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« on: August 15, 2020, 10:51:52 AM »

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/14/edward-snowden-trump-presidential-pardon-speculation

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Speculation is growing over whether Donald Trump might pardon Edward Snowden after the US president told an interviewer that the exiled former intelligence operative was “not being treated fairly”.
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The comments came as the Kentucky congressman Thomas Massie, a Republican, made a surprising call on Friday for Snowden to receive a presidential pardon.

Massie, whom Trump has previously attacked, tweeted that Trump “should pardon” Snowden, 37.
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Trump himself mused this week on Snowden, in an interview with the New York Post.

“There are a lot of people that think that he is not being treated fairly. I mean, I hear that,” Trump told the newspaper.

He added: “Many people are on his side, I will say that. I don’t know him, never met him. But many people are on his side.”
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2020, 11:25:19 AM »



Donald Trump has killed tens of thousands of Americans through his actions, violated the law and the Constitution and is trying to steal an election so he can avoid facing justice for his crimes.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2020, 11:32:04 AM »

Triggered warmongering neolibs incoming.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2020, 11:35:06 AM »

If Trump does so, this would be a genuinely good thing to come from his Administration.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2020, 11:39:14 AM »

My decision not to vote for him in either 2016 or 2020 looks better by the day.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2020, 12:56:46 PM »

This would be another episode of "imagine how Republicans would have reacted if Obama..."
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2020, 11:58:55 PM »

If Trump does so, this would be a genuinely good thing to come from his Administration.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2020, 12:14:06 AM »

Trump is gonna try and pardon anyone that is connected with his corruption,  he knows he is gonna get prosecuted
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2020, 12:20:19 AM »

Trump stated Snowden should have been executed like 4 years ago, but hey I'm glad he's accidentally found a good policy while trying to desperately own the libs.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2020, 01:04:18 AM »

This is a bad idea and it makes me dislike Trump even more
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2020, 01:07:15 AM »

We’re reaching my wildest dreams circa 2014. What a wonderful development.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2020, 07:06:37 AM »

If Trump does so, this would be a genuinely good thing to come from his Administration.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2020, 08:18:17 AM »

Who knew that Donald Trump would consider pardoning a man with ties to Russia and whose supporters would say exposed a deep state conspiracy?
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2020, 09:08:44 AM »

Trump stated Snowden should have been executed like 4 years ago, but hey I'm glad he's accidentally found a good policy while trying to desperately own the libs.
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2020, 10:05:22 AM »

There is always a Tweet:

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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2020, 10:08:43 AM »

I won't hold my breath. Trump has been very limited in his ability to oppose the NatSec consensus; I'm sure he wants to do this sort of thing more often than not, but when it comes to decision time, there's usually an advisor able to persuade him to back off (or, where it can, a Senate able to block his attempt).
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2020, 10:10:01 AM »

There is always a Tweet:



Americans long have said they wanted a President who said out loud exactly what they thought.  Now, they have one.
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2020, 10:14:38 AM »

There is always a Tweet:



Americans long have said they wanted a President who said out loud exactly what they thought.  Now, they have one.

You mean a president with incoherent verbal diarrhoea?
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2020, 10:30:35 AM »

I won't hold my breath. Trump has been very limited in his ability to oppose the NatSec consensus; I'm sure he wants to do this sort of thing more often than not, but when it comes to decision time, there's usually an advisor able to persuade him to back off (or, where it can, a Senate able to block his attempt).
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2020, 10:34:35 AM »

There is always a Tweet:



Americans long have said they wanted a President who said out loud exactly what they thought.  Now, they have one.

You mean a president with incoherent verbal diarrhoea?

Spoken like a man with a gargantuan 123 posts who probably has Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from the challenge of typing "effort posts" on his way to being a Forum Institution.
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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2020, 10:50:04 AM »

There is always a Tweet:



Americans long have said they wanted a President who said out loud exactly what they thought.  Now, they have one.

You mean a president with incoherent verbal diarrhoea?

Spoken like a man with a gargantuan 123 posts who probably has Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from the challenge of typing "effort posts" on his way to being a Forum Institution.

Envy isn't a good look on you.
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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2020, 11:22:17 AM »

Other tweets from 2013-2014 (nothing since)

"@Eriksson: Call it any way you like, but Snowden is a traitor. When our country was great do you know what we did to traitors?” 😑😑😑"
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/474442564074876928

Snowden is a traitor and a disgrace. Make no mistake, he is no hero. In fact he is a coward who should come back & face justice.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/472447734860218369

Snowden is a liar.and a fraud!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/471993761648492544

Have you ever seen our country look weaker or more pathetic: Snowden, ObamaCare, VA, Russia, jobs, decimated military, debt and so much more
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/471991556850081792

Like it or not, Edward Snowden is a SPY and should be tried as a SPY! He has stolen invaluable information and damaged us with other nations
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/471423704597942273

Look, Snowden is bad, done tremendous damage to our country and standing - but we have far worse in our government (guess who?).
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/457787929969324032

Snowden is a spy who has caused great damage to the U.S. A spy in the old days, when our country was respected and strong, would be executed
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/457314934473633792

Remember, Russia still has Snowden. When are we going to bring that piece of human garbage back home to stand trial? He caused great damage!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/457303458266513408

Get Snowden back from Russia—he has done tremendous damage to the US & should pay a very heavy price.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/456144054640586752

On top of the disrespect shown by Russia, don’t forget they still have Snowden, who has given them (& everyone) massive US secrets.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/456143828991213568

Snowden should come back to America and face justice. Instead, he is begging for clemency from Moscow. Treat him as a spy.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/418849306783657985

"@cooey2ruley: @realDonaldTrump since you are in Russia go kick Snowden in the ass."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/399181878470520833

Message to Edward Snowden, you’re banned from @MissUniverse. Unless you want me to take you back home to face justice!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/392382893470662656

Snowden is handing over to Russia a treasure trove of intel. Our politicians are incapable of dealing!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/363008114582228992

@kaplunm "@realDonaldTrump thoughts on Snowden being granted asylum in Russia?" No respect for U.S. by Russia.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/362989122232647680

"@fam5rock: @realDonaldTrump #snowden not a traitor. Shared info with fellow Americans who have a right to know about NSA snooping" Bull****
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/361223434195312640
(not censored on Twitter)

I would invite Edward Snowden to be a judge at the Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow but would be concerned that he would sell results early!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/356180327271641091

Russia should hand over Snowden to the U.S. but they are having too much fun taunting our leaders.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/356010388946558977

Snowden has given serious information to China and Russia-anyone who thinks otherwise is a dope! He is a traitor who fled-he knew the crime!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/355119266317615105

Lying traitor Snowden now claims that he did not give any information to the Russians or Chinese.  Why doesn’t he come home then?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/355062513148231680

Snowden, if you’re such a hero then come back home and face justice.  In reality, you are just another wiseguy traitor.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/352096103350546434

Edward Snowden is absolutely killing the the U.S. with other countries!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/351645788994158593

How did Snowden, with not even a high school education, get access to top secret U.S. records. He then gave, or sold, those records-traitor!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/350602182237753344

Call it any way you like, but Snowden is a traitor. When our country was great do you know what we did to traitors?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/350338032790028288

"@CoolChange80: @realDonaldTrump Are you really calling for the execution of #Snowden ."  He is a traitor, absolutely. Others won't follow!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/349697448366718977

Snowden is doing great damage to our relations with other countries and U.S.prestige. China is laughing at us as he continues illegal action
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/346996400963338240

Snowden is sitting in China and taunting the U.S. He is mocking us as a Country. Great time to place a tax on China trade if not turned over
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/346993964483743746

If Snowden was such a hero then he would be in America.  He is escaping justice!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/344850299934097409


My favorite:

All I can say is that if I were President, Snowden would have already been returned to the U.S. (by their fastest jet) and with an apology!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/346998236776640513
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2020, 11:30:31 AM »

lmfao yeah you know even as a neocon I'm gonna say, Snowden would be an okay guy IF he did what he says he did for the reasons he said he did, but I don't buy it.

Dude just wanted fame and glory. He could have done all the sh**t he did totally anonymously. But he didn't. That says something about his motivations, and his motivations are where I think it takes him from "whistleblower" to "traitor"

I honestly think if he had done things the right way, he should have been protected under whistleblower law, but since he didn't he's just a traitor and if he ever returns to the US should be taken in the backyard and have one put between the eyes.
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2020, 11:52:25 AM »

Good
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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2020, 12:05:26 PM »

There is always a Tweet:



Americans long have said they wanted a President who said out loud exactly what they thought.  Now, they have one.

You mean a president with incoherent verbal diarrhoea?

Spoken like a man with a gargantuan 123 posts who probably has Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from the challenge of typing "effort posts" on his way to being a Forum Institution.

Ad hominems against strangers are the hallmark of a strong argument.
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