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Question: Of the following candidates, which choked harder?
#1
Al Gore 2000
 
#2
John Kerry 2004
 
#3
Mitt Romney 2012
 
#4
None of these had a prayer
 
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Podgy the Bear
mollybecky
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« on: August 15, 2020, 08:28:33 AM »
« edited: August 15, 2020, 08:34:40 AM by Georgia Democrat in 2020 »

You had to have been there in 2000 to see what it was all about.  People today think that Gore should have easily won for several reasons (Clinton's popularity, strong economy) and he blew it.  

But Clinton's popularity post-impeachment and Senate trial took a hit in the more conservative areas that he had won in 1992 and 1996.  The South and Midwest reflected those swings away from the Democrats in 2000.  In those areas, Bush was looked as the moral salvation in response to the repugnance of the Clinton years.   And the perception of the economy at that time was not all that strong.  The stock market was taking big hits from the dot com bubble that had burst (and this continued for a while and did indicate a looming recession which happened in 2001).  

Gore was running behind Bush for most of 1999 and much of the 2000 campaign--which caused many to think that Gore would lose the popular vote but could pull it out in the electoral college (!!!).  Finally, the Ralph Nader effect reared its very ugly head in places that had gone solidly for Clinton in the previous two election cycles.  Add to this, the normal pendulum shift away from the party in power--it is clearly difficult to win a third term in a row.

To their credit, the Gore campaign understood that the Democrats had accumulated a significant electoral vote edge from 1992 and 1996.  They focused on the states they thought that they could hold.    And they came close to winning the big state trifecta (PA, MI, FL) and the Nader states (all except NH--FL wasn't really considered a Nader state even though 538 votes out of nearly 100,000 could have made the difference).  He retained 48 percent of the popular vote (Clinton in 1996 got 49).

Gore's campaign was full of blunders and tactical mistakes (terrible response to the Elian Gonzalez episode, selection of the sanctimonious Joe Lieberman as his running mate, didn't allow Clinton to campaign in FL, didn't focus hard enough in TN or WV, wrote off OH a month before the election when he ended up losing it by only 4 points).  And the 36 day post-election process by Gore et al is another matter altogether.  But looking back after 20 years, it's really amazing that Al Gore came as close as he did.
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Podgy the Bear
mollybecky
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2020, 10:07:33 PM »

You had to have been there in 2000 to see what it was all about.  People today think that Gore should have easily won for several reasons (Clinton's popularity, strong economy) and he blew it.  

But Clinton's popularity post-impeachment and Senate trial took a hit in the more conservative areas that he had won in 1992 and 1996.  The South and Midwest reflected those swings away from the Democrats in 2000.  In those areas, Bush was looked as the moral salvation in response to the repugnance of the Clinton years.   And the perception of the economy at that time was not all that strong.  The stock market was taking big hits from the dot com bubble that had burst (and this continued for a while and did indicate a looming recession which happened in 2001).  

Gore was running behind Bush for most of 1999 and much of the 2000 campaign--which caused many to think that Gore would lose the popular vote but could pull it out in the electoral college (!!!).  Finally, the Ralph Nader effect reared its very ugly head in places that had gone solidly for Clinton in the previous two election cycles.  Add to this, the normal pendulum shift away from the party in power--it is clearly difficult to win a third term in a row.

To their credit, the Gore campaign understood that the Democrats had accumulated a significant electoral vote edge from 1992 and 1996.  They focused on the states they thought that they could hold.    And they came close to winning the big state trifecta (PA, MI, FL) and the Nader states (all except NH--FL wasn't really considered a Nader state even though 538 votes out of nearly 100,000 could have made the difference).  He retained 48 percent of the popular vote (Clinton in 1996 got 49).

Gore's campaign was full of blunders and tactical mistakes (terrible response to the Elian Gonzalez episode, selection of the sanctimonious Joe Lieberman as his running mate, didn't allow Clinton to campaign in FL, didn't focus hard enough in TN or WV, wrote off OH a month before the election when he ended up losing it by only 4 points).  And the 36 day post-election process by Gore et al is another matter altogether.  But looking back after 20 years, it's really amazing that Al Gore came as close as he did.

With that said, who do you think should've won but blew it?

I voted "None of these".  I think there have been others in the past 100+ years: of course Dewey in 1948 and probably Charles Evans Hughes in 1916.

But of this group, I believe that Kerry and Gore did better than expected.  Romney did no better than meet expectations or perhaps underperformed somewhat.
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Podgy the Bear
mollybecky
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2020, 01:01:33 PM »

To Battista's comments and questions:

1) I would say that Monicagate and the Clinton transgressions had significant impact on what happened in the 2000 election and cycles to come.  I often wonder what would have happened if Clinton had resigned in 1998--allowing Gore to be president and perhaps allowing him to consolidate his power with possible re-election in 2000 (and even in 2004).  I also wonder if 9/11 would have happened.

2) Regarding Hughes and the 1916 election--the Republicans were the majority party at that time and only lost in 1912 because of the Old Guard/Progressive Republican split.  The Republicans made a significant comeback in the 1914 elections and were dominant in the large EV states and the Northeast.  Woodrow Wilson did have unified Democratic support and did have rural and German-American support that year (which made him quite strong in much of the Midwest).

It's well documented that Hughes lost California (and therefore the election) because he supposedly snubbed Governor Hiram Johnson (who was TR's running mate in 1912 and was running for the Senate that year).  Johnson was quite popular in the state (and continued to be so until he died in 1945) and he won the Senate by nearly 300,000 votes (Hughes lost by 4,000 out a million).

Had Hughes pulled it out in California, he would have had an electoral vote majority despite losing the popular vote by over 3 points.  Additionally, he should have won normally Republican Ohio but antiwar sentiment swung the rural population behind Wilson. 

I wouldn't say Hughes blew it in 1916 (the way I think Dewey in 1948 and Hillary in 2016 did), but he had several advantages to win and did not capitalize on them.
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