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« Reply #175 on: August 16, 2020, 04:21:27 PM »
« edited: August 16, 2020, 08:06:40 PM by dw93 »
1. Lincoln
2. FDR
3. Washington
4. Truman
5. Theodore Roosevelt
6. Monroe
7. Eisenhower
8. Jefferson
9. L. Johnson
10. Polk
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« Reply #176 on: August 16, 2020, 06:09:58 PM »
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt
2. Harry S. Truman
3. Abraham Lincoln
4. Lyndon B. Johnson
5. George Washington
6. Bill Clinton
7. Theodore Roosevelt
8. Woodrow Wilson
9. Thomas Jefferson
10. Dwight D. Eisenhower
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« Reply #177 on: August 16, 2020, 06:38:37 PM »
Guys, you have to pick ten from the list in the op.  If you pick Madison or Wilson you are throwing your vote away.  Atlas consensus is that they have no chance to make the top ten.
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« Reply #178 on: August 16, 2020, 08:06:51 PM »
Quote from: GeneralMacArthur on August 16, 2020, 06:38:37 PM
Guys, you have to pick ten from the list in the op.  If you pick Madison or Wilson you are throwing your vote away.  Atlas consensus is that they have no chance to make the top ten.
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« Reply #179 on: August 17, 2020, 07:34:41 AM »
Washington
Lincoln
Eisenhower
F. Roosevelt
Jefferson
T. Roosevelt
Polk
L. Johnson
Monroe
Truman
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« Reply #180 on: August 17, 2020, 10:13:40 AM »
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Abraham Lincoln
Harry S. Truman
Lyndon B. Johnson
George Washington
Theodore Roosevelt
Barack Obama
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Ulysses S. Grant
Jimmy Carter
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« Reply #181 on: August 17, 2020, 11:12:16 AM »
1. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. George Washington
4. Theodore Roosevelt
5. Harry S Truman
6. Ulysses S. Grant
7. Barack Obama
8. Dwight Eisenhower
9. Thomas Jefferson
10. James Monroe
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« Reply #182 on: August 17, 2020, 01:49:21 PM »
Literally LOL at Jimmy Carter making it into this final list before Ronald Reagan ... that is some truly historic irony and a joke, haha.

1. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)
2. George Washington (NP-VA)
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D-NY)
4. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)
5. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-KS)
6. James Monroe (DR-VA)
7. Thomas Jefferson (DR-VA)
8. James K. Polk (D-TN)
9. Harry S. Truman (D-MO)
10. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)

Obviously, my own top ten rankings would have to include people like Reagan (probably in at #8), McKinley and (though I dislike both) probably Jackson and Wilson.
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« Reply #183 on: August 17, 2020, 01:56:36 PM »
Quote from: RINO Tom on August 17, 2020, 01:49:21 PM
Literally LOL at Jimmy Carter making it into this final list before Ronald Reagan ... that is some truly historic irony and a joke, haha.


Atlas librul bias plz

As I already noted James Garfield also made it before William McKinley and even though I strongly contributed to that, I will admit it is hilarious.
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« Reply #184 on: August 17, 2020, 02:20:07 PM »
Quote from:   on August 17, 2020, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: RINO Tom on August 17, 2020, 01:49:21 PM
Literally LOL at Jimmy Carter making it into this final list before Ronald Reagan ... that is some truly historic irony and a joke, haha.


Atlas librul bias plz

As I already noted James Garfield also made it before William McKinley and even though I strongly contributed to that, I will admit it is hilarious.

Yeah, I am a neutral arbiter right now but I'm pumped to reveal my own rankings after this project is completed as well as some less neutral commentary on the rankings.  Atlas' high opinions of Jimmy Carter and Ulysses S. Grant will get their day in court, as will Atlas' low opinions of our expansionist presidents (Jackson, Polk, McKinley).

Ulysses S. Grant is currently tied with Thomas Jefferson as the 8th-best president according to Atlas.  You guys veto the Jackson administration over the Trail of Tears but put the guy who launched the Great Sioux War up there with the founding fathers.
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« Reply #185 on: August 17, 2020, 09:21:15 PM »
Imagine thinking it is possible to have an "objective" opinion of Ronald Reagan less than twenty years after the man died. This entire exercise is arbitrary and silly (though enjoyable), so I don't know why some people are pretending there is an inherently correct order outside of maybe the top three.
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« Reply #186 on: August 18, 2020, 09:33:33 AM »
I'm not a fan of Reagan mainly due to his economic policies.
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« Reply #187 on: August 18, 2020, 11:00:25 AM »
« Edited: August 18, 2020, 11:43:13 AM by HenryWallaceVP »
1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Franklin D. Roosevelt
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. Lyndon B. Johnson
5. Ulysses S. Grant
6. George Washington
7. Barack Obama
8. Harry S. Truman
9. Dwight D. Eisenhower
10. James Garfield
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« Reply #188 on: August 18, 2020, 11:34:55 AM »
Quote from: Unconditional Surrender Truman on August 17, 2020, 09:21:15 PM
Imagine thinking it is possible to have an "objective" opinion of Ronald Reagan less than twenty years after the man died. This entire exercise is arbitrary and silly (though enjoyable), so I don't know why some people are pretending there is an inherently correct order outside of maybe the top three.

I mean, agree to disagree.
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« Reply #189 on: August 18, 2020, 03:05:49 PM »
1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Franklin D. Roosevelt
3. George Washington
4. Ulysses S. Grant
5. Lyndon B. Johnson
6. Woodrow Wilson
7. Ronald W. Reagan
8. Harry S. Truman
9. Barack H. Obama
10. William J. Clinton
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« Reply #190 on: August 18, 2020, 07:17:18 PM »
1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
3. George Washington
4. Barack Obama
5. Ronald Reagan
6. Dwight Eisenhower
7. Theodore Roosevelt
8. James K. Polk
9. Lyndon B. Johnson
10. Harry S. Truman
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« Reply #191 on: August 19, 2020, 01:14:21 AM »
1. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
2. Thomas Jefferson
3. Abraham Lincoln
4. Theodore Roosevelt
5. George Washington
6. James Garfield
7. James Monroe
8. Lyndon B. Johnson
9. Barack Obama
10. Ulysses S. Grant
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« Reply #192 on: August 20, 2020, 04:05:37 PM »
Quote from: RINO Tom on August 18, 2020, 11:34:55 AM
Quote from: Unconditional Surrender Truman on August 17, 2020, 09:21:15 PM
Imagine thinking it is possible to have an "objective" opinion of Ronald Reagan less than twenty years after the man died. This entire exercise is arbitrary and silly (though enjoyable), so I don't know why some people are pretending there is an inherently correct order outside of maybe the top three.

I mean, agree to disagree.

Really the only way you can judge Reagan at the moment is on ideological grounds: do you think his social and economic policies were beneficial or detrimental to the USA? Stuff about “leadership” is vague and wishy-washy; the main way good leadership manifests itself is through imaginative and effective policy, which I would argue Reagan did not have.
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« Reply #193 on: August 22, 2020, 03:45:36 PM »
1. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Harry S. Truman
4. George Washington
5. Theodore Roosevelt
6. Dwight D. Eisenhower
7. Barack Obama
8. Thomas Jefferson
9. Lyndon B. Johnson
10. James Monroe

11. William Howard Taft
12. Ulysses S. Grant
13. Bill Clinton
14. Zachary Taylor
15. James Garfield
16. Jimmy Carter
17. James K. Polk
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« Reply #194 on: August 22, 2020, 04:47:44 PM »
Abraham Lincoln
George Washington
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Zachary Taylor
Theodore Roosevelt
William Howard Taft
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
James Monroe
Jimmy Carter
James Garfield
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« Reply #195 on: August 22, 2020, 07:49:28 PM »
Here are my rankings for all US Presidents (I exclude William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, and James Garfield because they were in office for only a very short period of time):

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Franklin Roosevelt
3. Barack Obama
4. George Washington
5. Theodore Roosevelt
6. Thomas Jefferson
7. Dwight Eisenhower
8. Harry Truman
9. John F. Kennedy
10. Ronald Reagan
11. Lyndon Johnson
12. Ulysses Grant
13. Jimmy Carter
14. Woodrow Wilson
15. Grover Cleveland
16. Bill Clinton
17. James Monroe
18. James Madison
19. John Quincy Adams
20. John Adams
21. George H.W. Bush
22. William Howard Taft
23. Gerald Ford
24. George W. Bush
25. William McKinely
26. Rutherford B. Hayes
27. Benjamin Harrison
28. Chester Arthur
29. Calvin Coolidge
30. James Polk
31. Richard Nixon
32. Martin Van Buren
33. Andrew Jackson
34. Warren Harding
35. Millard Filmore
36. John Tyler
37. Herbert Hoover
38. Andrew Johnson
39. Franklin Pierce
40. James Buchanan
41. Donald Trump
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« Reply #196 on: August 22, 2020, 08:43:36 PM »
Quote from: MATTROSE94 on August 22, 2020, 07:49:28 PM
I exclude William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, and James Garfield

I mean, according to just this round of rankings, Atlas thinks two of those men were better presidents than Bill Clinton.
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« Reply #197 on: August 22, 2020, 09:13:07 PM »
tara gilesbie, can you rank your top ten from the set highlighted in the OP?  That is the only ranking that is currently impacting anything.
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« Reply #198 on: August 22, 2020, 09:49:31 PM »
Quote from: GeneralMacArthur on August 22, 2020, 09:13:07 PM
tara gilesbie, can you rank your top ten from the set highlighted in the OP?  That is the only ranking that is currently impacting anything.

Okay.

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Ulysses Grant
3. George Washington
4. Dwight Eisenhower
5. Lyndon Johnson
6. Zachary Taylor
7. Franklin Roosevelt
8. James Monroe
9. James K. Polk (being "objective" with this one. My home wouldn't exist without the Oregon Treaty)
10. Thomas Jefferson (peaceful transfer of parties was important)
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« Reply #199 on: August 23, 2020, 02:21:03 AM »
Your TOP TEN are in the OP.

Now it is time to pick the next tier.  Rank your top ten of these twenty men.  THESE ARE NOT THE TOP TEN PRESIDENTS.  These are the candidates for 11-20.

Week 7:  The second tier (top ten)
James Monroe
Zachary Taylor
James K. Polk
James Garfield
Bill Clinton
William Howard Taft
Jimmy Carter
Gerald Ford
George H.W. Bush
John Quincy Adams
James Madison
Chester A. Arthur
William McKinley
John Adams
William Henry Harrison
Ronald Reagan
John F. Kennedy
Millard Fillmore
Woodrow Wilson
Calvin Coolidge
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