Salt Lake City police shoot thirteen year old with autism having a tantrum

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/08/us/salt-lake-city-police-shoot-boy-autism-trnd/index.html

A 13-year-old boy was seriously injured after being shot by a police officer in Salt Lake City on Friday night, according to his mother.

Golda Barton said that her son Linden Cameron, who has Asperger syndrome, experienced a "mental breakdown" earlier in the day. It had been her first day back at work in nearly a year, and Linden was having trouble coping, she confirmed to CNN in an email.

Barton also confirmed she called the police and asked for a crisis intervention team to help her manage the situation and get her son treatment.

"I said, 'Look, he's unarmed. He doesn't have anything. He just gets mad and he starts yelling and screaming,'" Barton told CNN affiliate KUTV about her call to police. "He's a kid he's trying to get attention. He doesn't know how to regulate."

Golda Barton said she called police for help managing her son's "mental breakdown."
When police arrived, Barton said her son ran away. She told KUTV that she heard someone yell "get down on the ground" three times, followed by several gunshots.

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Linden's injuries include damage to his shoulder, ankles, intestines, bladder and colon, as well as nerve damage, Barton told CNN.

It is not clear whether the boy actually had a weapon, or exactly what threats police were said to be responding to.

Frankly, I hope there are attempted murder charges filed here. As someone with Autism, I can tell you, that even when a person with Autism is having a mental breakdown, the last thing you want to do is draw a weapon. That only makes the situation worse.

[Where's the Epstein Client List?]

In before Fuzzy says "wElL hE sHoUlDn'T hAvE rEsIsTeD."

Or maybe the rules here are difference since it was a white kid in Utah.

[PSOL]

The police should not be dealing with mental health emergencies, or at least only as a last resort or if the persons involved have weaponry. Mental health professionals and specialists equipped with the knowledge of deescalation and apprehension should be on the front lines here.

Police training dictates that if an officer feels threatened, whether the perpetrator has a weapon or not, they can draw their guns to control the situation. As people with mental health issues are unaware of this fact in the moment, they cannot respond appropriately enough to listen to the officer. This creates problems.

I feel sorry for the kid having been brutalized by the police, perhaps leaving lasting scars of health concerns or PTSD. Such actions should have been avoided at all costs given that drawing a weapon here is inappropriate, especially to an unarmed child.

[Higgins]

The police should not be dealing with mental health emergencies, or at least only as a last resort or if the persons involved have weaponry. Mental health professionals and specialists equipped with the knowledge of deescalation and apprehension should be on the front lines here.

Police training dictates that if an officer feels threatened, whether the perpetrator has a weapon or not, they can draw their guns to control the situation. As people with mental health issues are unaware of this fact in the moment, they cannot respond appropriately enough to listen to the officer. This creates problems.

I feel sorry for the kid having been brutalized by the police, perhaps leaving lasting scars of health concerns or PTSD. Such actions should have been avoided at all costs given that drawing a weapon here is inappropriate, especially to an unarmed child.

Or you could have special arms of the police force trained specifically for mental health crises, as an overall broad reform of the police. It's not all hard to teach principles of mental health to relatively intelligent individuals.

[Suburbia]

The police should not be dealing with mental health emergencies, or at least only as a last resort or if the persons involved have weaponry. Mental health professionals and specialists equipped with the knowledge of deescalation and apprehension should be on the front lines here.

Police training dictates that if an officer feels threatened, whether the perpetrator has a weapon or not, they can draw their guns to control the situation. As people with mental health issues are unaware of this fact in the moment, they cannot respond appropriately enough to listen to the officer. This creates problems.

I feel sorry for the kid having been brutalized by the police, perhaps leaving lasting scars of health concerns or PTSD. Such actions should have been avoided at all costs given that drawing a weapon here is inappropriate, especially to an unarmed child.

[PSOL]

The police should not be dealing with mental health emergencies, or at least only as a last resort or if the persons involved have weaponry. Mental health professionals and specialists equipped with the knowledge of deescalation and apprehension should be on the front lines here.

Police training dictates that if an officer feels threatened, whether the perpetrator has a weapon or not, they can draw their guns to control the situation. As people with mental health issues are unaware of this fact in the moment, they cannot respond appropriately enough to listen to the officer. This creates problems.

I feel sorry for the kid having been brutalized by the police, perhaps leaving lasting scars of health concerns or PTSD. Such actions should have been avoided at all costs given that drawing a weapon here is inappropriate, especially to an unarmed child.

Or you could have special arms of the police force trained specifically for mental health crises, as an overall broad reform of the police. It's not all hard to teach principles of mental health to relatively intelligent individuals.

I’m not sure if it would be possible giving that in certain situations one must “alternate” dealing with mental health crises and normal criminal events.

[lfromnj]

The police should not be dealing with mental health emergencies, or at least only as a last resort or if the persons involved have weaponry. Mental health professionals and specialists equipped with the knowledge of deescalation and apprehension should be on the front lines here.

Police training dictates that if an officer feels threatened, whether the perpetrator has a weapon or not, they can draw their guns to control the situation. As people with mental health issues are unaware of this fact in the moment, they cannot respond appropriately enough to listen to the officer. This creates problems.

I feel sorry for the kid having been brutalized by the police, perhaps leaving lasting scars of health concerns or PTSD. Such actions should have been avoided at all costs given that drawing a weapon here is inappropriate, especially to an unarmed child.

Or you could have special arms of the police force trained specifically for mental health crises, as an overall broad reform of the police. It's not all hard to teach principles of mental health to relatively intelligent individuals.

I’m not sure if it would be possible giving that in certain situations one must “alternate” dealing with mental health crises and normal criminal events.

You would probably send a squad with 2 cops and 1 mental health worker. Have the cops stay back unless needed.

[SnowLabrador]

As an autistic man myself, this is disgusting.

[HillGoose]

i hope she sues the hell out of the Salt Lake City PD

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

As an autistic man myself, this is disgusting.

[ProudModerate2]

I read this story earlier, and there seems to be some dispute on whether the kid had a weapon (of some kind) or not. Or that he was running around making threats to various people with a weapon, or making threats to use a supposed weapon (but the weapon was unseen).
Does someone know if anything related to "a weapon" has been confirmed yet?

[Cashew]

i hope she sues the hell out of the Salt Lake City PD

I agree but we all know the money will be coming from the people of Salt Lake City rather than the officer who shot him.

[lfromnj]

In before Fuzzy says "wElL hE sHoUlDn'T hAvE rEsIsTeD."

Or maybe the rules here are difference since it was a white kid in Utah.

Fuzzy derangement syndrome
FDS

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

The police should not be dealing with mental health emergencies, or at least only as a last resort or if the persons involved have weaponry. Mental health professionals and specialists equipped with the knowledge of deescalation and apprehension should be on the front lines here.

Police training dictates that if an officer feels threatened, whether the perpetrator has a weapon or not, they can draw their guns to control the situation. As people with mental health issues are unaware of this fact in the moment, they cannot respond appropriately enough to listen to the officer. This creates problems.

I feel sorry for the kid having been brutalized by the police, perhaps leaving lasting scars of health concerns or PTSD. Such actions should have been avoided at all costs given that drawing a weapon here is inappropriate, especially to an unarmed child.

Or you could have special arms of the police force trained specifically for mental health crises, as an overall broad reform of the police. It's not all hard to teach principles of mental health to relatively intelligent individuals.

ALL police need to be trained for mental health crises.  They should be able to act as first responders to handle the situation until more qualified professionals are able to step in.

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2020/09/09/salt-lake-police-shot/

Salt Lake City police shot a 13-year-old boy with autism who was running away during a “mental episode” last week — an encounter that came just hours before a new policy took effect requiring officers to try de-escalation first when responding to most cases.

...

The policy specifically states: “De-escalation tactics are no longer suggested or preferred — they are mandatory prior to using force to effect an arrest unless it would be unreasonable to do so.”

It adds, too, that officers need to try “effective communication” to get compliance from a suspect. And police should also not contribute to a situation “that could lead to use of force by taking unnecessary, overly aggressive action.”

[25 Abril/Aprile Sempre!]

In before Fuzzy says "wElL hE sHoUlDn'T hAvE rEsIsTeD."

Or maybe the rules here are difference since it was a white kid in Utah.

Jesus, Fuzzy has a son with ADHD.

[lfromnj]

In before Fuzzy says "wElL hE sHoUlDn'T hAvE rEsIsTeD."

Or maybe the rules here are difference since it was a white kid in Utah.

Jesus, Fuzzy has a son with ADHD.

I mean thats quite different from autism , overall its still a really stupid strawman comment about Fuzzy.

[25 Abril/Aprile Sempre!]

In before Fuzzy says "wElL hE sHoUlDn'T hAvE rEsIsTeD."

Or maybe the rules here are difference since it was a white kid in Utah.

Jesus, Fuzzy has a son with ADHD.

I mean thats quite different from autism , overall its still a really stupid strawman comment about Fuzzy.

Of course, but suggesting that Fuzzy has no empathy for young people with this kind of disorders is really stupid.

[NewYorkExpress]

In before Fuzzy says "wElL hE sHoUlDn'T hAvE rEsIsTeD."

Or maybe the rules here are difference since it was a white kid in Utah.

Jesus, Fuzzy has a son with ADHD.

Yeah, rather unfair attack on Fuzzy here.

There are a lot of things to legitimately attack Fuzzy Bear on. Until proven otherwise, this isn't one of them.

[NewYorkExpress]

Body cam footage is out

A 13-year-old Utah boy with autism was shot by police after his mother asked for help getting him hospital mental health treatment and officers agreed to talk with him, police footage released Monday showed.

The videos show Salt Lake City officers chasing him down an alley after they arrive at his home, then yelling at him to get on the ground. The boy collapses after about 11 shots ring out. He survived but suffered broken bones and pierced organs, the family’s attorney has said. He remains hospitalized.

His mother, Golda Barton, had warned police that her son said earlier that day, 4 September, that he had a gun and had threatened to shoot her male coworker and break windows in the house, the video showed. But she told officers she thought it was a BB gun or pellet gun. There were no indications he was armed.

[GoTfan]

The police should not be dealing with mental health emergencies, or at least only as a last resort or if the persons involved have weaponry. Mental health professionals and specialists equipped with the knowledge of deescalation and apprehension should be on the front lines here.

Police training dictates that if an officer feels threatened, whether the perpetrator has a weapon or not, they can draw their guns to control the situation. As people with mental health issues are unaware of this fact in the moment, they cannot respond appropriately enough to listen to the officer. This creates problems.

I feel sorry for the kid having been brutalized by the police, perhaps leaving lasting scars of health concerns or PTSD. Such actions should have been avoided at all costs given that drawing a weapon here is inappropriate, especially to an unarmed child.

We're quite lucky in Australia. Our police receive comprehensive mental health training.

[Kingpoleon]

Blue Bloods did an episode warning about this exact type of thing. But Republicans who love the police (and watch the show) and Democrats who love Hollywood have done nothing. How sad is that? Tom Selleck has more brains than our governing class.

[Tender Branson]

America's police employ one of the worst. The scum of society, bullies - who would otherwise be nothing.

First shoot, only then think ...

[The Righteous Tip of the Abundance Spear]

This is not the first time I've heard a story of a mother calling the police on her own (mentally disabled) child. Having no experience with this sort of thing, I must ask: how common is it to go to this extreme in dealing with a kid throwing a tantrum? Seriously, calling the police seems like it will inject an unpredictable variable into this that could stress out the kid and make his behavior more erratic.

[GP270watch]

 Horrific video.

 They shot a 13 year old boy who was scared, clearly having an episode, and running away from them.