What do you hate most about the other party's ideology?

[TDAS04]

Option 1: the tenets of fiscal conservatism (reigning in spending, balanced budgets, reducing deficits, & avoiding deficit spending) aren't inherently objectionable to me, whereas the tenets that define modern social conservatism (being pro-life, opposed to gender equality, anti-LGBT, pro-school prayer, anti-sex ed) most definitely are.

I generally agree with this.  Social conservatism often seems opposed to certain civil rights and equal protection under the law (but I don’t oppose voluntary school prayer).

However, while I don’t disagree in theory with balancing budgets and fiscal restraint, some GOP economic positions do seem rather heartless, especially the opposition to universal health care.  No one should be denied life-saving care because they can’t afford it.  That’s just wrong.

[AGA]

I really don't care about social issues that much. I am quite liberal on most of them, but I care much more about economics. However, I still I picked option 1 because I don't agree with most Democrats on many economic issues, such as huge increases in government spending and taxes. Anti-free-market populism from the current state of the GOP isn't any better, though.

[lfromnj]

I really don't care about social issues that much. I am quite liberal on most of them, but I care much more about economics. However, I still I picked option 1 because I don't agree with most Democrats on many economic issues, such as huge increases in government spending and taxes. Anti-free-market populism from the current state of the GOP isn't any better, though.

So Social issues are basically the tiebreak for you?

[AGA]

I really don't care about social issues that much. I am quite liberal on most of them, but I care much more about economics. However, I still I picked option 1 because I don't agree with most Democrats on many economic issues, such as huge increases in government spending and taxes. Anti-free-market populism from the current state of the GOP isn't any better, though.

So Social issues are basically the tiebreak for you?

Kind of. I prefer economic policy over moderate Democrats over that the current GOP, which I prefer over economic policy of progressive Democrats. I still would have voted Sanders over Trump because of other issues, though.

[RINO Tom]

I guess I never answered ... I think "moderate" Democrats are delusional if they think their party isn't zooming to the left in the coming decades and that it will remain this sophisticated, majority coalition whose main policy goal is to scoff at Republicans, lol.  Furthermore, my main policy worry is that Democratic economic policies will indeed saddle my grandchildren with quite a lot of shlt to dig through, and I do not want that.  I do not believe far-left economic policies to be "pro-science" in regard to economics, and I worry about what a Bernie Sanders with huge Democratic majorities in 20-30 years when your AOCs aren't exactly "non-mainstream" would do to the country.  While I am socially liberal on many things, I really am closer to "moderate" on both economic and social issues, and my *politics/ideology* is better described by basic outlooks and philosophies than a PM test.

Piggybacking off of this, I see it as an okay bargain to support a Republican Party that is more socially conservative than I would like, so long as it serves as a check on liberal idealism when it comes to economic reforms over the coming decades.  I see someone like Trump (or God forbid Hawley) as selfish, opportunistic people who are catering to a coalition they know won't provide the United States any long term benefit in reclaiming our mantle as having the highest standard of living on Earth.  Basically, if you asked me what would actually be best for a functioning, center-right "resistance" in this country to a woke socialist utopia in the 2040s, I would tell you that it is for Donald Trump to lose re-election rather badly, and for a 2024 GOP to have even some of its dumber voters realize that we need a healthy dose of higher-level thinking injected into the party, pronto.

Short answer: the Democrats' economic policies bother me more than their social policies, though their recent descent into woke pandering is indeed puke-worthy.

[Hope For A New Era]

To me, fiscal conservatism no longer means fiscal responsibility. The Trump presidency has proven that more than ever. "Fiscal conservatism" is a code-word for "for the 1%" economic policy, which I will always vehemently oppose.


This is a 180-degree turn from me before 2017 or so. At one point in time I almost exclusively cared about social issues. Since then I've realized how much of a privilege it is to be able to only care about social issues, and I've also realized that solving our economic problems will also solve a lot of our social problems. Trying to solve social problems without fixing the underlying economic problems is a band-aid fix.

For example - instead of just telling people to not be racist, make it easier to not be racist: Fix the racial wealth gaps, which will fix racial education and crime gaps, so that white people will no longer associate racial minorities with crime and danger. Removing that fear response will do far more to end racism in this country than any movement or protest.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The Southern Strategy and Trump plagerizing Ronald Reagan's theme of Making America Great Again.  Both of them takes the country backwards in the sense of BLM another Cold War with Russia, with Putin and Trump coziness and Ronald Reagan and Iranian selling arms for hostages.  As Lee Harvey Oswald is the distant cousin of Robert E Lee as he vowed to kill Kennedy if his Russian wife didn't get a visa to Cuba. Nixon in 1968 campaigned on the Southern Strategy. As Kushner blasted Lebron on boycotting NBA when a police officer shot an AA male in WI

[ChrisMcDanielWasRobbed]

I will never vote for a democrat (or a republican) unless they completely oppose identity politics.

[Chips]

Write-in: As an Independent, I have some problems with both parties on most issues.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

WI: I hate their lack of a commitment to the rule of law and to free and fair elections, along with other similar issues.

[John Dule]

I will never vote for a democrat (or a republican) unless they completely oppose identity politics.

You have no idea how ridiculous that sounds coming from a Trump supporter.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

I will never vote for a democrat (or a republican) unless they completely oppose identity politics.

You have no idea how ridiculous that sounds coming from a Trump supporter.

You really needed to bump this to poke at a banned account?

[Del Tachi]

Oh that's easy, Democrats are the party of elite institutions and acultural secularists.  Next. 

[John Dule]

I will never vote for a democrat (or a republican) unless they completely oppose identity politics.

You have no idea how ridiculous that sounds coming from a Trump supporter.

You really needed to bump this to poke at a banned account?

I didn't realize he was banned, or that I was bumping this for that matter.

[courts]

social issues mostly

[beaver2.0]

I'm opposed to the anti-intellectual philistinism that seems to pervade amongst Republicans and seeps into the social conservatism.  If they were moderate on it, like having their views informed by religious values but not theocratic, I would be more supportive.

Regarding their fiscal beliefs, I sympathize with them, and they might be appropriate in some situations, but ultimately I think it does not work well enough.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

I guess I never answered. Broadly speaking I find muh economic conservatism more objectionable than muh social conservatism.

To answer more personally I could summarize what I hate the most about the right-wing now as this:

- brash and unpatriotic nationalism and related xenophobic aspects
- regressive and elitist fiscal policy (and the attempt to sell it as something else)
- blaming everything on bureaucracy/technocracy (in various forms)
- the occasional bursts of religious pandering performative nonsense about rosaries and sanctuaries and local saints
- random lolbertarianism (broader self-defense yes, drugs no, brothels maybe?)

[Samof94]

I just can’t describe my negative feelings about the GOP hard enough. They claim to be religious yet care more about bulling gay kids than feeding the poor.

[Mr. Smith]

It's the money.

Of course, I find it rather laughable to call them conservative at this point on anything. It's more like nihilistic regressivism on all fronts.

And there are other issues that aren't social or fiscal that are far far more repugnant.

[Tartarus Sauce]

Their rising appetite for counter-majoritarian illiberalism. It's a blatant recipe for authoritarianism and invokes the spirit of our worst political traditions.  

[All Along The Watchtower]

I hate the anti-white racism of the Democrats and the left in general.

I'm a left-leaning Democrat and I'm white. There's no contradiction my friend. We're not Robert Mugabe apologists over here, even if some dumb leftists on Twitter and in certain corners of academia suggest otherwise, but those people are pretty much irrelevant (and aren't even Democrats a lot of the time!).

[All Along The Watchtower]

Their rising appetite for counter-majoritarian illiberalism. It's a blatant recipe for authoritarianism and invokes the spirit of our worst political traditions.  

I think this covers it for me, on both economics and "social" issues.

Didn't vote in the poll.

[Goldwater]

I suppose I count as a Democrat now, and I guess the reasons I dislike the Republican Party are more "soical" than economic.

[RINO Tom]

I suppose I count as a Democrat now, and I guess the reasons I dislike the Republican Party are more "soical" than economic.

Why do you count as a Democrat?  As far as I can see, you're a perfectly fine caricature of an independent.

[Goldwater]

I suppose I count as a Democrat now, and I guess the reasons I dislike the Republican Party are more "soical" than economic.

Why do you count as a Democrat?  As far as I can see, you're a perfectly fine caricature of an independent.

I really just ment that overall I'm probably closer to the current Democratic Party than the current Republican Party, so in a bianary choice the Republican Party would be the "other" party.