Should Democrats have recruited Henry Cuellar for Governor
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« on: December 09, 2021, 08:43:49 PM »

Given that Texas is a state where you can run for multiple races at once and Cuellar is one of the last remaining conservadems left
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2021, 08:45:37 PM »

No, Abbott is simply invincible in a Dem midterm barring a Roy Moore level scandal. 

They should run Cuellar against Cruz in 2024. He might even be favored.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2021, 09:35:23 PM »

No, they should focus on recruiting Democrats.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2021, 10:19:15 PM »

Cuellar would do worse than Beto.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2021, 10:24:22 PM »
« Edited: December 09, 2021, 10:29:59 PM by Southern Delegate Punxsutawney Phil »

No, they should focus on recruiting Democrats.
Cuellar is a Democrat and denying that makes you look quite silly.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2021, 11:20:20 PM »

Beto will drop some Spanglish and a latinx in the rgv and inspire fdr 1932 levels of support and win
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2021, 11:21:27 PM »

I'm not a big fan.

But I do wonder how a South Texas Conservadem would perform statewide.

Probably not bad against Dan Patrick or Ken Paxton.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2021, 11:24:10 PM »

He would probably lose the primary.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2021, 11:49:28 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2021, 12:00:49 AM by THG »

No, they should focus on recruiting Democrats.

Why yes, and Republicans should focus on recruiting real hardline #MAGA Republicans in blue states like Massachusetts or Virginia, not squishy RINOS!
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2021, 04:16:30 AM »

D's are underperforming, not because of poor quality CANDIDATE, it's because of the Border issue, Biden hasn't gone and seen the Border once since he been in office


But Trump only won TX by six, Abbott isn't winning by 15 and DeSantis is gonna win by 3 absent a blue wave
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2021, 07:35:58 AM »

Yes, but not in 2022. He would make race very close, maybe he even would have won in 2018. Now Democrats should recruit him to run for Senate in 2024
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2021, 10:06:01 AM »

Yes, but not in 2022. He would make race very close, maybe he even would have won in 2018. Now Democrats should recruit him to run for Senate in 2024

2026 is probably going to be great year for Democrats if 2022 is bad enough that it makes Republicans inevitable in 2024.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2021, 12:13:48 PM »

No, they should focus on recruiting Democrats.
Cuellar is a Democrat and denying that makes you look quite silly.

It's called hyperbole, but the point is that when it comes to the Senate, the debacle with BBB should make it even more clear that Democrats have to have some level of standard, and not literally accept anyone with a (D) next to their name who will happily sabotage any attempt toward progress if they believe it helps their re-election odds.

No, they should focus on recruiting Democrats.

Why yes, and Republicans should focus on recruiting real hardline #MAGA Republicans in blue states like Massachusetts or Virginia, not squishy RINOS!


First of all, Massachusetts is not at all comparable to Texas in terms of partisan lean. Second of all, I'm not saying Democrats need an absolute hardliner, simply not another Sinemanchin who will hold up any kind of progress in the name of "moderate heroism" (or because they think it'll help their re-election odds), and lastly, don't Republicans do this anyway? It's not like Republicans from swing states or even slightly Democratic-leaning states are particularly moderate or "bipartisan." Plenty are hardline partisans who vote as though they represent Oklahoma and face zero consequences for doing so.
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2021, 01:11:43 PM »

No, they should focus on recruiting Democrats.
Cuellar is a Democrat and denying that makes you look quite silly.

It's called hyperbole, but the point is that when it comes to the Senate, the debacle with BBB should make it even more clear that Democrats have to have some level of standard, and not literally accept anyone with a (D) next to their name who will happily sabotage any attempt toward progress if they believe it helps their re-election odds.
If that was the point you had, it was hard to discern due to your wording making you sound like someone prone to the silliest types of purity testing for mere party labels.
What is true is that Cuellar would face challenges with the TX Dem statewide electorate, which is quite different from the Tejanos that form the bulk of TX-28.
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2021, 01:35:31 PM »

He'd have an unfortunately tough time getting through a Dem primary. I wonder what the chances are he switches parties if his margins start getting tight in the next decade.
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2021, 02:14:58 PM »

No, they should focus on recruiting Democrats.
Cuellar is a Democrat and denying that makes you look quite silly.
For now.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2021, 02:58:03 PM »

Beto can win if and when Voting Rights passes
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2021, 03:08:05 PM »

No, the 2022 Texas gubernatorial race is a hopeless case anyway.
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2021, 03:12:07 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2021, 03:15:40 PM by Mr. MANDELA BARNES »

No, the 2022 Texas gubernatorial race is a hopeless case anyway.

Yeah because your Biden didn't secure the Border and won't visit Border states FL or TX except during Surf'side

Due to Russian Pipeline runs in the South and high Gas prices

We should nominate someone else if we lose in 22 in 24 he is losing Anyways


Landslided Lyndon called him Landslide Biden and the reason why we have such a narrow majority Hunter Biden and Reade hurt him among females, most of the Ds that lost were Females Boiler, HEGAR, Greenfield and Gideon, when we didn't win ME the Senate was not gonna be D it ended up being a tie and we couldn't pass Voting Rights
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2021, 03:37:04 PM »

I suppose a party switch is possible. But I get the sense neither Ds nor Rs would welcome that.
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2021, 04:17:39 PM »

No, they should focus on recruiting Democrats.
Cuellar is a Democrat and denying that makes you look quite silly.

It's called hyperbole, but the point is that when it comes to the Senate, the debacle with BBB should make it even more clear that Democrats have to have some level of standard, and not literally accept anyone with a (D) next to their name who will happily sabotage any attempt toward progress if they believe it helps their re-election odds.

No, they should focus on recruiting Democrats.

Why yes, and Republicans should focus on recruiting real hardline #MAGA Republicans in blue states like Massachusetts or Virginia, not squishy RINOS!


First of all, Massachusetts is not at all comparable to Texas in terms of partisan lean.

But Virginia is.

Also, Cuellar is still a Democrat, albeit one who is conservative relative to the rest of the party, which has moved increasingly to the left.
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2021, 05:49:44 PM »

Almost zero chance he'd win the primary outside of the RGV and Laredo areas. And even if he did win the primary, most dems won't even turn out for him as he's basically a Manchin/Sinema clone, and that's even if Biden and Obama endorse him.
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