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« Reply #975 on: August 23, 2021, 11:27:35 PM »

I think we’ll see about 13-14 million ballots being returned.

That’s 60-65% of the 22 million RV.

2003 had about 62% participation.

1 million returns so far doesn’t mean much and comparisons to 2020 shouldn’t be taken, because returns will drop off at some point in 1 or 2 weeks compared to 2020.

My guess:

53.6% Remain in office
46.4% Recall him

That would be a bigger turnout than the 2018 midterm (12.5 mill). Maybe with the fact everyone was mailed a ballot but my guess is somewhere between 10-12 mill. The bigger the turnout the better for Newsom, the only way he is recalled is if Democratic turnout craters.
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« Reply #976 on: August 24, 2021, 05:42:25 AM »

Nearly 600K ballots have been returned in California already.

Total ballots returned = 578,191
Democrats 334,389 (57.8%)
Ind/Other 128,372 (22.2%)
Republicans 115,430 (20.0%)

https://www.dropbox.com/transfer/AAAAAGsEIwg3FoQZQ0tj5RiXoG5qV9Wr381D1YX38USpHR1C0sb7FTA

Update for the next page

Total ballots returned = 1,076,724
Dems 604,981 (56.2%)
Reps 236,038 (21.9%)
Ind/Other 236,002 (21.9%)
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« Reply #977 on: August 24, 2021, 11:07:55 AM »

How did Elder become the main Republican in this race? Faulconer is a much more impressive candidate imo.
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« Reply #978 on: August 24, 2021, 11:11:52 AM »

How did Elder become the main Republican in this race? Faulconer is a much more impressive candidate imo.
so was john kasich or whoever, and yet
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« Reply #979 on: August 24, 2021, 11:13:53 AM »

Outside of San Diego no one really knows who Faulconer is. Elder has been on the radio for years and California Republicans have always listened to a lot of radio. Plus there is that fact that Republicans tend to prefer more inexperienced and celebrity candidates nowadays.
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« Reply #980 on: August 24, 2021, 11:16:31 AM »
« Edited: August 24, 2021, 11:22:40 AM by Storr »

How did Elder become the main Republican in this race? Faulconer is a much more impressive candidate imo.
so was john kasich or whoever, and yet
California Republicans aren't coalescing around a candidate that could actually win because the effort to impeach him was started and organized by mad wing nuts on the internet. Choosing a controversial talk radio host makes as your main opponent to Newsom make sense in that context.

Edit: DrScholl also makes a good point about Elder being well known among Republicans across the state due to being on radio. It makes sense California has a history of electing celebrities since its hard to become well known across such a large and diverse state. Texas is different since >75% of the population lives in the eastern third of the state.
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« Reply #981 on: August 24, 2021, 11:24:42 AM »

Faulconer doesn't really energize the base in the same manner as Elder. Plus California is a very democratic state so my guess is most moderate suburban Republicans who would have been propelling Faulconer to first place had this been in the 2000s have already switched to the Democrats.
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« Reply #982 on: August 24, 2021, 12:46:28 PM »

Nearly 600K ballots have been returned in California already.

Total ballots returned = 578,191
Democrats 334,389 (57.8%)
Ind/Other 128,372 (22.2%)
Republicans 115,430 (20.0%)

https://www.dropbox.com/transfer/AAAAAGsEIwg3FoQZQ0tj5RiXoG5qV9Wr381D1YX38USpHR1C0sb7FTA

Update for the next page

Total ballots returned = 1,076,724
Dems 604,981 (56.2%)
Reps 236,038 (21.9%)
Ind/Other 236,002 (21.9%)

Is this good or bad that the Democratic share decreases with each update? From which areas are these votes coming in? I guess the total number is still way, way too small for any estimation how this might go. I still struggle to see how Newsom loses, though the polls aren't that great.
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« Reply #983 on: August 24, 2021, 01:05:33 PM »

Nearly 600K ballots have been returned in California already.

Total ballots returned = 578,191
Democrats 334,389 (57.8%)
Ind/Other 128,372 (22.2%)
Republicans 115,430 (20.0%)

https://www.dropbox.com/transfer/AAAAAGsEIwg3FoQZQ0tj5RiXoG5qV9Wr381D1YX38USpHR1C0sb7FTA

Update for the next page

Total ballots returned = 1,076,724
Dems 604,981 (56.2%)
Reps 236,038 (21.9%)
Ind/Other 236,002 (21.9%)

Is this good or bad that the Democratic share decreases with each update? From which areas are these votes coming in? I guess the total number is still way, way too small for any estimation how this might go. I still struggle to see how Newsom loses, though the polls aren't that great.

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« Reply #984 on: August 24, 2021, 01:18:51 PM »

Nearly 600K ballots have been returned in California already.

Total ballots returned = 578,191
Democrats 334,389 (57.8%)
Ind/Other 128,372 (22.2%)
Republicans 115,430 (20.0%)

https://www.dropbox.com/transfer/AAAAAGsEIwg3FoQZQ0tj5RiXoG5qV9Wr381D1YX38USpHR1C0sb7FTA

Update for the next page

Total ballots returned = 1,076,724
Dems 604,981 (56.2%)
Reps 236,038 (21.9%)
Ind/Other 236,002 (21.9%)

Is this good or bad that the Democratic share decreases with each update? From which areas are these votes coming in? I guess the total number is still way, way too small for any estimation how this might go. I still struggle to see how Newsom loses, though the polls aren't that great.

These numbers don't indicate anything at all, and trying to get anything from them at this point amounts to haruspicy. Don't worry about it.
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« Reply #985 on: August 24, 2021, 01:27:16 PM »

Nearly 600K ballots have been returned in California already.

Total ballots returned = 578,191
Democrats 334,389 (57.8%)
Ind/Other 128,372 (22.2%)
Republicans 115,430 (20.0%)

https://www.dropbox.com/transfer/AAAAAGsEIwg3FoQZQ0tj5RiXoG5qV9Wr381D1YX38USpHR1C0sb7FTA

Update for the next page

Total ballots returned = 1,076,724
Dems 604,981 (56.2%)
Reps 236,038 (21.9%)
Ind/Other 236,002 (21.9%)

Is this good or bad that the Democratic share decreases with each update? From which areas are these votes coming in? I guess the total number is still way, way too small for any estimation how this might go. I still struggle to see how Newsom loses, though the polls aren't that great.

Don't think we can say without comparisons to previous elections' trajectories in ballot returns, and even then it would be challenging to comment much.
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« Reply #986 on: August 24, 2021, 02:59:19 PM »

Nearly 600K ballots have been returned in California already.

Total ballots returned = 578,191
Democrats 334,389 (57.8%)
Ind/Other 128,372 (22.2%)
Republicans 115,430 (20.0%)

https://www.dropbox.com/transfer/AAAAAGsEIwg3FoQZQ0tj5RiXoG5qV9Wr381D1YX38USpHR1C0sb7FTA

Update for the next page

Total ballots returned = 1,076,724
Dems 604,981 (56.2%)
Reps 236,038 (21.9%)
Ind/Other 236,002 (21.9%)

Is this good or bad that the Democratic share decreases with each update? From which areas are these votes coming in? I guess the total number is still way, way too small for any estimation how this might go. I still struggle to see how Newsom loses, though the polls aren't that great.


To be fair, the GOP share also decreases with each update.

And also to be fair, we've had like 2 updates.
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« Reply #987 on: August 24, 2021, 03:17:28 PM »

Does Newsom survive, or do enough Democrats vote to recall?
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« Reply #988 on: August 24, 2021, 03:49:04 PM »

That recall tracker is really neat, thanks for sharing. Does anyone have a link to an interactive county/precinct map that’s updated daily? (preferably that one)
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« Reply #989 on: August 24, 2021, 05:03:40 PM »

That recall tracker is really neat, thanks for sharing. Does anyone have a link to an interactive county/precinct map that’s updated daily? (preferably that one)

PoliticalData.com had a thing where you could sign up to get all the info in that tweet sent to your email every day, not sure if it's still up though. I signed up before though, I can share whenever I get it each day
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« Reply #990 on: August 24, 2021, 05:09:45 PM »
« Edited: August 24, 2021, 05:34:26 PM by Girlytree »

Snowy is right newsom gonna be recalled replaced by AA Elder AAs against recall Latino trends going R

New Jersey Virginia Safe D

She retweeted this
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« Reply #991 on: August 24, 2021, 11:16:38 PM »

Absentee ballot retutun update.


https://www.politicaldata.com/2020-ballot-returns-top-25-searches/

Total ballots returned = 1,556,736*
Dems 884,638 (56.8%)
Reps 332,097 (21.3%)
Ind/Other 340,378 (21.9%)

* total does not quite equal Dems+ Rep + other. Off by 377 voters.
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« Reply #992 on: August 25, 2021, 02:03:00 AM »





Images of the latest update.

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« Reply #993 on: August 25, 2021, 05:25:45 AM »

It appears so far that Dems have woken up.

Anything can happen here but would not be surprised if polls end up totally screwing up the LV screen.
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« Reply #994 on: August 25, 2021, 11:37:42 AM »

Former CA Senate Majority Leader Gloria Romero (D) endorses Elder.

"Yes, I'm a Democrat. But the recall of Newsom is not about political party. It’s about Newsom. Larry Elder for governor."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14lGYWA-HVg1pNhLLnEoxAWCHdUMwc4Bf/view

The recall is as much about political party as the olympics are about sports and nationalism
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« Reply #995 on: August 25, 2021, 12:30:31 PM »

It appears so far that Dems have woken up.

Anything can happen here but would not be surprised if polls end up totally screwing up the LV screen.

Right now partisanship is pretty much mirroring 2020 turnout. I expect GOP voters will turnout more early and in person than VBM
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« Reply #996 on: August 25, 2021, 02:06:33 PM »

Is it just me or does it seem odd that we haven’t had any new polls for what… almost two weeks?
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« Reply #997 on: August 25, 2021, 02:15:43 PM »

What's the deal with Elder? The guy doesn't have any real qualifications for the job and reading his political positions on Wikipedia page tells me that he's a far-right nutjob. He'd not represent a majority of Californians.
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« Reply #998 on: August 25, 2021, 02:29:15 PM »

What's the deal with Elder? The guy doesn't have any real qualifications for the job and reading his political positions on Wikipedia page tells me that he's a far-right nutjob. He'd not represent a majority of Californians.

Elder's counting on Democrats being complacent and/or thinking that recalling Newsom means they get a different Democrat.
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« Reply #999 on: August 25, 2021, 03:11:17 PM »

What's the deal with Elder? The guy doesn't have any real qualifications for the job and reading his political positions on Wikipedia page tells me that he's a far-right nutjob. He'd not represent a majority of Californians.
If not for him and Dennis Prager, we might not have had South Park.


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