Utah 2020 Redistricting

[TML]

An effort at a 4R map.
No counties are split except for Salt Lake, and the most pro-D district voted for Trump by 13 in 2020. All districts are territorially connected.
https://davesredistricting.org/join/468ca472-dbd6-4b3b-9c47-13c48d77e541

So, in your opinion, do you think a rule prohibiting Salt Lake County from being split more than once (similar rules are in place in Ohio) would ensure a D-leaning district in this state?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

An effort at a 4R map.
No counties are split except for Salt Lake, and the most pro-D district voted for Trump by 13 in 2020. All districts are territorially connected.
https://davesredistricting.org/join/468ca472-dbd6-4b3b-9c47-13c48d77e541

So, in your opinion, do you think a rule prohibiting Salt Lake County from being split more than once (similar rules are in place in Ohio) would ensure a D-leaning district in this state?

D-leaning? Maybe not, it seems possible still to make an R-leaning district wholely within Salt Lake. But D-winnable? Absolutely. Such provisions would ensure Ds have a shot at least one CD, perhaps even 2.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://davesredistricting.org/join/50ec584d-54b4-4417-bfa1-1946758a22f9
This is what a GOPmander with Ohio-style rules would look like. Serious dummymander risk with a merely Trump+9 UT-04, and a marginally, slightly R-leaning CD that voted for Cox by 20 but Trump by only 3, and taking in everything in SLC minus SLC city and some neighboring safe Dem areas.


If you concede a district in SLC county instead, then you end up with the fair map Abdullah posted above.

[Oryxslayer]

https://twitter.com/LoganZT1/status/1429913706033553417?s=20

Interestingly, the map in the image appears to have a uber-blue SLC+Park City district.

[Nyvin]

https://twitter.com/LoganZT1/status/1429913706033553417?s=20

Interestingly, the map in the image appears to have a uber-blue SLC+Park City district.

Yeah, it also goes out to Uintah County in the eastern border,  weird map, but still outstanding for Dems if this actually happens (big if).

[ProgressiveModerate]

Lol they seem to have no clue what they're doing ngl. Seems like they're just like "oh lets take in this".

That UT-2 is kinda wack.

THEY CAN'T FIGURE HOW TO SAVE A COPY OF THE MAP lol.

[Nyvin]

Their map so far:

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[ProgressiveModerate]

Their map so far:

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I think Wasatch, Daggott, and Uintah all need to go to 4 while 3 takes in the rest of Utah County.

District 1 is nice but after that it gets a bit weird.

[BoiseBoy]

Why not just do something like this? UT-01 is north Utah. UT-02 is pretty much the southern half of the state. UT-03 is Provo/Orem/Lehi. UT-04 is entirely with Salt Lake County. Only two county splits.

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

Why not just do something like this? UT-01 is north Utah. UT-02 is pretty much the southern half of the state. UT-03 is Provo/Orem/Lehi. UT-04 is entirely with Salt Lake County. Only two county splits.

Your map looks lot like my map, lol.

https://davesredistricting.org/join/24ee48f1-118a-4298-8c08-46bf00a2c317

your map is 100x worse because it combines box elder and tooele

[Thunder98 🇮🇱 🤝 🇵🇸]

Why not just do something like this? UT-01 is north Utah. UT-02 is pretty much the southern half of the state. UT-03 is Provo/Orem/Lehi. UT-04 is entirely with Salt Lake County. Only two county splits.

Your map looks lot like my map, lol.

https://davesredistricting.org/join/24ee48f1-118a-4298-8c08-46bf00a2c317

your map is 100x worse because it combines box elder and tooele

lol,
I have the Wasatch front area to have there own districts, while the rest of the state be in one district.

[Oryxslayer]

Why not just do something like this? UT-01 is north Utah. UT-02 is pretty much the southern half of the state. UT-03 is Provo/Orem/Lehi. UT-04 is entirely with Salt Lake County. Only two county splits.

Your map looks lot like my map, lol.

https://davesredistricting.org/join/24ee48f1-118a-4298-8c08-46bf00a2c317

your map is 100x worse because it combines box elder and tooele

lol,
I have the Wasatch front area to have there own districts, while the rest of the state be in one district.

It's horrible because there is no road from Box Elder southwards. Its all salt flats. That county can only be paired with the eastern urban corridor.

[Thunder98 🇮🇱 🤝 🇵🇸]

Why not just do something like this? UT-01 is north Utah. UT-02 is pretty much the southern half of the state. UT-03 is Provo/Orem/Lehi. UT-04 is entirely with Salt Lake County. Only two county splits.

Your map looks lot like my map, lol.

https://davesredistricting.org/join/24ee48f1-118a-4298-8c08-46bf00a2c317

your map is 100x worse because it combines box elder and tooele

lol,
I have the Wasatch front area to have there own districts, while the rest of the state be in one district.

It's horrible because there is no road from Box Elder southwards. Its all salt flats. That county can only be paired with the eastern urban corridor.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for that advice so that I can improve my Utah maps.

[Nyvin]

Their maps are crazy, but at least they're intent on giving northern Salt Lake County it's own district or putting it with Summit and some small eastern rurals.    No crazy three way split.

[Storr]

Lol they seem to have no clue what they're doing ngl. Seems like they're just like "oh lets take in this".

That UT-2 is kinda wack.

THEY CAN'T FIGURE HOW TO SAVE A COPY OF THE MAP lol.

It's literally like watching your boomer parents using new computer programs.

[Nyvin]

The Green Team just maintained the current gerrymander more or less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNcBu8SLAZ8

[Stuart98]

The Green Team just maintained the current gerrymander more or less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNcBu8SLAZ8

The green team included former representative Rob Bishop, so it shouldn't be cause for surprise.

Though trying to do a least change that way actually would make Chris Stewart upset since he lives in Farmington and he's one of our reps who currently actually lives in his district.

As for the others, the thing about setting people who haven't used mapping software before loose is that they come up with Galaxy brain district ideas.

[patzer]

Tried making a map, and it feels like the obvious option is just having three seats in the vicinity of Salt Lake City and the fourth seat for the rest of Utah.

[Stuart98]

Tried making a map, and it feels like the obvious option is just having three seats in the vicinity of Salt Lake City and the fourth seat for the rest of Utah.

Not how communities of interest work. Logan and Brigham City have little connection to Vernal or Richfield or Cedar City or St. George or Tooele, but considerable ties to Ogden.

[Nyvin]

Tried making a map, and it feels like the obvious option is just having three seats in the vicinity of Salt Lake City and the fourth seat for the rest of Utah.

States rarely, if ever, do those "surround" districts with urban areas in the middle. 

Also northern Utah (Layton/Ogden/Logan area) really should have it's own district and not clumped in with the south.

[S019]

The Green Team just maintained the current gerrymander more or less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNcBu8SLAZ8

The green team included former representative Rob Bishop, so it shouldn't be cause for surprise.

Though trying to do a least change that way actually would make Chris Stewart upset since he lives in Farmington and he's one of our reps who currently actually lives in his district.

As for the others, the thing about setting people who haven't used mapping software before loose is that they come up with Galaxy brain district ideas.

Honestly if this map doesn't change, I wouldn't be too surprised if Republicans just use it to avoid overriding the commission.

[Stuart98]

The Green Team just maintained the current gerrymander more or less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNcBu8SLAZ8

The green team included former representative Rob Bishop, so it shouldn't be cause for surprise.

Though trying to do a least change that way actually would make Chris Stewart upset since he lives in Farmington and he's one of our reps who currently actually lives in his district.

As for the others, the thing about setting people who haven't used mapping software before loose is that they come up with Galaxy brain district ideas.

Honestly if this map doesn't change, I wouldn't be too surprised if Republicans just use it to avoid overriding the commission.

The commission drew 11 congressional maps and they'll submit no more (and no less) than three to the legislature. If they decide to adopt a map me or another user submits, that takes from those 3. It's possible this map makes it through just on account of being least changey but I wouldn't bet on it, especially since it's utter trash by all of the commission criteria except for preserving cores of prior districts.

[Stuart98]

The Independent Commission's draft maps are available on their website. Direct links:

• Congress
• State Senate
• State House
• State Board of Education

They're... kinda all weird/bad?

The state legislative redistricting committee won't publish any draft maps until they've concluded their public hearings, which begin this week.

As of yesterday, both the commission and the legislative committee have started accepting maps from the public. Links to submit maps are found here for the Independent Commission, and here for the legislative committee. If you export your DRA maps as block assignment CSVs, you should be able to import them into the ESRI redistricting software that both groups are using.

[BoiseBoy]

The Independent Commission's draft maps are available on their website. Direct links:

• Congress
• State Senate
• State House
• State Board of Education

They're... kinda all weird/bad?

The state legislative redistricting committee won't publish any draft maps until they've concluded their public hearings, which begin this week.

As of yesterday, both the commission and the legislative committee have started accepting maps from the public. Links to submit maps are found here for the Independent Commission, and here for the legislative committee. If you export your DRA maps as block assignment CSVs, you should be able to import them into the ESRI redistricting software that both groups are using.

Got my plan submitted. Is there any way to view submissions to the commission on their website?

[Stuart98]

The Independent Commission's draft maps are available on their website. Direct links:

• Congress
• State Senate
• State House
• State Board of Education

They're... kinda all weird/bad?

The state legislative redistricting committee won't publish any draft maps until they've concluded their public hearings, which begin this week.

As of yesterday, both the commission and the legislative committee have started accepting maps from the public. Links to submit maps are found here for the Independent Commission, and here for the legislative committee. If you export your DRA maps as block assignment CSVs, you should be able to import them into the ESRI redistricting software that both groups are using.

Got my plan submitted. Is there any way to view submissions to the commission on their website?

If you share your plan (which is from a different tab than the submit button) then others can view it within the ESRI software. Beyond that I'm not seeing anything.