinary people at late hours shouting"Wake up, MFet, wake up!" and your silence on that topic implies consent.  So why is this wrong in light of the other behavior?

Yes, not all the protests have been peaceful or civil. You can acknowledge that and still support the underlying goals of BLM, which are not motivated by Marxism or extreme ideologies.

The protest that was displayed by these athletes was, as jdb said, the very definition of patriotism. It was civil. It was nonviolent. But if you don't believe that people should be protesting racial inequality in this country within our justice system and policing practices, just say so.

I haven't seen a single post of yours that's not critical of any protest, regardless of whether it is peaceful one or not. If kneeling during a moment of silence before a football game is unacceptable to you, then how exactly should protests be carried out? Angry letters?

[Santander]

This is why I have Fuzzy on ignore. I see enough of this sh**t on Facebook.

Football is a game of inches. Life isn't a game. "Shut up and play" is not even particularly thinly-veiled racism. Pro athletes, as public figures, have an amazing platform to raise awareness on the issue, and they're doing it. They're not protesting a few bad cops, or even just the police in general, they bringing awareness on how extensive America's race problems are. It's not a problem limited to a specific police department, government, political party, or indeed, country. Their actions, and in the opposite way, the disgraceful actions of some police officers, have finally started to bring some awareness to Americans (and around the world, too) on just what systemic racism is. Moving that football forward is more important than anything that happens in an NFL game.

As with any political movement or protest, there will be some extremists and anarchists who commit violence and other criminal acts. The only thing that can be done is to disown and condemn them. And even then, the crimes they are committing are nothing compared to the daily physical and psychological violence perpetrated on blacks by the state and the majority.

[The Dowager Mod]

I guess I check both boxes since I was both a soldier and a cop, Guess what? None of the player actions have offended me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Hindsight was 2020]

This is why I have Fuzzy on ignore. I see enough of this sh**t on Facebook.

Football is a game of inches. Life isn't a game. "Shut up and play" is not even particularly thinly-veiled racism. Pro athletes, as public figures, have an amazing platform to raise awareness on the issue, and they're doing it. They're not protesting a few bad cops, or even just the police in general, they bringing awareness on how extensive America's race problems are. It's not a problem limited to a specific police department, government, political party, or indeed, country. Their actions, and in the opposite way, the disgraceful actions of some police officers, have finally started to bring some awareness to Americans (and around the world, too) on just what systemic racism is. Moving that football forward is more important than anything that happens in an NFL game.

As with any political movement or protest, there will be some extremists and anarchists who commit violence and other criminal acts. The only thing that can be done is to disown and condemn them. And even then, the crimes they are committing are nothing compared to the daily physical and psychological violence perpetrated on blacks by the state and the majority.

always good to see when you drop the facade and show the FF you really are 👍

[7,052,770]

We have established that it's OK for jocks to openly disrespect the American flag and what it represents to millions of Americans who's lives matter just as much as theirs.  The fans should have no less of a right to register THEIR disapproval.

These NFL jocks have no more right to be received uncritically than anyone else.

Just imagine how fans who have military members or law enforcement members feel at this.  Now you may not care, but your lack of caring does not minimize THEIR right to free expression.  They have shown disregard for their fans; indeed, they have even shown contempt.  That's their right, sanctioned by the NFL.  Let them be the big shots they are and accept the rights of others to return the contempt.

These NFL players have forfeited my respect.

Whatever happened to you softening your anti-kneeling stance? (Not that this thread is about kneeling, but it seems like you're referring to)

[OSR stands with Israel]

If they booed them for kneeling during the anthem I would not have a problem but they should not have booed during a moment of silence