Pelosi, Biden say there is a difference between removing Confederate leaders, past presidents

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Well, yes, there is.  Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Wilson, and a number of other prominent American figures did some bad things, but you could talk about them without reference to that.

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What to do with John Tyler then?

I have an idea of where Pelosi would go with him, considering she took down portraits of Speakers of the House who had any connection to the Confederacy, even those who were not mainly known for their Confederate connection.

Don't forget the one who joined the Confederacy when he was 16 in the 1860s and then became speaker in 1890.

If you're referring to Carlisle, I argue his later loyal service to the US outweighs his Confederate service.  After all, he was 16 when war broke out.

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What to do with John Tyler then?

I have an idea of where Pelosi would go with him, considering she took down portraits of Speakers of the House who had any connection to the Confederacy, even those who were not mainly known for their Confederate connection.

Don't forget the one who joined the Confederacy when he was 16 in the 1860s and then became speaker in 1890.

If you're referring to Carlisle, I argue his later loyal service to the US outweighs his Confederate service.  After all, he was 16 when war broke out.

When did Carlisle serve the Confederacy? The Speaker in question is Crisp.

You're right I meant Crisp.

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first things first, change the name of the country, vespucci was a slave trader.

Yes, but at this point the name America has taken on a name of its own in my eyes.