Elections if they were between the 2nd place nominees of both parties.

[Chips]

Here's my 2016 map with Cruz against Sanders:

Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren: 285 electoral votes and 47% of the popular vote
Ted Cruz/Carly Fiorina: 253 electoral votes and 48% of the popular vote

[Chips]

2012: John Wolfe vs. Rick Santorum

Rick Santorum/Running Mate: 348 electoral votes and 48% of the popular vote
John Wolfe/Running Mate: 190 electoral votes and 41% of the popular vote

The lack of name recognition for Wolfe and Obama supporters not turning out in needed numbers cause Santorum to win easily. Third parties also get a highly inflated vote total.

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

Bernie Sanders/Tammy Duckworth: 461 EV, 48% PV
Bill Weld/Joe Walsh: 45 EV, 32% PV
Mike Pence/Mike Crapo: 32 EV, 16% PV

The Republicans split, causing Bernie to win a lot of southern states (Pence's strongest area, where he takes 20-25% of the vote)



maybe unrealistic but idk I felt like making an authoritarian nut map

[Left Wing]

Who are we considering as second place in the 1996 Democratic Primary? Riemers or LaRouche?

[Left Wing]

2012: John Wolfe vs. Rick Santorum

Rick Santorum/Running Mate: 348 electoral votes and 48% of the popular vote
John Wolfe/Running Mate: 190 electoral votes and 41% of the popular vote

The lack of name recognition for Wolfe and Obama supporters not turning out in needed numbers cause Santorum to win easily. Third parties also get a highly inflated vote total.

Wolfe's running mate would probably be Alan Grayson or Mike Gravel

[John King wannabe]

2008: Hillary Clinton vs Mitt Romney

Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh: 375 Electoral Votes and 52% of the Popular Vote
Mitt Romney/Sam Brownback: 163 Electoral Votes and 47% of the Popular Vote

[Alben Barkley]

2008: Hillary Clinton vs Mitt Romney

Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh: 375 Electoral Votes and 52% of the Popular Vote
Mitt Romney/Sam Brownback: 163 Electoral Votes and 47% of the Popular Vote

I think VA (especially) and probably still NC flip there too. Maybe even Montana. Without McCain, maybe even Arizona.

[Left Wing]

2008: Hillary Clinton vs Mitt Romney

Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh: 375 Electoral Votes and 52% of the Popular Vote
Mitt Romney/Sam Brownback: 163 Electoral Votes and 47% of the Popular Vote

Huckabee got more delegates than Romney

[Alben Barkley]

Bernie Sanders/Tammy Duckworth: 461 EV, 48% PV
Bill Weld/Joe Walsh: 45 EV, 32% PV
Mike Pence/Mike Crapo: 32 EV, 16% PV

The Republicans split, causing Bernie to win a lot of southern states (Pence's strongest area, where he takes 20-25% of the vote)



maybe unrealistic but idk I felt like making an authoritarian nut map

Lol no.

Using a third party is cheating, and even with it, Bernie is not winning states like SC or MS. Low black turnout and most of those states would probably just vote for Pence with a majority. Although if Weld somehow got the GOP nomination, he's gonna have to have some conservative support and the party may go lockstep for him as they did Trump. PLUS Weld will attract way more moderates and independents. In that case, with no third party, THIS could be the map:

And it might be generous to Bernie to give him Oregon.

[OBD]

Bernie Sanders/Tammy Duckworth: 461 EV, 48% PV
Bill Weld/Joe Walsh: 45 EV, 32% PV
Mike Pence/Mike Crapo: 32 EV, 16% PV

The Republicans split, causing Bernie to win a lot of southern states (Pence's strongest area, where he takes 20-25% of the vote)



maybe unrealistic but idk I felt like making an authoritarian nut map

Lol no.

Using a third party is cheating, and even with it, Bernie is not winning states like SC or MS. Low black turnout and most of those states would probably just vote for Pence with a majority. Although if Weld somehow got the GOP nomination, he's gonna have to have some conservative support and the party may go lockstep for him as they did Trump. PLUS Weld will attract way more moderates and independents. In that case, with no third party, THIS could be the map:

And it might be generous to Bernie to give him Oregon.

You’ve clearly never been to Oregon. If anything, Bernie replacing Biden improves Democratic numbers here.

[President Johnson]

1968:

✓ Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY)/Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR): 422 EV. (51.17%)
Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/Former Governor Terry Sanford (D-NC): 52 EV. (34.85%)
Former Governor George Wallance (A-AL)/General Curtis E. LeMay (A-CA): 64 EV. (13.73%)

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

Bernie Sanders/Tammy Duckworth: 461 EV, 48% PV
Bill Weld/Joe Walsh: 45 EV, 32% PV
Mike Pence/Mike Crapo: 32 EV, 16% PV

The Republicans split, causing Bernie to win a lot of southern states (Pence's strongest area, where he takes 20-25% of the vote)



maybe unrealistic but idk I felt like making an authoritarian nut map

Lol no.

Using a third party is cheating, and even with it, Bernie is not winning states like SC or MS. Low black turnout and most of those states would probably just vote for Pence with a majority. Although if Weld somehow got the GOP nomination, he's gonna have to have some conservative support and the party may go lockstep for him as they did Trump. PLUS Weld will attract way more moderates and independents. In that case, with no third party, THIS could be the map:

And it might be generous to Bernie to give him Oregon.

in my scenario, as stated, Pence gets over 20% of the vote in most of the south. States like SC would probably be bernie 30-40%, but the split means that he wins, albeit narrowly.

I don't see the trump wing of the party getting behind weld of all people. They're calling Braun a communist now, and he's a pretty mainline conservative.

[Left Wing]

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John Edwards/Howard Dean-529 EVs, 60.5% of PV
William Tsangares/Ron Paul-9 EVS, 38.5% of PV

Tsangares only wins Utah and Wyoming, barely.

[dw93]

2000:

John McCain / John Engler (Republican): 355 EV
Bill Bradley / Paul Wellstone (Democratic): 183 EV

[Nightcore Nationalist]

Ted Cruz vs Bernie Sanders.

Edit: Cruz would probably narrowly lose NH due to rural areas favoring Trump>HRC.

[West_Midlander]

Lyndon LaRouche v. Bob Dole (1996)
LaRouche gets destroyed and probably doesn't break 15%. Jesse Jackson (light blue) enters as an independent and breaks 15% so he is able to debate Buchanan but with a two-way (ish) split and without the official sanction and support of the Democratic Party, Jackson gets squished. President Pat Buchanan.

Source: 270towin

[Chips]

1992: Brown vs. Buchanan

Brown narrowly wins but it's a close election instead of a blowout. No Perot.

Jerry Brown/Running Mate: 294 electoral votes and 50% of the popular vote
Pat Buchanan/Running Mate: 244 electoral votes and 49% of the popular vote

[Chips]

1988: Jackson vs. Dole

Jackson does stronger in the south and stronger than Dukakis in the actual election but Dole still wins convincingly. Jackson flips several southern states while Dole flips WI from the actual 1988 results

Bob Dole/Running Mate: 377 electoral votes and 52% of the popular vote
Jesse Jackson/Running Mate: 161 electoral votes and 47% of the popular vote

[Left Wing]

1984: Hart vs. Stassen

Gary Hart/Mark White: 538 electoral votes and 65% of the popular vote
Harold Stassen/John B. Anderson: 0 electoral votes and 30% of the popular vote