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« on: September 09, 2020, 05:13:15 AM »
« edited: September 09, 2020, 05:18:37 AM by wbrocks67 »

National (9/5-9/7)l: Biden 50 - Trump 44

Battlegrounds (8/29-9/7)

Michigan: Biden 52 - Trump 42 (Biden +10 last week)
Wisconsin: Biden 51 - Trump 43 (Biden +9 last week)
Florida: Biden 50 - Trump 45 (Biden +2 last week)
Texas: Biden 46 - Trump 46 (Trump +1 last week)
Pennsylvania: Biden 50 - Trump 45 (Biden +4 last week)
Ohio: Trump 50 - Biden 45 (Trump +5 last week)
North Carolina: Biden 48 - Trump 47 (Biden +2 last week)
Minnesota: Biden 49 - Trump 44 (Biden +7 last week)
Georgia: Trump 48 - Biden 46 (Biden +3 last week)
Colorado: Biden 49 - Trump 43 (Biden +10 last week)
Arizona: Biden 49 - Trump 46 (Biden +10 last week)
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2020, 05:14:45 AM »

Kinda wonky sample, a large portion of it is directly after the RNC, so the sample could be weird, but the national # is also kinda out of step a bit.

Michigan and WI are just a strong as they've been, while Florida, PA, TX have seen an uptick. Arizona and CO samples seem to be all over the place (this had Biden +10 last week in AZ and in CO).
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2020, 05:15:00 AM »

Vice President Joe Biden
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2020, 05:15:08 AM »

LOL at Wisconsin being more Democratic than Colorado.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2020, 05:46:37 AM »

LOL at Wisconsin being more Democratic than Colorado.

This particular set of polls almost indicates a Biden EC advantage relative to the popular vote which, needless to say, I'm skeptical of.
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2020, 05:50:00 AM »

LOL at Wisconsin being more Democratic than Colorado.

This particular set of polls almost indicates a Biden EC advantage relative to the popular vote which, needless to say, I'm skeptical of.

Does it? Assuming PA and FL are the typical tipping point state, they're R+1 relative to the national results. It's not a Biden EC advantage, just a smaller Trump advantage than we assume.
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2020, 06:22:36 AM »

Just amazing how consistent TX has been in polling. It's been a tied/Biden+1/Trump +1 race for months now in nearly every poll
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2020, 06:53:26 AM »

Sample sizes are all of likely voters

National
September 5-7
12,000
MoE: 1%
Changes with August 28-30 poll.

Biden 50% (-1)
Trump 44% (+1)

State polls
August 29 - September 7
18,465 likely voters overall
MoE between 2% and 4% per state
Changes with August 21-30 polls except where otherwise stated

AZ
Biden 49 (-3)
Trump 46 (+4)

CO
Biden 49 (-2)
Trump 43 (+2)

FL
Biden 50 (+1)
Trump 45 (-2)

GA
Trump 48 (+2)
Biden 46 (-3)

MI
Biden 52 (n/c)
Trump 42 (n/c)

MN
Biden 49 (-1)
Trump 44 (+1)

NC
Biden 48 (-1)
Trump 47 (n/c)

OH
Trump 50 (n/c)
Biden 45 (n/c)

PA
Biden 50 (+1)
Trump 45 (n/c)

TX
Biden 46 (-1)
Trump 46 (-2)

WI
791 likely voters
MoE: 3.5%
Changes with August 28 - September 6 poll.

Biden 51 (n/c)
Trump 43 (n/c)
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2020, 06:56:55 AM »

Lol I like how this is suggesting basically 2012 pvi’s.
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2020, 06:58:34 AM »

Just amazing how consistent TX has been in polling. It's been a tied/Biden+1/Trump +1 race for months now in nearly every poll

Could be poll herding because of how inexperienced pollsters are with a competitive Texas
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2020, 07:11:10 AM »

Lol I like how this is suggesting basically 2012 pvi’s.

Texas is a dead heat and they didn't even bother polling Virginia because it's now a waste of time.
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2020, 07:51:46 AM »

Lol I like how this is suggesting basically 2012 pvi’s.

Texas is a dead heat and they didn't even bother polling Virginia because it's now a waste of time.

Should’ve specified specifically in Michigan and Wisconsin, didn’t really look down the lost before commenting.
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2020, 08:30:40 AM »

Put in the trash.
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2020, 08:50:12 AM »

For these kinds of multi-state tracking polls the ideal would be to get daily numbers like in Wisconsin, otherwise it could be very difficult to discern random fluctuations from swings. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2020, 08:51:51 AM »

For these kinds of multi-state tracking polls the ideal would be to get daily numbers like in Wisconsin, otherwise it could be very difficult to discern random fluctuations from swings. 

Yeah, I wish they would just release the trackers of all the states like they are doing with Wisconsin. I'm not really sure how their tracker can go from Biden +10 to Biden +3 in AZ in just a week (must've been some VERY wonky daily updates), not to mention the week before last, it was Trump +2
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2020, 09:23:29 AM »

Sample sizes are in (for likely voters). According to 538:

AZ 901
CO 657
FL 3914
GA 1486
MI 1455
MN 649
NC 1592
OH 1963
PA 2227
TX 2829
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2020, 09:48:21 AM »

Senator, Hegar will be in the Senate next year, Joaquin Castro passed up a golden opportunity to run for the Senate this year.
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2020, 10:20:13 AM »

Morning Consult is junk it was Trump+2 in AZ, then Biden+10, and now Biden+3.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2020, 10:52:36 AM »

Morning Consult is junk it was Trump+2 in AZ, then Biden+10, and now Biden+3.

Lol Dems have had a Generic Ballot Lead on every ballot test by 7 pts, enough to win AZ
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2020, 12:15:09 PM »

Morning Consult is junk it was Trump+2 in AZ, then Biden+10, and now Biden+3.
Nah that’s how margin of error works. I trust this much more than  poll showing Biden up by the same margin every week.
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2020, 06:56:49 PM »

Just amazing how consistent TX has been in polling. It's been a tied/Biden+1/Trump +1 race for months now in nearly every poll

And yet, funny enough, RCP is the only outlet I see that considers it a tossup (Besides Atlas & Niskanen). Of course, their polling map has Missouri as a tossup so take it for what it's worth.
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