Allende, the republican

[buritobr]

On September 4th 1970, 50 years ago, the candidate of the Unidad Popular (a coalition of socialist and communist parties) Salvador Allende was elected president of Chile. He had 36.3% and defeated the conservative candidate Alessandri, who had 34.8%. In the third place was the centrist candidate supported by the sitting president Eduardo Frei. Since no candidate reached 50%, the Congress had to confirm Allende's victory.
The vote for Allende had demographics of republican candidates in the US: he lost the capital and biggest city Santiago. Men and women used to vote in different polls, and it was reported that Allende had the majority in the male polls, and Alessandri had the majority in the female polls.

The rest of the history we know: there was the coup in 1973, Pinochet became the dictator and introduced Chicago style free-market economy before Thatcher and Reagan.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

A black page in the novel that's called our history. Allende was a great person, definitely not a hard-style communist. Pinochet was a brutal dictator that murdered thousands of people in the name of neoliberalism / neoconservatism.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

What a lame take.

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

Winning or losing the capital or biggest city is nothing special.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

What a lame take.

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

Winning or losing the capital or biggest city is nothing special.

Plus, in a country outside the structly-defined developed world, left-populist hinterlands squaring off the bourgeois metropole would be nothing new (though far from the only configuration). Look at China or Vietnam. Hell, I'm fairly sure there are more comparable examples in Latin America itself.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

"Vote Labour so you and your powerful new union can tell your boss to shove it, Jack" vs. "Vote Tory so you don't have to jump through all sorts of baffling hoops to buy something at the greengrocer's, Jane", yeah.

I always wondered why exactly that reversed so dramatically when it did. Was it really just the increasing association of social conservatism with opposition to second-wave feminism?

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

"Vote Labour so you and your powerful new union can tell your boss to shove it, Jack" vs. "Vote Tory so you don't have to jump through all sorts of baffling hoops to buy something at the greengrocer's, Jane", yeah.

I always wondered why exactly that reversed so dramatically when it did. Was it really just the increasing association of social conservatism with opposition to second-wave feminism?

I remember in the conversation surrounding the fact that women voted for Nixon over Kennedy that someone brought up how at that time the female vote skewed more wealthy.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

"Vote Labour so you and your powerful new union can tell your boss to shove it, Jack" vs. "Vote Tory so you don't have to jump through all sorts of baffling hoops to buy something at the greengrocer's, Jane", yeah.

I always wondered why exactly that reversed so dramatically when it did. Was it really just the increasing association of social conservatism with opposition to second-wave feminism?

I remember in the conversation surrounding the fact that women voted for Nixon over Kennedy that someone brought up how at that time the female vote skewed more wealthy.

In that poor women had markedly lower turnout than poor men?

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

"Vote Labour so you and your powerful new union can tell your boss to shove it, Jack" vs. "Vote Tory so you don't have to jump through all sorts of baffling hoops to buy something at the greengrocer's, Jane", yeah.

I always wondered why exactly that reversed so dramatically when it did. Was it really just the increasing association of social conservatism with opposition to second-wave feminism?

As far as I know it's mostly related to increased participation in college education and in the workforce and the rise in salience of, yes, second-wave feminism topics.

Speaking of which I am reminded of my English high school teacher, who is very outspokenly and unapologetically second-wave feminist and fond of telling all the stuff she did in the 1970's but also strangely conservative on certain issues (see: death penalty) and in my class's opinion likely a Lega voter.
For the record, Italy seems to have little in the way of a partisan gender gap.
For the record #2, most of the class (both males and females) found her pretty insufferable.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

"Vote Labour so you and your powerful new union can tell your boss to shove it, Jack" vs. "Vote Tory so you don't have to jump through all sorts of baffling hoops to buy something at the greengrocer's, Jane", yeah.

I always wondered why exactly that reversed so dramatically when it did. Was it really just the increasing association of social conservatism with opposition to second-wave feminism?

I remember in the conversation surrounding the fact that women voted for Nixon over Kennedy that someone brought up how at that time the female vote skewed more wealthy.

In that poor women had markedly lower turnout than poor men?

I guess that would follow. I don't know how empirically true the claim is, but it played on a stereotype of patriarchal lower-class Irish families (or maybe that was how I pictured it in my head).

[buritobr]

What a lame take.

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

Winning or losing the capital or biggest city is nothing special.

Plus, in a country outside the structly-defined developed world, left-populist hinterlands squaring off the bourgeois metropole would be nothing new (though far from the only configuration). Look at China or Vietnam. Hell, I'm fairly sure there are more comparable examples in Latin America itself.

Sure. Usually, in the high income countries, the big cities are more left-wing because they have a larger immigrant population. In many latin american countries, the left does better in the small towns and rural areas and the right does better in the big cities because the richest population live in the big cities.
Nowadays, only two latin american countries follow the high income countries model: Uruguay and Mexico. In Uruguay, the Broad Front does better in Montevideo, while the blancos and colorados do better in rural areas. In Mexico, Obrador is strongest in the Mexico City metro area, while PRI is stronger in the south and PAN is stronger in the north.
In the other countries, the opposite happens. In Argentina, for example, the peronists have better performance in the countryside and the right is better in Buenos Aires.
Brazil used to follow the high income countries model. In 1989, Lula won the big cities (except São Paulo), but conservative candidate Collor was the winner because he won a landslide in the countryside. After Lula became president in 2002 and after he had benefited the poor population of the rural areas, there was the realignment, and PT became stronger outside the big cities. Now, I think a re-realigment will happen, and in 2022, Bolsonaro will loose support in the big cities and he will gain support in rural areas.

[buritobr]

After 50 years, documents point to Nixon’s order to topple Allende in Chile

https://www.plataformamedia.com/en/2020/09/16/after-50-years-documents-point-to-nixons-order-to-topple-allende-in-chile/

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

"Vote Labour so you and your powerful new union can tell your boss to shove it, Jack" vs. "Vote Tory so you don't have to jump through all sorts of baffling hoops to buy something at the greengrocer's, Jane", yeah.

I always wondered why exactly that reversed so dramatically when it did. Was it really just the increasing association of social conservatism with opposition to second-wave feminism?

Women were also more religious. IIRC in France the left parties opposed female suffrage for a time because of the fear that their votes would be dictated by the church.

So I would imagine it would be some combination of decline in union density, secularisation and increasing saliency of feminism. Also the expansion of women working in low-paying jobs and (at least in the UK) the public sector.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

"Vote Labour so you and your powerful new union can tell your boss to shove it, Jack" vs. "Vote Tory so you don't have to jump through all sorts of baffling hoops to buy something at the greengrocer's, Jane", yeah.

I always wondered why exactly that reversed so dramatically when it did. Was it really just the increasing association of social conservatism with opposition to second-wave feminism?

Women were also more religious. IIRC in France the left parties opposed female suffrage for a time because of the fear that their votes would be dictated by the church.

So I would imagine it would be some combination of decline in union density, secularisation and increasing saliency of feminism. Also the expansion of women working in low-paying jobs and (at least in the UK) the public sector.

One thing I would very much like to know is if women are still more religious than men. I have never seen data on that.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Before the 1970's/1980's the partisan gender gap was "reversed" (men were to the left of women) in most liberal democracies.

"Vote Labour so you and your powerful new union can tell your boss to shove it, Jack" vs. "Vote Tory so you don't have to jump through all sorts of baffling hoops to buy something at the greengrocer's, Jane", yeah.

I always wondered why exactly that reversed so dramatically when it did. Was it really just the increasing association of social conservatism with opposition to second-wave feminism?

Women were also more religious. IIRC in France the left parties opposed female suffrage for a time because of the fear that their votes would be dictated by the church.

So I would imagine it would be some combination of decline in union density, secularisation and increasing saliency of feminism. Also the expansion of women working in low-paying jobs and (at least in the UK) the public sector.

One thing I would very much like to know is if women are still more religious than men. I have never seen data on that.

Yes, at least in Christian countries. https://www.pewforum.org/2016/03/22/the-gender-gap-in-religion-around-the-world/