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« on: September 06, 2020, 06:33:30 AM »

https://www.scribd.com/document/474962250/DMN-UTTyler-2020-Poll-Codebook-2

August 28-September 2, 2020
901 likely voters
MoE: 3.26% (for likely voters)

Changes with June 29-July 7 poll.

Estimated results with leaners (may be some slight inaccuracies due to rounding; leaners not previously pushed):

Trump 49% (+6)
Biden 47% (-1)
(Hawkins 1% + Jorgensen 1% +Other 1%) (-1% from Other being at 4%; Hawkins and Jorgensen not listed in previous poll)
5% were undecided and not pushed in the last poll.
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2020, 06:34:36 AM »

+6?

I guess that's the convention bump.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2020, 06:37:19 AM »

Still not willing to say that Texas is anything but lean R, though it wouldn't absolutely shock me if it's one of the closest states this cycle.  
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2020, 06:40:42 AM »

Just wait until Biden unleashes Antifa in Texas.

Then we’ll see who’s ahead.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2020, 07:01:03 AM »

This includes an LV shift too, Biden is up 1 with RVs.
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2020, 07:08:46 AM »

The media is totally sleeping on the idea that TX could go either way.

TX could be the WI of this cycle.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2020, 07:29:37 AM »

Tossup. Also lmao @ Cornyn only getting 39%. Something tells me TX-Sen isn’t Likely R.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2020, 07:43:22 AM »

Texas is a tossup
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2020, 07:55:15 AM »

Biden also has a narrow lead over undecideds (35-31) with a full 15% of undecideds leaning towards Hawkins.

Also Democrats up by one on generic statehouse ballot!
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2020, 07:57:00 AM »

Also it should be noted the sample is 66% white... which is whiter than 2016 and 2018...which means its actually kind of bad for Trump
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2020, 08:05:51 AM »
« Edited: September 06, 2020, 08:11:09 AM by pppolitics »

Maybe I am missing something, but according to the link you've posted, Biden is +1 with both registered and likely voters.

RV:

Trump: 43%
Biden: 44%
Jorgenson: 2%
Hawkins: 1%
Undecided: 11%

LV:

Trump: 43%
Biden: 44%
Jorgenson: 2%
Hawkins: 1%
Undecided: 11%
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2020, 08:10:31 AM »

Maybe I am missing something, but according to the link you've posted, Biden is +1 with both registered and likely voters.

RV:

Trump: 43%
Biden: 44%
Jorgenson: 2%
Hawkins: 1%
Undecided: 11%

LV:

Trump: 43%
Biden: 44%
Jorgenson: 2%
Hawkins: 1%
Undecided: 11%

No its definitely Trump +2 the formatting is messed up
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2020, 08:14:19 AM »

Maybe I am missing something, but according to the link you've posted, Biden is +1 with both registered and likely voters.

RV:

Trump: 43%
Biden: 44%
Jorgenson: 2%
Hawkins: 1%
Undecided: 11%

LV:

Trump: 43%
Biden: 44%
Jorgenson: 2%
Hawkins: 1%
Undecided: 11%

No its definitely Trump +2 the formatting is messed up

Oh, I see it now.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2020, 08:45:11 AM »

Maybe I am missing something, but according to the link you've posted, Biden is +1 with both registered and likely voters.

RV:

Trump: 43%
Biden: 44%
Jorgenson: 2%
Hawkins: 1%
Undecided: 11%

LV:

Trump: 43%
Biden: 44%
Jorgenson: 2%
Hawkins: 1%
Undecided: 11%

When you look at the poll as opposed to the 538 listing, you'll see they also push undecided voters w.r.t. how they lean (the aggregator usually accounts for this, but for some reason they didn't this time). I incorporated that into the results posted here.
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2020, 08:47:07 AM »

Trump approval: 40/38 (was 42/50)
Abbott approval: 54/33 (was 54/31)
Patrick approval: 42/45 (was 37/37)

Favorabilities:

Cruz: 44/37
Cornyn: 40/32
Hegar: 32/18
Harris: 42/42
Pence: 42/42

BLM: 40/37 (was 42/33)
Socialism: 15/49 (was 14/49)
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2020, 08:49:07 AM »

LV screens are weird in TX, especially with how polls underestimate Dems here, so Biden being +1 in RV is very solid.
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2020, 08:51:45 AM »

Trump approval: 40/38 (was 42/50)
Abbott approval: 54/33 (was 54/31)
Patrick approval: 42/45 (was 37/37)

Favorabilities:

Cruz: 44/37
Cornyn: 40/32
Hegar: 32/18
Harris: 42/42
Pence: 42/42

BLM: 40/37 (was 42/33)
Socialism: 15/49 (was 14/49)


That's a lot of movement on the disapproval. I guess a more Trump-leaning sample might explain the swing.
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2020, 09:08:30 AM »

That's right after the RNC. I'm thinking about taking a bet out on Texas because I'm really feeling bullish about Biden's chances. It might really fall.
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2020, 10:21:27 AM »

The media is totally sleeping on the idea that TX could go either way.

TX could be the WI of this cycle.

TX could go Biden but it won't be the tipping point. Any TX win includes AZ, WI, MI, PA, FL, GA, NC most likely. WI was the tipping point of 16.
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2020, 10:39:24 AM »

22% (!?) undecided on Trump’s approval seems like an extremely odd result.
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2020, 11:12:18 AM »

The media is totally sleeping on the idea that TX could go either way.

TX could be the WI of this cycle.

TX could go Biden but it won't be the tipping point. Any TX win includes AZ, WI, MI, PA, FL, GA, NC most likely. WI was the tipping point of 16.

While it's not the most likely scenario, Clinton did about 3% better than her polling in Texas and Beto did about 4% better.  Clinton also narrowly beat her polling in Arizona and Nevada.  In 2016, Trump did about 3% better than his polling in PA, about 4% better in MI and about 7%(!) better in WI, and while he still won in the end, Evers underperformed by about 4%. 

If these polling errors are baked in, this becomes a plausible outcome for a narrow Biden win (say 3% in the PV):



*Florida polls were basically accurate and had Trump leading in 2016, but the big errors underestimating DeSantis and Scott in 2018 give me pause there.




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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2020, 12:01:39 PM »

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2020, 12:18:15 PM »

The media is totally sleeping on the idea that TX could go either way.

TX could be the WI of this cycle.

TX could go Biden but it won't be the tipping point. Any TX win includes AZ, WI, MI, PA, FL, GA, NC most likely. WI was the tipping point of 16.

While it's not the most likely scenario, Clinton did about 3% better than her polling in Texas and Beto did about 4% better.  Clinton also narrowly beat her polling in Arizona and Nevada.  In 2016, Trump did about 3% better than his polling in PA, about 4% better in MI and about 7%(!) better in WI, and while he still won in the end, Evers underperformed by about 4%. 

If these polling errors are baked in, this becomes a plausible outcome for a narrow Biden win (say 3% in the PV):



*Florida polls were basically accurate and had Trump leading in 2016, but the big errors underestimating DeSantis and Scott in 2018 give me pause there.






Why does this keep getting repeated?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/texas/

Trump beat his polling by ~1% in TX.
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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2020, 12:29:29 PM »

The media is totally sleeping on the idea that TX could go either way.

TX could be the WI of this cycle.

TX could go Biden but it won't be the tipping point. Any TX win includes AZ, WI, MI, PA, FL, GA, NC most likely. WI was the tipping point of 16.

While it's not the most likely scenario, Clinton did about 3% better than her polling in Texas and Beto did about 4% better.  Clinton also narrowly beat her polling in Arizona and Nevada.  In 2016, Trump did about 3% better than his polling in PA, about 4% better in MI and about 7%(!) better in WI, and while he still won in the end, Evers underperformed by about 4%. 

If these polling errors are baked in, this becomes a plausible outcome for a narrow Biden win (say 3% in the PV):



*Florida polls were basically accurate and had Trump leading in 2016, but the big errors underestimating DeSantis and Scott in 2018 give me pause there.






Why does this keep getting repeated?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/texas/

Trump beat his polling by ~1% in TX.

I was using RCP

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_clinton-5694.html

Trump underperformed by about 3%.
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2020, 12:37:27 PM »

The media is totally sleeping on the idea that TX could go either way.

TX could be the WI of this cycle.

TX could go Biden but it won't be the tipping point. Any TX win includes AZ, WI, MI, PA, FL, GA, NC most likely. WI was the tipping point of 16.

While it's not the most likely scenario, Clinton did about 3% better than her polling in Texas and Beto did about 4% better.  Clinton also narrowly beat her polling in Arizona and Nevada.  In 2016, Trump did about 3% better than his polling in PA, about 4% better in MI and about 7%(!) better in WI, and while he still won in the end, Evers underperformed by about 4%. 

If these polling errors are baked in, this becomes a plausible outcome for a narrow Biden win (say 3% in the PV):



*Florida polls were basically accurate and had Trump leading in 2016, but the big errors underestimating DeSantis and Scott in 2018 give me pause there.






Why does this keep getting repeated?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/texas/

Trump beat his polling by ~1% in TX.

I was using RCP

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_clinton-5694.html

Trump underperformed by about 3%.

Isn't there a consensus that the 538 aggregate is superior?
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