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Question: Should party affiliation be removed from beside the candidates' names on ballots?
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John Dule
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« on: July 24, 2020, 10:57:30 PM »

I am very much for this. We should take away the easy shorthand we give to voters and force them to do a little extra research. Even if that research only amounts to Googling "Candidate X political party" and picking the one they like, that is a step in the right direction. In a best-case scenario, we get voters who actually take a minute to look into the candidates' positions, who might have otherwise simply filled in every bubble next to an "R" or a "D."
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John Dule
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2020, 11:28:05 PM »

No. One of the core and essential functions of political parties is that they help solve the problem of adverse selection. As a voter, you are expected to make a choice about what sort of policies you would like, without necessarily having perfect information. When you vote for a party candidate, you can generally be sure what the candidate stands for.

If they’re a Democratic candidate, they probably favor things like progressive taxation, environmental regulations, and affirmative action for minorities.

If they’re a Republican candidate, they probably favor lower taxes across the board, fewer regulations, and generally laissez faire economics and social policies.

Pretending parties don’t exist is like sticking your fingers in your ears and going, la la la. Pretending that groups of people with similar ideas won’t join up and form an organization to economize on campaign costs and advocate collectively for shared policy planks is ludicrous.

They are an inevitable outcome of virtually any representative democratic system and rather than fight them, it is critical that major and minor party candidates compete in a political system that is fair to all of them.

To be clear, I don't see this as "fighting" the parties. Rather, I see it as a way to avoid institutionalizing them. There is nothing about the parties in the constitution and we should avoid providing them with institutional recognition like this. When you vote in the United States, you are voting for a candidate-- not a party, as you do in the UK. When voting for an individual, their name is what matters. If a candidate wishes to include their party affiliation in the voter information guide, they are free to do so, and that will have the added bonus of guiding voters toward that resource.

We don't have to fight the parties, but at the same time, we don't have to make it this easy for them.
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John Dule
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2020, 05:13:32 PM »

That's wrong. Candidates (mostly) are not running independently, they run as parties' nominees. Who is nominating them should be written on the ballot.

And they're free to include that information in the pamphlet of positions and statements that comes with your ballot.
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John Dule
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2020, 11:27:33 PM »

That's wrong. Candidates (mostly) are not running independently, they run as parties' nominees. Who is nominating them should be written on the ballot.

And they're free to include that information in the pamphlet of positions and statements that comes with your ballot.

I wouldn't want any additional material coming with my ballot.

Well I'm not sure how it's done in Italy, but California absentee ballots always come with a voter information guide. I'm not sure what's wrong with that.
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John Dule
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2020, 01:41:53 PM »

And they're free to include that information in the pamphlet of positions and statements that comes with your ballot.
You do realize that most states do not do this, right? There is no pamphlet that comes with your ballot, and your ballot is not mailed to your home; you walk into your local church parish hall on Election Day, fill out your ballot and leave.

Yes, and states that don't do this should start.
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John Dule
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2020, 05:21:26 PM »


Seems like a win-win.
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