Completely agree with both of them. There is a world of difference between the founders of the United States and the leaders of the CSA. The founders established a system whose ideological underpinnings would spearhead the push towards abolition, whether particular founders owned slaves or not. The leaders of the CSA were willing to literally rip apart the American experiment for the express purpose of keeping blacks in chains. These are fundamentally different.
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Long time no see. How have you been?
