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« on: July 20, 2020, 11:37:07 AM »

Cardinal Point Analytics
July 13-15
547 LV
MoE: 4.2%

Trump 49%
Biden 48%
Jorgensen 1%
Undecided 3%
https://cpapolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/NC_Poll_Results_2020-07-20.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2020, 11:38:16 AM »

Cunningham up 47.3 - 44.2 vs. Tillis.  
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2020, 11:42:14 AM »

Yea no
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2020, 11:46:11 AM »

Appears that this is a weekly tracking poll.

Edit: Also the Cooper +3 gives me pause. Throw it in the average I guess.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2020, 11:49:42 AM »

20% of Democrats voting for Trump?  Really?
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2020, 11:51:12 AM »

20% of Democrats voting for Trump?  Really?

North Carolina has alot of dixiecrats. Although, even in 2016, Trump only won 8% of them.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2020, 12:02:17 PM »

Is this a new poll? I guess it could be right but Cooper is winning by more than 3%.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2020, 12:04:34 PM »

Looking at the methodology, cell phone calls only make up 10% of the poll.  That might explain the relatively favorable result for Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2020, 12:04:39 PM »

Trying to gather information on this pollster but it seems quite vague. 538 added it to their database which probably means they were able to prove their data was legitimate? The only employee I can find for them (CardinalGPS) has worked for a couple GOP election campaigns and was a former intern for Steve King.
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2020, 12:12:19 PM »

Trump is winning whites by only 11.6%, while Biden is winning blacks by almost 80 points and Trump is winning overall by 1%? It looks like blacks were 10% of the sample or something like that, which is just absurd.
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2020, 12:16:56 PM »

North Carolina is probably going to be a bit to the right of MI, PA, WI, and FL, so it's not surprising to see an occasional narrow Trump lead here. Throw it in the average.
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2020, 12:51:55 PM »

In the words of Churchill, "throw it in the average."
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2020, 01:09:01 PM »

Lean R
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2020, 01:15:30 PM »

Doesn't include Kanye, trash it.
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2020, 01:22:44 PM »

Seems like this is not in line with national polls.
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2020, 02:03:16 PM »

Ugh, now we're going to lose that beautiful pink North Carolina on the Atlas polling average map thanks to this junk.
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2020, 02:04:38 PM »

Ugh, now we're going to lose that beautiful pink North Carolina on the Atlas polling average map thanks to this junk.

Petition to change Republican red and Democratic blue to Republican pink and Democratic lime green. 

Would make election night more groovy. 
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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2020, 02:56:03 PM »

Ugh, now we're going to lose that beautiful pink North Carolina on the Atlas polling average map thanks to this junk.

Petition to change Republican red and Democratic blue to Republican pink and Democratic lime green. 

Would make election night more groovy. 

Please no, red and blue are the eternal colors of election maps.
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2020, 02:58:40 PM »

Group is affiliated with the NC GOP. So really good result for Cunningham and means Biden is likely ahead
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2020, 03:21:51 PM »

Group is affiliated with the NC GOP. So really good result for Cunningham and means Biden is likely ahead

Wouldn't it be funny if their habit of telling themselves at all costs that everything is good and making up data to make themselves believe it has carried over to poling?
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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2020, 05:55:03 PM »

Maybe it's my low expectations for this state, but I'm fine with this. It still indicates that it's more competitive than ever at the presidential level. That alone is significant.

Also I guess "remember February" isn't a great campaign theme for Tillis.
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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2020, 06:36:48 PM »
« Edited: July 20, 2020, 06:47:18 PM by Monstro »

Ugh, now we're going to lose that beautiful pink North Carolina on the Atlas polling average map thanks to this junk.

Petition to change Republican red and Democratic blue to Republican pink and Democratic lime green.  

Would make election night more groovy.  

Please no, red and blue are the eternal colors of election maps.

I think she was, what the kids call, "just kidding". Although I'd certainly entertain the thought
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2020, 10:35:06 PM »

20% of Democrats voting for Trump?  Really?

North Carolina has alot of dixiecrats. Although, even in 2016, Trump only won 8% of them.

20% vs 8% is a huge huge difference. Dixiecrats, as the term is defined, mostly died 10 plus years ago.
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« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2020, 11:56:16 PM »

I think this „pollster“ is fake.

Their website looks fake, with no information on it and only a PDF with topline numbers that anyone could create.
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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2020, 12:00:12 AM »

Cunningham up 47.3 - 44.2 vs. Tillis.  


Wow, Tillis is underperforming by a lot. Otoh, I wonder if the undecideds in the Senate race will swing to him at the end, given Cunningham is actually slightly under Biden's number and it seems like a lot of Trump voters are undecided. The poll does seem to suggest this as only 0.7% of Republicans are undecided for President but 6.8% of Republicans are undecided for Senate (interestingly, 4.0% of Democrats are undecided for President and 5.8% are undecided for Senate).
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