How would you have voted in previous Atlasian presidential elections?

[bgwah]

I agree to an extent, but the simple fact of the matter is that while the election restored a semblance of ideological politics, the RPP and the JCP were hardly militantly ideological parties. Also this degraded substantially in the last year as the JCP was courting Populares and the RPP was courting ex-UDLers.

Big tent parties like that are always going to have somewhat vague ideologies, in real life or here. But I was militant in my partisanship. Your JCP-turned-UDL-turned-RPP candidate for NE Senate lost in a stunning upset, from what I recall.

[bgwah]

You focus on how it strengthened the JCP. What about how it strengthened the RPP? Why wasn't it just another throw-away right-wing party that died after 6 months? What would have happened if it had not allied with the JCP - it would have been eliminated before the final round and had all its votes flow to the boring predictable centrist? Instead, it flexed its muscle in that election and helped overturn centrist-domination. The RPP solidified itself as one of Atlasia's two major parties at that point.  And with centrists scattered, the RPP absorbed a lot of the more right and libertarian-leaning ones, growing substantially in size. The Lief vs Pit election was essentially a tie, so I would say we did a good job splitting the forum politically in half, which nobody else had been able to do.

The RPP had coalesced the right in late 2008 because of the work of PiT's recruitment efforts and the dropping of secession from the platform.

The RPP would not gain substantially among center-right types until the DA collapsed in 2010, which occurred after the DA had won the Presidency, twice!

Yuck. Don't remind me of the DA.

I will give Purple State credit for being possibly the only player to have bested me. I did not want to support him for President, but he forced me to. Bastard!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I agree to an extent, but the simple fact of the matter is that while the election restored a semblance of ideological politics, the RPP and the JCP were hardly militantly ideological parties. Also this degraded substantially in the last year as the JCP was courting Populares and the RPP was courting ex-UDLers.

Big tent parties like that are always going to have somewhat vague ideologies, in real life or here. But I was militant in my partisanship. Your JCP-turned-UDL-turned-RPP candidate for NE Senate lost in a stunning upset, from what I recall.

And he went on to win the Midwest Senate seat by 2-1 four months later. Which guess what, turned out to be the natural base for the anti-JCP leftists/centrists and loonies. Who'd thought?

Compared to the NE, which had a right largely composed of Populares and a left recruited by you and Napoleon. Throw in that Napoleon turned out to be Hamilton (founder of the Populares) = NE becomes JCP Solid.

You focus on how it strengthened the JCP. What about how it strengthened the RPP? Why wasn't it just another throw-away right-wing party that died after 6 months? What would have happened if it had not allied with the JCP - it would have been eliminated before the final round and had all its votes flow to the boring predictable centrist? Instead, it flexed its muscle in that election and helped overturn centrist-domination. The RPP solidified itself as one of Atlasia's two major parties at that point.  And with centrists scattered, the RPP absorbed a lot of the more right and libertarian-leaning ones, growing substantially in size. The Lief vs Pit election was essentially a tie, so I would say we did a good job splitting the forum politically in half, which nobody else had been able to do.

The RPP had coalesced the right in late 2008 because of the work of PiT's recruitment efforts and the dropping of secession from the platform.

The RPP would not gain substantially among center-right types until the DA collapsed in 2010, which occurred after the DA had won the Presidency, twice!

Yuck. Don't remind me of the DA.

I will give Purple State credit for being possibly the only player to have bested me. I did not want to support him for President, but he forced me to. Bastard!

That just breaks my heart.

[YE]

June 2018 - Yankee
February 2018 - Voted fhtagn at the time. Spiral in hindsight.
October 2017 - Truman though could have gone Wells
June 2017 - dfw
February 2017 - Nev
October 2016 - Blair probably
June 2016 - Truman
February 2016 - Adam Griffin
October 2015 - Adam Griffin
June 2015 - Bore
February 2015 - Bore
October 2014 - Marokai but could go either way here
June 2014 - DemPGH
February 2014 - Duke
October 2013 - Cynic
June 2013 - Nix
February 2013 - Marokai Blue
October 2012 - Snowstalker
June 2012 - Clarence
February 2012 - Barnes
October 2011 - Snowguy
June 2011 - Polnut
February 2011 - tmth but this was a long time ago and ugh I’ll stop here

[sentinel]

I clearly made sh**t interesting

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

Actual Votes (no regrets)
February 2019: Tmthforu94/LumineVonReuental
October 2018: North Carolina Yankee/Dfwlibertylover
June 2018: North Carolina Yankee/Dfwlibertylover
February 2018: Fhtagn/PiT
October 2017: Fhtagn/PiT

Hypothetical Votes (the further back, the harder it is to decide for the most part)
June 2017: Dfwlibertylover/Goldwater
February 2017: Dfwlibertylover/Goldwater
October 2016: North Carolina Yankee/Rpryor03
June 2016: Leinad/LumineVonReuental
February 2016: Leinad/Cris
October 2015: Cris/Homelycooking
June 2015: Dkrolga/JoMCaR (Altsomn J. Stmarken)
February 2015: JCL/Devin 2nd pref: Maxwell/Dallasfan
October 2014: LumineVonReuental/Sjoyce
June 2014: Sirnick/Dallasfan
February 2014: AHDuke99/MattVT
October 2013: AHDuke99/MattVT
June 2013: MattVT/Maxwell
February 2013: Cathcon/Spamage
October 2012: Jbrase/North Carolina Yankee Final Round: Snowstalker/Redalgo
June 2012: Clarence/Yelnoc
February 2012: ZuWo/Jbrase
October 2011: AHDuke99/Cincinnatus
June 2011: Teddy/Mechaman
February 2011: Tmthforu94/Dallasfan
October 2010: AndrewCT/AHDuke99
June 2010: RosettaStoned/Useful Idiot
February 2010: Afleitch/Smid
October 2009: PiT/Smid
June 2009: PiT/HappyWarrior
February 2009: DWTL/North Carolina Yankee 2nd pref: bgwah/Meeker
October 2008: bgwah/Meeker
June 2008: Ernest/BaconKing 2nd pref: Mr. Moderate/Ebowed
February 2008: KeystonePhil/Ebowed
October 2007: Colin Wixted/Jas
June 2007: Brandon H/Wildcard
February 2007: Keystone Phil/Speed of Sound 2nd pref: Mike Naso (Reaganfan)/Inks.LWC Final Round: Afleitch/Yates
October 2006: Brandon H/Brandon W
June 2006: True Democrat/Supersoulty
February 2006: John Ford/True Democrat
October 2005: Supersoulty/Frodo Final Round: Joe Republic/Defarge
June 2005: Supersoulty/WMS 2nd pref: Keystone Phil/MHS2002
February 2005: KEmperor/Alcon
October 2004: Nation/King 2nd pref: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
June 2004: Gustaf/Supersoulty
February 2004: Supersoulty/DemRepDan

[YE]

February 2019 - YE
October 2018 - Voted WB at the time. Undecided in hindsight.
June 2018 - Yankee
February 2018 - Voted fhtagn at the time. Spiral in hindsight.
October 2017 - Truman though could have gone Wells
June 2017 - dfw
February 2017 - Nev
October 2016 - Blair probably
June 2016 - Truman
February 2016 - Adam Griffin
October 2015 - Adam Griffin
June 2015 - Bore
February 2015 - Bore
October 2014 - Lumine
June 2014 - DemPGH
February 2014 - Duke
October 2013 - Duke
June 2013 - Nix
February 2013 - Marokai Blue
October 2012 - Snowstalker
June 2012 - Clarence
February 2012 - Barnes
October 2011 - Snowguy
June 2011 - Polnut
February 2011 - tmth but this was a long time ago and ugh I’ll stop here

Updated. I gotta say this is hard to do because I'm not sure what without hindsight would mean as an officeholder since one actually would have had a chance to meaningfully alter history.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Feb 2015     Bore/Bacon King (Labor–TPP)
Jun 2015     Bore/Averroes Nix (Labor–TPP)*
Oct 2015     Adam Griffin/Duke (Labor–TPP)
Feb 2016     Adam Griffin/Duke (Labor–Independent)
Jun 2016     Harry S Truman/Kalwejt (Labor)
Oct 2016     Blair/Kingpoleon (Labor–UA)
Feb 2017     NeverAgain/Southern Gothic (Labor)
Jun 2017     Clyde/Siren (Labor–Independent)
Oct 2017     Arthur of Britain/Lancelot du Lac (write-in)
Feb 2018     Lumine Von Reuental/Siren (write-in)
Jun 2018     LumineVonReuental/Siren (Alliance–Peace)
Oct 2018     Weatherboy/MB (Labor)
Feb 2019     YE/Jimmy (Peace–Labor)

*Dkrol/Altsomn Stmarken (CR–Federalist) with hindsight

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Feb 2015     Bore/Bacon King (Labor–TPP)
Jun 2015     Bore/Averroes Nix (Labor–TPP)*
Oct 2015     Adam Griffin/Duke (Labor–TPP)
Feb 2016     Adam Griffin/Duke (Labor–Independent)
Jun 2016     Harry S Truman/Kalwejt (Labor)
Oct 2016     Blair/Kingpoleon (Labor–UA)
Feb 2017     NeverAgain/Southern Gothic (Labor)
Jun 2017     Clyde/Siren (Labor–Independent)
Oct 2017     Arthur of Britain/Lancelot du Lac (write-in)
Feb 2018     Lumine Von Reuental/Siren (write-in)
Jun 2018     LumineVonReuental/Siren (Alliance–Peace)
Oct 2018     Weatherboy/MB (Labor)
Feb 2019     YE/Jimmy (Peace–Labor)

*Dkrol/Altsomn Stmarken (CR–Federalist) with hindsight

Didn't you write a bunch of people in, before Clyde?

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Feb 2004: Nym
Jun 2004: Nym under my current persona, Gustaf under my old persona
Oct 2004: Harry
Feb 2005: K Emperor
Jun 2005: Siege40
Oct 2005: Emsworth
Feb 2006: Ebowed under my current persona, John Ford under my old persona
Jun 2006: Ebowed under my current persona, True Dem under my old persona
Oct 2006: Al
Feb 2007: Tweed
Jun 2007: ColinW under my current persona, BrandonH under my old persona
Oct 2007: ColinW
Feb 2008: Sensei under my current persona, Phil under my old persona
Jun 2008: Mr. Mod.
Oct 2008: Bgwah
Feb 2009: Bgwah under my current persona, AndrewCT under my old persona
Jun 2009: Lief under my current persona, PiT under my old persona
Oct 2009: See Jun 2009
Feb 2010: Bacon King
Jun 2010: Purple State
Oct 2010: Fritz
Feb 2011: Tmth
Jun 2011: Polnut
Oct 2011: Duke
Feb 2012: Polnut
Jun 2012: Napoleon under my current persona, Clarence under my old persona
Oct 2012: SnowStalker under my current persona, Napoleon under my old persona
Feb 2013: Marokai under my current persona, Cathcon under my old persona
Jun 2013: Averroes
Oct 2013: Duke
Feb 2014: Duke
Jun 2014: DemPGH under my current persona, Sirnick under my old persona
Oct 2014: Marokai under my current persona, Poirot under my old persona

-------Joined Game---------

Feb 2015: I voted for Maxwell. I regret this vote, and would vote for Bore if the election was held today.
Jun 2015: I voted for Dkrolga, and stand by this vote.
Oct 2015: In the best game decision I have ever made, I voted for Griffin.
Feb 2016: I voted for Leinad, and stand by this vote.
Jun 2016: I voted for Leinad, and stand by this vote.
Oct 2016: I voted for Blair both times, and stand by this vote.
Feb 2017: I voted for Doof, and stand by this vote.
Jun 2017: I voted for Doof, and stand by this vote.
Oct 2017: I voted for Fhtagn. I regret this vote, and would vote for Truman if the election was held today.
Feb 2018: I voted for Pericles, and stand by this vote.
Jun 2018: I voted for NCY, and stand by this vote.
Oct 2018: I voted for NCY. I regret this vote, and would vote for Weatherboy if the election was held today.

-----------Persona Switch----------

Feb 2019: Tmth

[Sestak]

2/04: Nym90/Harry (AFDNC)
6/04: Nym90/Al (AFDNC)
10/04: Harry/Akno21 (AFDNC)
2/05: Lewis Trondheim/True Democrat (UL-AFDNC)
6/05: Siege40/Emsworth (ILP)
10/05: LiberalPA/Skybridge (SDP)                                Final round: Joe Republic/Defarge (Ind.-ILP)
2/06: Ebowed/Q (ILP-Ind.)
6/06: WI: Everett/TexasGurl (Ind.)                              Final Round: Ebowed/Q (PCP-Ind.)
10/06: Al/Doctor Cynic (ASP-SDP)
2/07: ilikeverin/Lewis Trondheim (AMRLP-IDPA)            Final Round: Tweed/Ebowed (ILP-JCP)
6/07: Everett/Tik (PLP-JLFPLPP)                                  Final Round: Colin Wixted/Jas (Rad-Ind.)
10/07: WI: Polnut/Speed of Sound (PLP-P!atD)
2/08: Sensei/Rockefeller Republican (PLP)
6/08: Sensei/Meekermariner (PLP)
10/08: EarlAW/Al (SDP)
2/09: EarlAW/Lief (SDP)                                             Final round: Bgwah/Meeker (JCP-RPP)
6/09: Lief/Bacon King (JCP)
10/09: Lief/Bacon King (JCP)
2/10: Bacon King/HappyWarrior (JCP-DA)
6/10: Purple State/Marokai Blue (DA-JCP)
10/10: Fritz/Kalwejt (JCP)
2/11: Ben/Ogis (UDL)                                                 Final round: Tmthforu/Dallasfan (RPP-POP) or abstain
6/11: Polnut/Bacon King (JCP)
10/11: Snowguy/Bacon King (JCP)
2/12: Barnes/Winston (Lab)                                        Final Round: Polnut/Tmthforu (Lib-Mod)
6/12: Tweed/Bgwah (Com-ELP)                                   Final round: Clarence/Yelnoc (Whig-IB)
10/12: Snowstalker/Redalgo (Lab)
2/13: Marokai Blue/Duke (Lab-TPP)
6/13: Nix/DemPGH (Lab-Lib)
10/13: Dr. Cynic/Adam Griffin (Lab)
2/14: Duke/MattVT (Fed)
6/14: DemPGH/Windjammer (Lab)
10/14: Marokai Blue/Antonio (Lab)
2/15: Bore/Bacon King (Lab-TPP)
6/15: Dkrol/Stmarken (CR-Fed)
10/15: Adam Griffin/Duke (Lab-TPP)
2/16: Adam Griffin/Duke (Lab)
6/16: Truman/Kalwejt (Lab)
10/16: Blair/Kingpoleon (Lab-UA)
2/17: Maxwell/Smilo (Com-HFP)                                 Final Round: Never Again/Southern Gothic (Lab)
6/17: Bacon King/Ben Kenobi (HFP-ACP)
10/17: Truman/Scott (Lab)
2/18: Spiral/Adam Griffin (All-Lab)                              Final Round: Pericles/Mike Wells (PUP-Pax) or abstain
6/18: Lumine/Siren (All-Pax)
10/18: WI: Mike Wells/Razze (Lab-Pax)                       Final Round: Weatherboy/MB (Lab)
2/19: YE/Jimmy (Pax-Lab)
6/19: Adam Griffin/Jimmy (Lab)

Finally got around to this.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Jesus, I completely forgot I ran with Adam. Incredible

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Jesus, I completely forgot I ran with Adam. Incredible

Three years, and we haven't been able to top that ticket.

[Continential]

• 2/04: Nym90/Harry
• 6/04: Nym90/Harry
• 10/04: Harry/Akno21
• 2/05: John Engle/John Engle Final Round: Lewis Trondheim/True Democrat
• 6/05: Harry/Porce Final Round: Siege40/Emsworth
• 10/05: Joe Republic/Defarge
• 2/06: Harry/Porce Final Round: Siege40/Emsworth
• 6/06: True Democrat/Supersoulty
• 10/06: Al/Dr. Cynic
• 2/07: afleitch/Yates
• 6/07: Collin Wixted/Jas
• 10/07: Polnut/Speed of Sound
• 2/08: Sensei/Rockefeller Republican
• 6/08: Sensei/Meeker
• 10/08: EarlAW/Al
• 2/09: AndrewCT/Afleitch
• 6/09: PiT/HappyWarrior
• 10/09: Franzl/Swedish Cheese Final Round: PiT/Smid
• 2/10: Xahar/Al Final Round: Afleitch/Smid
• 6/10: yougo Final Round: Purple State/Marokai Blue
• 10/10: AndrewCT/Duke
• 2/11: Benconstine/ogis Final Round: tmthforu94/Dallasfan64
• 6/11: Teddy/Mechaman
• 10/11: Winfield/JBrase Final Round: AHDuke99/Cincinnatus
• 2/12: Barnes/Winston Disraeli Final Round: Polnut/tmthforu94
• 6/12: Oakvale/Cincinnatus Final Round: Clarence/Yelnoc
• 10/12: JBrase/North Carolina Yankee Final Round: Exhausted
• 2/13: Kalwejt/Wolfentoad Final Round: Marokai Blue/AHDuke99
• 6/13: Averroës Nix/DemPGH
• 10/13: Lumine/Superique Final Round: Dr. Cynic/Adam Griffin
• 2/14: Duke/Matt from VT
• 6/14: DemPGH/Windjammer
• 10/14: Poirot/shua Final Round: Lumine/SJoyce
• 2/15: Bore/Bacon King
• 6/15: DKrol/JoMCaR
• 10/15: Adam Griffin/AHDuke99
• 2/16: Winfield/Poirot Final Round: Adam Griffin/AHDuke99
• 6/16: Harry S Truman/Kalwejt
• 10/16: North Carolina Yankee/R. Pryor
• 2/17: NeverAgain/Southern Gothic
• 6/17: Clyde1998/Siren
• 10/17: Lumine/R. Pyror
• 2/18: Spiral/Adam Griffin Final Round: Pericles/Mike Wells
• 6/18: Lumine/Siren
• 10/18: weatherboy1102/MB
• 2/19: YE/Jimmy7812
• 6/19: Adam Griffin/Jimmy7812
• 10/19: Adam Griffin/Pericles
• 2/20: KoopaDaQuick/ReaganClinton
• 6/20: HCP/Ted Bessell Final Round: Exhausted
• 10/20: Ninja/LouisvilleThunder

Have been working on this for the last couple weeks.

Edit: Since tack added a party section I'll do it.

2004: Progressive
2005-2007: Independent Labor Party
2008: Progressive Liberal Party
2008-2009: Social Democratic Party
2009-2010: Democratic Alliance
2010-2011: Union of the Democratic Left
2011-2012: Regional Protection Party
2012-2013: Labor
2013-2014: Progressive Union
2014-2015: Federalist
2015: Civic Renewal
2015-2018: Labor

[Former President tack50]

My guess, and assuming I am somehow an independent zombie that pays enough attention to the game but votes independently from party machines. This is also all on hindsight and knowing how the people are today; particularly in the case of people who have been on Atlas for a long time:

Feb 04: Nym90 (Dem)
Jun 04: Gustaf (UAC)
Oct 04: Harry (Dem)
Feb 05: Al (FL) -> Lewis Trondheim (SDP)
Jun 05: Harry (FL) -> Siege40 (ILP)
Oct 05: Emsworth (ILP)
Feb 06: Ebowed (ILP)
Jun 06: Ebowed (PCP)
Oct 06: Al (SDP)
Feb 07: Tweed (ILP)
Jun 07: Everett (PLP) -> Colin W (Rad)
Oct 07: Write-in Polnut (PLP)
Feb 08: Sensei (PLP)
Jun 08: Sensei (PLP)
Oct 08: bgwah (JCP)
Feb 09: bgwah (JCP)
Jun 09: Lief (JCP)
Oct 09: Lief (JCP)
Feb 10: Bacon King (JCP)
Jun 10: Purple State (DA)
Oct 10: Fritz (JCP)
Feb 11: tmthforu94 (RPP)
Jun 11: Polnut (JCP)
Oct 11: Snowguy (JCP)
Feb 12: Polnut (Lib)
Jun 12: Napoleon (Lib)
Oct 12: Napoleon (Lib)
Feb 13: Kalwejt (JEP)
Jun 13: Averroes Nix (Lab)
Oct 13: Lumine (Pro)
Feb 14: Duke (Fed)
Jun 14: DemPGH (Lab)
Oct 14: Marokai (Lab)
Feb 15: Bore (Lab)
Jun 15: DKrolga (CR)
Oct 15: Adam Griffin (Lab)
Feb 16: Adam Griffin (Lab)
Jun 16: Truman (Lab)
Oct 16: Blair (Lab)
Feb 17: NeverAgain (Lab)
Jun 17: Clyde1998 (Lab)
Oct 17: Truman (Lab)
Feb 18: Pericles (PUP)
Jun 18: Lumine (All)
Oct 18: NC Yankee (Fed)

(I join Atlasia here)

Feb 19: tmthforu94 (Fed)
Jun 19: Adam Griffin (Lab)
Oct 19: Adam Griffin (Lab)
Feb 20: Pericles (Lab)
Jun 20: Pericles (Lab)
Oct 20: MB (Lab)


My guess in terms of party affiliation
2004: Democratic
2005: Farmer Labor
2005-2007: ILP
2007-2008: PLP
2008-2010: JCP
2011: Independent (JCP leaning)
2012-2013: Liberal
2013-2014: Independent
2014-2017: Labor
2018: PUP
2019-present: Labor

[S019]

Actual votes (and hindsight)

October 2020: MB/TedBessell (MB/TedBessell)

June 2020: Pericles/jk2020 (Pericles/jk2020)

February 2020: Pericles/Peanut (Pericles/Peanut)

October 2019: Adam Griffin/Pericles (Adam Griffin/Pericles)

June 2019: TexasConservative/vern1998 (Adam Griffin/Jimmy7812)

Votes when I was not in the game (all with hindsight)

February 2019: YE/Jimmy7812

October 2018: weatherboy1102/MB298

June 2018: LumineVonReunthal/Siren

February 2018: Pericles/Mike Wells

October 2017: Harry S. Truman/Scott (Final round: Lumine Von Reunthal/Rpryor)

June 2017: dfwlibertylover/Goldwater

February 2017: NeverAgain/SouthernGothic

October 2016: Blair2015/Kingpoleon

June 2016: Harry S. Truman/Kalwejt

February 2016: Adam Griffin/AH Duke

October 2015: Adam Griffin/AH Duke

June 2015: DKrol/A.J. Stmarken

Feb 2015: Bore/Bacon King

October 2014: Lumine/Donerail

June 2014: DemPGH/Windjammer

February 2014: AHDuke/MattfromVT

October 2013: Dr. Cynic/Adam Griffin

June 2013: Averroes Nix/DemPGH

February 2013: Marokai Blue/AH Duke

October 2012: Napoleon/Nathan

and I'll stop here as this ends the current party system

[S019]

June 2014: Sirnick/DallasFan65

Sirnick and Dallasfan legalized incest and porn for children and were radical social libertarians, so you might reconsider it.

Yikes.... yeah legalizing incest is very bad

[DKrol]

If the Flo/PiT write-in campaign hadn't emerged at the 11th hour (I think), I really think I would have won the June '15 election.

And what a wild ride that would have been for us all.