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wbrocks67
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« on: August 31, 2020, 09:55:49 AM »

Biden 47
Trump 38

Taken 8/25-8/28.

Same exact margin from last week (8/22-8/25)

No RNC bump.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/514399-what-americas-thinking-august-31-2020
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2020, 09:57:15 AM »


And the one before that (Aug. 15-18) had Biden leading 46-38.  Consistent with a very stable race.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2020, 09:57:42 AM »

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/514399-what-americas-thinking-august-31-2020
Link isn't working yet for me, but 538 tends to get these results in advance.

August 25-28, 2020
2862 registered voters
MoE not yet released (will add when it arrives)

Changes with August 22-25 poll.

Biden 47% (n/c)
Trump 38% (n/c)
Will add further figures when they arrive.

It should be noted this pollster isn't great. I still think a bump is more likely than not on the basis of USC Dornslife/YouGov/Morning Consult and the main question at this point is whether that's a convention bump or a longer-term shift in the race.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2020, 09:57:59 AM »

The bumps appeared to factor themselves out.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2020, 10:01:44 AM »

I wish this poll didn't have so many undecideds. There are definitely some, but nowhere near 15% (or 12-13% depending on third party votes).
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2020, 10:07:57 AM »

Might be too close to the RNC itself to detect any bumps?
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2020, 10:32:36 AM »

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/514399-what-americas-thinking-august-31-2020
Link isn't working yet for me, but 538 tends to get these results in advance.

August 25-28, 2020
2862 registered voters
MoE not yet released (will add when it arrives)

Changes with August 22-25 poll.

Biden 47% (n/c)
Trump 38% (n/c)
Will add further figures when they arrive.

It should be noted this pollster isn't great. I still think a bump is more likely than not on the basis of USC Dornslife/YouGov/Morning Consult and the main question at this point is whether that's a convention bump or a longer-term shift in the race.

USC Dornsife has shown a stable race/bump towards Biden + YouGov was a repanel of a July sample + MC was a 1 day poll. So I don't think we can really say one way or the other right now.
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2020, 10:35:21 AM »

Might be too close to the RNC itself to detect any bumps?
Most likely the case, if you were to unskew this poll, it would probably be Biden somewhere between +3-5.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2020, 10:45:30 AM »

Might be too close to the RNC itself to detect any bumps?

Not really, 8/22-8/25 was Saturday post-DNC into Tuesday during RNC

And then 8/25-8/28 would be Tuesday during RNC to Friday after DNC

So considering there was no movement really between Biden or Trump during that time, seems like a wash
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2020, 10:51:18 AM »

Might be too close to the RNC itself to detect any bumps?
Most likely the case, if you were to unskew this poll, it would probably be Biden somewhere between +3-5.

"unskew" in what manner?
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2020, 10:55:17 AM »

Might be too close to the RNC itself to detect any bumps?
Most likely the case, if you were to unskew this poll, it would probably be Biden somewhere between +3-5.

"unskew" in what manner?

I guess like how Unskewed Polls used to do.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2020, 10:57:59 AM »

Might be too close to the RNC itself to detect any bumps?
Most likely the case, if you were to unskew this poll, it would probably be Biden somewhere between +3-5.

"unskew" in what manner?

Ala 2012. I bet he thought Romney was going to win as late as the polls closing in Colorado.
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2020, 01:29:42 PM »

Has the name Harris in it. Somehow associated with Kamala. The Deep State rigs another one.
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2020, 06:25:12 PM »

I sure hope this remains the case if, or when, we get other post-RNC national polls. I am perfectly fine with looking like an idiot again for prematurely panicking at a development in this race.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2020, 06:28:22 PM »

Fuller release:

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/514394-poll-bidens-9-point-lead-holds-in-new-partial-post-convention

MoE: 1.83%

Changes with August 22-25 poll.

Biden 47% (n/c)
Trump 38% (n/c)
Other 4% (n/c)
Would not vote 4% (+1%)
Not sure/don't know 8% (n/c)
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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2020, 08:05:02 PM »

But the "tightening" and "Biden collapsing" narrative!
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2020, 08:20:04 PM »

I sure hope this remains the case if, or when, we get other post-RNC national polls. I am perfectly fine with looking like an idiot again for prematurely panicking at a development in this race.

Everybody needs a hobby.  Some people golf, some people do crosswords, you panic. Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2020, 10:18:43 PM »
« Edited: September 01, 2020, 10:22:50 PM by Andy Hine »

I sure hope this remains the case if, or when, we get other post-RNC national polls. I am perfectly fine with looking like an idiot again for prematurely panicking at a development in this race.

If the next poll is Biden +6, will you post about how the world is ending?
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2020, 10:23:16 PM »

Might be too close to the RNC itself to detect any bumps?
Most likely the case, if you were to unskew this poll, it would probably be Biden somewhere between +3-5.
Keep telling yourself that.
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2020, 06:27:37 PM »

I sure hope this remains the case if, or when, we get other post-RNC national polls. I am perfectly fine with looking like an idiot again for prematurely panicking at a development in this race.

Everybody needs a hobby.  Some people golf, some people do crosswords, you panic. Smiley
I sure hope this remains the case if, or when, we get other post-RNC national polls. I am perfectly fine with looking like an idiot again for prematurely panicking at a development in this race.

If the next poll is Biden +6, will you post about how the world is ending?

At this point, after today's polls especially, I can honestly say that once again I was made a fool of by own cynical instincts. It's happened multiple times throughout this election, but it has happened again. I would say that I have learned the same lesson again, but my defense mechanisms for keeping my expectations grounded are just too strong.

For now though, I am feeling reassured.

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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2020, 08:07:25 PM »

I sure hope this remains the case if, or when, we get other post-RNC national polls. I am perfectly fine with looking like an idiot again for prematurely panicking at a development in this race.

Everybody needs a hobby.  Some people golf, some people do crosswords, you panic. Smiley
Stop being a stereotypical whiny neckbeard and go outside.
I sure hope this remains the case if, or when, we get other post-RNC national polls. I am perfectly fine with looking like an idiot again for prematurely panicking at a development in this race.

If the next poll is Biden +6, will you post about how the world is ending?

At this point, after today's polls especially, I can honestly say that once again I was made a fool of by own cynical instincts. It's happened multiple times throughout this election, but it has happened again. I would say that I have learned the same lesson again, but my defense mechanisms for keeping my expectations grounded are just too strong.

For now though, I am feeling reassured.


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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2020, 08:28:54 PM »

I sure hope this remains the case if, or when, we get other post-RNC national polls. I am perfectly fine with looking like an idiot again for prematurely panicking at a development in this race.

Everybody needs a hobby.  Some people golf, some people do crosswords, you panic. Smiley
Stop being a stereotypical whiny neckbeard and go outside.
I sure hope this remains the case if, or when, we get other post-RNC national polls. I am perfectly fine with looking like an idiot again for prematurely panicking at a development in this race.

If the next poll is Biden +6, will you post about how the world is ending?

At this point, after today's polls especially, I can honestly say that once again I was made a fool of by own cynical instincts. It's happened multiple times throughout this election, but it has happened again. I would say that I have learned the same lesson again, but my defense mechanisms for keeping my expectations grounded are just too strong.

For now though, I am feeling reassured.



GM is significantly older than your average internet neckbeard bro, unless you were referring to Progressive Pessimist.
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