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President Punxsutawney Phil
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« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2021, 04:41:17 PM »

https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2021/10/05/congressional-redistricting-agreement-seems-near-including-split-of-sebastian-and-three-way-split-of-pulaskisplit-of-pulaski-to-make-2nd


They want to unnecessarily triple split Pulaski for some reason.(Yes I know the partisan reason, but considering only 40k is removed you could just single split it.)
So stupid.
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« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2021, 07:42:27 PM »

Not only is it stupid, its just inviting a lawsuit.
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« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2021, 07:43:58 PM »

What kind of map could happen if the maps get struck down? What is the mentality of the AR Supreme Court?
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« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2021, 07:51:53 PM »

What kind of map could happen if the maps get struck down? What is the mentality of the AR Supreme Court?


Federal courts would return it to the legislature in all likelyhood.
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« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2021, 07:52:58 PM »

Idea for AR Democrats: get a ballot measure on the ballot requiring all congressional districts to be whole counties.
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« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2021, 08:04:52 PM »

Idea for AR Democrats: get a ballot measure on the ballot requiring all congressional districts to be whole counties.

Why not just go for a commision at that point ? If the AR GOP cared enough about partisanship Little Rock could still be paired with 80% rurals in the north instead of 70% r suburbs.
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« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2021, 08:07:41 PM »

Idea for AR Democrats: get a ballot measure on the ballot requiring all congressional districts to be whole counties.

Why not just go for a commision at that point ? If the AR GOP cared enough about partisanship Little Rock could still be paired with 80% rurals in the north instead of 70% r suburbs.
They could be in concurrent election cycles. Commission and county splits being barred are not really contradictory with each other. But even if commission fails to pass or is bypassed someway or another, an unambigous county split ban cannot be avoided by the GOP, preventing them from doing these sorts of games.
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« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2021, 06:40:57 PM »

This map was passed by both chambers today. It is likely to be the final map, despite splitting Pulaski twice.



If it is the final map, these are how the districts would've voted in 2020:

AR-01: R+40.9 (+0.3 more D from old lines)
AR-02: R+12.8 (+4.0 more R from old lines)
AR-03: R+23.4 (+3.3 more D from old lines)
AR-04: R+35.7 (+2.4 more D from old lines)
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« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2021, 06:46:45 PM »
« Edited: October 06, 2021, 06:52:25 PM by ProgressiveModerate »

The funny thing is how Small Pulaski actually is; it’s really easy to make an R Gerry while keeping the county whole.

Overall it's a relatively clean little change map that does the job of a GOP gerrymander without being "too much".

I'm a bit suprised they didn't do as much to AR-2 and also suprized AR-3 is as "urban" as it is.
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« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2021, 06:51:39 PM »

A little disappointing but we weren't getting that seat unless the ARGOP collectively snorted cocaine so its fine.
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« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2021, 10:12:42 PM »

An attempt at a clean whole county R map. Total deviation is within the 1% limit established in the WV case. The Little Rock district was Trump+15 in both 2016 and 2020.

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« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2021, 07:21:17 AM »

An attempt at a clean whole county R map. Total deviation is within the 1% limit established in the WV case. The Little Rock district was Trump+15 in both 2016 and 2020.



Unfortunately, this type of partisan plan fails to satisfy incumbent demands, drawing out Rodgers and likely causing Hill to suffer a primary defeat. The desire to preserve the incumbents current districts while protecting Hill is why we are going to get the legislatures proposed map.
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« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2021, 07:39:55 AM »

An attempt at a clean whole county R map. Total deviation is within the 1% limit established in the WV case. The Little Rock district was Trump+15 in both 2016 and 2020.



Unfortunately, this type of partisan plan fails to satisfy incumbent demands, drawing out Rodgers and likely causing Hill to suffer a primary defeat. The desire to preserve the incumbents current districts while protecting Hill is why we are going to get the legislatures proposed map.

Oh of course, I’m not proposing this as if it’s remotely realistic. Just a what-if, to see how much the republicans could still do without splitting counties and keeping it relatively clean.
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« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2021, 10:55:07 AM »

SB743 (the final map) has been delivered to the governor for signature. It will definitely pass.

https://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/Bills/Detail?id=SB743&ddBienniumSession=2021%2F2021R
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« Reply #64 on: October 13, 2021, 02:23:04 PM »







Well this is a strange and interesting turn of events.
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« Reply #65 on: October 13, 2021, 02:28:50 PM »




Well this is a strange and interesting turn of events.
So what is the most likely outcome? If this map gets challenged (I'm sure it will), and it needs to be redrawn, I would guess a least-change that doesn't split Pulaski will be the result?
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« Reply #66 on: October 13, 2021, 02:46:12 PM »







Well this is a strange and interesting turn of events.
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« Reply #67 on: October 13, 2021, 04:09:39 PM »

Honestly considering AR’s partisanship, Hutchinson is a pretty reasonable dude. Not saying I agree with him all the time but he actually took Covid relatively seriously and just seems level headed and fair.
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« Reply #68 on: October 13, 2021, 04:26:18 PM »

Honestly considering AR’s partisanship, Hutchinson is a pretty reasonable dude. Not saying I agree with him all the time but he actually took Covid relatively seriously and just seems level headed and fair.

Enjoy it while it lasts! SHS approaches.
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« Reply #69 on: October 13, 2021, 04:51:04 PM »

Also Hutchinson did not issued a stay at home order back when COVID was striking the country but at least he had the guts to have a mask mandate in 2020 pre vaccine even as their fellow states Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Mississippi refused to have one the latter repealed it last September. And Texas/Louisiana had theirs but the former repealed it earlier this year joining AR's neighboring states as a covid superspreader bash. And despite senator Cotton's extremely controversial NYT op ed he had the guts not to join seditious neighboring senators Josh Hawley Ted Cruz and John Kennedy on overturning the election both before and after the 1/6 riot.
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« Reply #70 on: October 13, 2021, 05:27:33 PM »







Well this is a strange and interesting turn of events.

Hutchinson has always been too good for Arkansas
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« Reply #71 on: October 13, 2021, 10:50:06 PM »




Well this is a strange and interesting turn of events.
So what is the most likely outcome? If this map gets challenged (I'm sure it will), and it needs to be redrawn, I would guess a least-change that doesn't split Pulaski will be the result?
It'd probably be that, unless the courts find that a minority access district can be done (which it can).
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« Reply #72 on: October 14, 2021, 05:00:38 AM »




Well this is a strange and interesting turn of events.
So what is the most likely outcome? If this map gets challenged (I'm sure it will), and it needs to be redrawn, I would guess a least-change that doesn't split Pulaski will be the result?
It'd probably be that, unless the courts find that a minority access district can be done (which it can).
Would be ironic if an effort to crack Little Rock led to a Dem-leaning seat being drawn.
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« Reply #73 on: October 14, 2021, 05:46:02 AM »

https://davesredistricting.org/join/c0cc7546-92bc-482f-8ed9-9114707d1c45

This is how simple adding a minority access CD would be.
AR-01 is 49% white and 41% black and Biden+8, so it should very reliably elect the AA candidate of choice.
Effort was made to try to do least-change elsewhere (with the caveat being that I would split no counties, period).
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« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2021, 01:09:47 PM »



Why does Arkansas  have such a progressive constitution for a southern state ?
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