30,000 boaters for Trump
Orwell:
Quote from: Beet on July 10, 2020, 02:58:09 AM
Quote from: Xing on July 10, 2020, 02:25:12 AM
0/10, not your best concern troll post by a long shot.
Interesting how any support for the theory that Trump has massive support not picked up by the polls is immediately discounted as "trolling." After Trump's Tulsa rally, liberals crowed that the mediocre turnout meant that enthusiasm for him had dimmed. I myself even wondered if I had been wrong. But it was always possible that the Tulsa rally was simply a result of Trump supporters social distancing-- they wanted to attend, but chose to be responsible instead. Liberals can't comprehend that Trump supporters are also responsible and don't want to spread Covid-19.
We had our first glimpse of this actually when a large boat rally turned out for Trump on his birthday, with thousands of people lining up at the piers of San Diego to wish him well. This is San Diego, mind you, in liberal California -- not exactly a Trumpian hotbed. And this wasn't an organized rally. Yet thousands of people spontaneously lined the piers and streets for him, despite there being no speech, no tickets, no nothing.
The fact that Trump got about 3,400 boats to do a rally for him is nothing short of remarkable for a few reasons. First, by most statistics, less than 10% of Americans actually own a boat. So 90% of Americans could not participate in this even if they had wanted to. If I, for instance, wanted to participate, I could not have. So,
(1) The fact that, even with over 90% of Americans excluded, about 3,400 boaters still showed up for him is amazing.
(2) Showing up for a boat rally is not the same thing as showing up for a regular rally. For a regular rally, all you need to do are show up, walk in, and stand around. But for a boat rally--and people came to this rally from all over the country, even states like Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, according to one Fox News report-- requires you to (a) transport your boat, (b) launch you boat, (c) rig your boat, (d) navigate your boat in the water next to thousands of others, (e) spend hours in your boat. In other words, the effort required is orders of magnitude greater than it takes to attend a rally. And yet these people were willing to do it. That speaks to enormous enthusiasm.
Can you think of a single other political candidate who had a similar rally, let alone a losing candidate?
In reality, boating represents a good cross section of middle American society, because despite the substantial investment required, about 63% of boat owners had incomes of less than $75,000. Almost all the boat owners I've known have been regular Joes. And these aren't isolated people who just loaf around online, drinking on weekends, and being solitary like some urban millennial liberals. Since boating is a group activity, these are social people who are closely connected with family, friends, and other networks. In other words, influencers. These people are a good representation of the pulse of Middle America and their enthusiasm for Trump speaks volumes.
Goodness gracious lad, you're stupid.
Rand:
You stated the San Diego boat rally was spontaneous and yet the article you cite states that it was an organized event. The links below also indicate the Trump campaign promoted the event before it happened. Still, boats in California? That’s craaazy. Boats in a state with 40 million people and 800 miles of coastline? Weeeird. And it’s crazy how many boaters came out on the 4th of July weekend! Incredibly rare to see that many boats out on the biggest holday of the summer! And in SC, no less! What is it with people in coastal states owning boats and people boating on Independence Day? 2020 is craaazy.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumpworld-sees-boaters-as-a-maga-stapleand-now-a-bizarre-boater-pac-is-returning-the-love
www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/06/donald-trump-boat-base/amp
Adam Griffin:
Do people have any idea how much it costs to buy/maintain even a relatively tiny boat? It's a rich man's game, along with a scattering of Baby Boomers who have had decades to hoard away cash and dump it into an depreciating asset in order to feel young again.
Getting a couple thousand well-off/Baby Boomer Southron boat owners from Aiken to Lexington to tow (or in many cases, undock) their boats and accommodate out-of-state shocktroops on them isn't an electoral show of force nor some demographic surprise if you understand the nature of the region. It's merely a very accurate display of the nature of the Republican base.
I'm not hostile to the "Shy Trump" effect and skepticism in polling, but if this is the kind of stuff you're latching onto...well, this ain't it.
Alben Barkley:
Quote from: Biden/Abrams Voter on July 10, 2020, 03:54:56 AM
Do people have any idea how much it costs to buy/maintain even a relatively tiny boat? It's a rich man's game, along with a scattering of Baby Boomers who have had decades to hoard away cash and dump it into an depreciating asset in order to feel young again.
Getting a couple thousand well-off/Baby Boomer Southron boat owners from Aiken to Lexington to tow (or in many cases, undock) their boats and accommodate out-of-state shocktroops on them isn't an electoral show of force nor some demographic surprise if you understand the nature of the region. It's merely a very accurate display of the nature of the Republican base.
I'm not hostile to the "Shy Trump" effect and skepticism in polling, but if this is the kind of stuff you're latching onto...well, this ain't it.
I am, because I’m generally hostile to ideas that are objectively untrue and have been soundly discredited repeatedly, along with all other anti-science and anti-fact attitudes.
That said, I welcome more posts like OP’s. They make it very easy to know who to add to the ignore list.
Adam Griffin:
Quote from: Alben Barkley on July 10, 2020, 04:18:56 AM
Quote from: Biden/Abrams Voter on July 10, 2020, 03:54:56 AM
Do people have any idea how much it costs to buy/maintain even a relatively tiny boat? It's a rich man's game, along with a scattering of Baby Boomers who have had decades to hoard away cash and dump it into an depreciating asset in order to feel young again.
Getting a couple thousand well-off/Baby Boomer Southron boat owners from Aiken to Lexington to tow (or in many cases, undock) their boats and accommodate out-of-state shocktroops on them isn't an electoral show of force nor some demographic surprise if you understand the nature of the region. It's merely a very accurate display of the nature of the Republican base.
I'm not hostile to the "Shy Trump" effect and skepticism in polling, but if this is the kind of stuff you're latching onto...well, this ain't it.
I am, because I’m generally hostile to ideas that are objectively untrue and have been soundly discredited repeatedly, along with all other anti-science and anti-fact attitudes.
That said, I welcome more posts like OP’s. They make it very easy to know who to add to the ignore list.
Nothing's been disproved because the election hasn't happened yet, but everybody can have their own opinions.
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