Incumbent DeWine (R) with Fairly Big Lead Over Brown (D) in Ohio

[Ben.]

The poll pretty much supports what I've been saying this for a while now, namley that Brown is a weak candidate to run statewide in OH while DeWine is actually a fairly strong candidate.

Brown's hopes must rest on Strickland's coatails, but as the same poll as this had Strickland winning by the same margin as DeWine ( ) I doubt it'll help Brown much in the end if Strickland wins big or not, indeed DeWine probably has more to gain from a Blackwell campaign which, while probably losing, will bring out the core GOP vote in solid numbers.   

[Ben.]

...shouldn't Brown at least do better than John Kerry did in 2004?  Or at least better than Eric Fingerhut did LOL.

Better than Fingerhut, that’s for sure, but he won’t do anywhere near as well as Kerry.

I mean shouldn’t Fingerhut have done as well as Kerry in ’04, to put it simply “no he shouldn’t”.

Kerry was a presidential candidate facing an incumbent who’s primary base of support came from his party’s core supporters.

Brown is a senate candidate in a midterm election, facing an incumbent whose has excelled in building a base of support amongst moderate and independent voters, furthermore he’s facing an incumbent who can probably rely on his party’s base turnout for a Blackwell candidacy for Governor. 

[Ben.]

good news!

dewine is horrible.  but brown should be flogged.

But WalterMitty the same poll shows Strickland crushing Blackwell by the same margin as DeWine beats Brown... and yet i thought Ohio would never vote for a "silly" populist  

[Ben.]

good news!

dewine is horrible.  but brown should be flogged.

But WalterMitty the same poll shows Strickland crushing Blackwell by the same margin as DeWine beats Brown... and yet i thought Ohio would never vote for a "silly" populist  

im still confidently predicting a blackwell victory.

Fair enough, but simply don’t see how either Brown or Blackwell climb out from their core bases of support and beat DeWine or Strickland respectively, I can see both DeWine and Strickland holding their bases while winning amongst moderates and independents, at the same time I just cant see either Brown or Blackwell doing the same… in fact the poll is very interesting, two moderates from separate parties seem to be (on this poll at least) cursing to clear wins in their respective races.

[Ben.]

good news!

dewine is horrible.  but brown should be flogged.

But WalterMitty the same poll shows Strickland crushing Blackwell by the same margin as DeWine beats Brown... and yet i thought Ohio would never vote for a "silly" populist  

im still confidently predicting a blackwell victory.

Fair enough, but simply don’t see how either Brown or Blackwell climb out from their core bases of support and beat DeWine or Strickland respectively, I can see both DeWine and Strickland holding their bases while winning amongst moderates and independents, at the same time I just cant see either Brown or Blackwell doing the same… in fact the poll is very interesting, two moderates from separate parties seem to be (on this poll at least) cursing to clear wins in their respective races.

That is as it should be.

Indeed