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« on: July 02, 2020, 07:44:31 AM »

https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/TXToplines7220.pdf
Texas: PPP, June 24-25, 729 RV

Biden 48
Trump 46
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2020, 07:50:28 AM »

Undecided 5%

Out of interest, where are you getting that this was an RV sample?
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2020, 07:52:06 AM »

Undecided 5%

Out of interest, where are you getting that this was an RV sample?

PPP described it as "Survey of 729 Texas voters", which I am assuming means RV.  When they do LV samples they are usually labeled as such.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2020, 08:19:13 AM »

The problem with TX is the lack of no-excuse vote by mail for voters under 65
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2020, 08:22:24 AM »

The problem with TX is the lack of no-excuse vote by mail for voters under 65

There’s a loophole around that FWIW: just claim you have a disability. They won’t check if you actually have a disability.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2020, 08:42:51 AM »

The problem with TX is the lack of no-excuse vote by mail for voters under 65

Honestly, it's probably for the best, as now Republicans can't come up with legitimate excuses to close polling stations in heavily minority precincts and counties.

Anyway, Tossup remains a tossup. This isn't even counting the fact that Democrats have overperformed their polling averages in Texas for each of the past 4 cycles.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2020, 08:53:25 AM »

All but guarantees a loss in the popular vote - typically R's need to run up the score in Texas to off-set losses in other large states.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2020, 08:56:26 AM »

The problem with TX is the lack of no-excuse vote by mail for voters under 65

Honestly, it's probably for the best, as now Republicans can't come up with legitimate excuses to close polling stations in heavily minority precincts and counties.

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2020, 08:57:05 AM »

It's a RV sample, not LV just like PPP GA was RV
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2020, 09:22:12 AM »

Interesting that PPP finds Biden +2 in TX and +4 in GA but only +6 in MI.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2020, 09:22:47 AM »

Interesting that PPP finds Biden +2 in TX and +4 in GA but only +6 in MI.

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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2020, 09:32:40 AM »

Pisani confirms the sample is of RVs and puts the MoE at 3.6%
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2020, 09:34:49 AM »

The problem with TX is the lack of no-excuse vote by mail for voters under 65

There’s a loophole around that FWIW: just claim you have a disability. They won’t check if you actually have a disability.

If you do that, it could came back to bite you in the *** later if you decide to do anything important like run for office.
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2020, 09:39:30 AM »

Averaging this poll with the other TX poll you get Biden 46, Trump 47. Pure tossup status as it's been for months now.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2020, 09:49:40 AM »

For reference their last TX poll had Trump up 2.
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2020, 10:56:19 AM »

Biden will get 48% of the vote. Looks about right though Trump will likely pull ahead in the end.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2020, 11:00:33 AM »

Consistent with around a Biden +13 nationally on UNS, and consistent with Colorado +17 (PPP had Michigan +6, whereas on UNS you would expect +11)
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2020, 11:21:26 AM »

Interesting that PPP finds Biden +2 in TX and +4 in GA but only +6 in MI.

Why is this so surprising? Georgia and Michigan were only off by about 5 points in 2016. Texas and Michigan were off by about 9. Only small trends are required for the result above.
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2020, 11:22:21 AM »

Consistent with around a Biden +13 nationally on UNS, and consistent with Colorado +17 (PPP had Michigan +6, whereas on UNS you would expect +11)

Texas flips if Biden can win by about 8-9 in the PV.
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2020, 01:56:44 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2020, 02:27:18 PM »

It's just not ready yet. Can't risk it when he's only up in MI/PA/WI by around 8%
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2020, 02:47:23 PM »

I'm still not convinced it'll happen but holy sh**t I'd be so happy if it did.

Texas is absolutely worth investing in.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2020, 03:41:27 PM »

It's just not ready yet. Can't risk it when he's only up in MI/PA/WI by around 8%

This is sarcasm right? Texas is one of the few states in 2018 where Dems overperformed their PPP margin.
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2020, 03:45:37 PM »

It's just not ready yet. Can't risk it when he's only up in MI/PA/WI by around 8%

This is sarcasm right? Texas is one of the few states in 2018 where Dems overperformed their PPP margin.




There's simply no modern precedent for Democrats winning Georgia Texas. They never won it in 28 44 years, so don't even try.

We can't risk it. Must play it safe and get that 40% margin in MI/PA/WI
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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2020, 03:57:51 PM »

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