YouGov: PA (Biden+9), WI (Biden +6), MI (Biden +4)
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« on: August 10, 2020, 06:14:23 AM »

Michigan
Biden 47
Trump 43
Other/DK 11

Pennsylvania
Biden 50
Trump 41
Other/DK 8

Wisconsin
Biden 49
Trump 43
Other/DK 8

https://elections.wisc.edu/second-2020-election-survey/

Trump job approval
Michigan: 42/55 (-13)
Pennsylvania: 44/52 (-8)
Wisconsin: 42/55 (-13)
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2020, 06:17:31 AM »

PA lines up with what we've seen from other High quality pollsters, while Wisconsin is the exact result that the CBS/YouGov result got.

Michigan, however, is weird, since we also have a -13 approval for Trump there. But I guess this balances out the other like Biden +15 polls we've gotten there
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2020, 06:21:52 AM »

A sample size of 800 yields a MoE of 3.5%, so MI could be anything from Trump+3 to Biden+11.

I'd be a bit surprised if WI ends up more Dem than MI.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2020, 08:32:02 AM »

Another Biden underperformance in Pennsylvania. Sad.
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2020, 08:43:00 AM »

This proves any doubters that Biden will flip all 3 states
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2020, 08:55:31 AM »

Ugh, MI isn't voting to the right of PA and WI. Especially not compared to PA by this amount.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2020, 08:56:25 AM »

Ugh, MI isn't voting to the right of PA and WI. Especially not compared to PA by this amount.

YouGov's national poll has been pretty on the mark the last few months (Biden +9), but their state polls have been kind of wonky.
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2020, 09:57:13 AM »

I don't think these results would be very surprising, even if they voted for Biden in this order. Would line up with a Biden+7 NPV pretty well.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2020, 10:06:35 AM »

LV screen actually helps Biden here:

Biden’s lead is even larger when limiting the analysis to only registered voters who say they are
“certain” to vote. Among them, Biden leads by five points in Michigan (50-45), ten in
Pennsylvania (52-42), and eight in Wisconsin (52-44).
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2020, 10:11:47 AM »

Also interesting that these a panel polls:

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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2020, 10:22:23 AM »

A sample size of 800 yields a MoE of 3.5%, so MI could be anything from Trump+3 to Biden+11.

I'd be a bit surprised if WI ends up more Dem than MI.

Trump isnt winning any of the three states
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2020, 11:09:05 AM »

LV screen actually helps Biden here:

Biden’s lead is even larger when limiting the analysis to only registered voters who say they are
“certain” to vote. Among them, Biden leads by five points in Michigan (50-45), ten in
Pennsylvania (52-42), and eight in Wisconsin (52-44).

I feel like the CW is that LV helps Rs, but I feel like this year will be different. Not to mention, Ds outdid their polling average in 2018 too.
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2020, 12:16:17 PM »

LV screen actually helps Biden here:

Biden’s lead is even larger when limiting the analysis to only registered voters who say they are
“certain” to vote. Among them, Biden leads by five points in Michigan (50-45), ten in
Pennsylvania (52-42), and eight in Wisconsin (52-44).

I feel like the CW is that LV helps Rs, but I feel like this year will be different. Not to mention, Ds outdid their polling average in 2018 too.

The initial switch from RV to LV almost always results in a tightening that everyone freaks out about, before typically the Democrat improves as Election Day nears.
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2020, 02:22:05 PM »

Michigan definitely could vote slightly to the right of PA/WI, but not by 5 points.
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2020, 02:23:28 PM »

Not buying the MI numbers at all. Every good poll for months has had it at least Biden +10.
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2020, 06:31:28 PM »

I wish I could celebrate this poll, but I just can't buy the Michigan result.
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2020, 08:29:23 PM »

I’ve never really understood why people think Trump should abandon MI as if he could afford to lose the state badly because he’s in a much better position in other swing states. He’s not winning WI/PA/AZ if MI is "gone" for him.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2020, 10:17:45 PM »

I’ve never really understood why people think Trump should abandon MI as if he could afford to lose the state badly because he’s in a much better position in other swing states. He’s not winning WI/PA/AZ if MI is "gone" for him.
Thank you. If Trump loses Michigan, he loses the presidency. Period.
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