The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[S019]

The darkest day in American history is this day, in fact, in 1973 - when the Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

If Vladmir Putin existed in 1896, would he have supported William Bryan? That democratic candidate is the kind of leader Putin likes: some characteristics of far-right, some characteristics of far-left

I just can't

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Definitely absurd as is the entire premise of the thread:

BRTD, you are not the target audience for this Australian show. (They flew the cast and contestants to Australia as they could film there.)

There exists lots of Australian emo and hardcore.

[S019]

lol

Tilt D, Midterms don't matter unless you have a 40 percent approval like Trump whom was going thru Impeachment and D's lost seats in MO, IN and ND and  Iin 2014 CO, AK, LA, M, SD, WVA and AR and Obama had 11 percent Unemployment in 2010

Biden is at 52 Percent

[S019]

It would be a tie between cori bush and Marjorie taylor greene. Greene is a repugnant crazy radical qanon type and Cori bush is literally a blm organizer. Putting a blm in congress is the equivalent of putting a serial killer in a changeroom

Because BLM and QAnon are remotely comparable....

[MATTROSE94]

She is a raving lunatic and Massive HP, obviously

However, expelling her for comments she made before getting elected is a flagrant disregard for the will of the voters that elected her.  Now, if she breaks the law or violates the rules of the House while in office that is another matter, but retroactively punishing her for things that voters should/could have known about when they elected her should be an affornt to all of our democratic sensibilities. 

[Badger]

She is a raving lunatic and Massive HP, obviously

However, expelling her for comments she made before getting elected is a flagrant disregard for the will of the voters that elected her.  Now, if she breaks the law or violates the rules of the House while in office that is another matter, but retroactively punishing her for things that voters should/could have known about when they elected her should be an affornt to all of our democratic sensibilities. 

Even if I'm not sure I agree with this post (not sure I don't either), I fail to see why it belongs in this thread.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

In 2096 when a Democrat finally wins VA, the Democrats here will all say "I told you it was trending Democrat!".

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

In 2096 when a Democrat finally wins VA, the Democrats here will all say "I told you it was trending Democrat!".

To be fair, in 2004 Virginia swung Democratic but trended Republican. I don't think anyone could reasonably expect the state would become as solidly (Atlas) red as it has so soon. The absurdity is simply from assuming it would remain solidly blue until the end of the century.

[Hammy]

The most out of touch post of 2021 so far.

Donald Trump also did not put 11,000 workers on unemployment in his first week in office.  Joe Biden did, and most of those folks were from a union that endorsed Biden.

[Fuzzy Says: "Abolish NPR!"]

The most out of touch post of 2021 so far.

Donald Trump also did not put 11,000 workers on unemployment in his first week in office.  Joe Biden did, and most of those folks were from a union that endorsed Biden.

With one stroke of a pen, 11,000 Keystone Pipeline Workers found themselves unemployed.

Care to modify a bit?

[AtorBoltox]

Before COVID homicides had been gradually decreasing for decades. If they stay high after a general return to normalcy, that's cause for concern. I don't believe they will, we will likely see a reduction as we get back to normal life.

Normal life?  We have people hysterical about the fact that VACCINATED people might still be able to spread it, LMFAO.  COVID won’t be eradicated, and there is a depressingly large (and growing) group of nerds who will either never go back to normal or will completely betray their soap box about the virus.  The crimes were a symptom of society endorsing society as we knew it being over.

[Joe Biden 2024]

I generally agree with this.  The issue with BLM and Antifa is that NONE of its leaders ever stepped up and said, "Wait, wait, this isn't what we're about!"  Had THAT happened, I would view BLM and Antifa somewhat differently.  Trump Supporters are not violent supporters of insurrection, and Donald Trump did not at any time plan, direct, and/or condone the violence of a group of his supporters.  (These folks were already at the Capitol when Trump spoke and were a mile and a half away from him.)  know that people are vested in that narrative, but it wouldn't last five (5) minutes in an honest Court. 

For the record, I don't approve of the way Trump handled the situation of the election, but he had every right to contest results.  He had every right to legally challenge them.  The Senators that sought to challenge the EV on January 6 had every right to do so; Democrats had done so in past years (though, perhaps, with less drama) and that is how our system work.  To those who bemoan what Trump did to "our Democracy", recent events ought to have educated Americans to the fact that we are not a "Democracy"; we are a REPUBLIC, and I have a new and profound appreciation for the difference.

When did Patrice Cullors or Alicia Garza state something like, "No, people, this is NOT what we're about!".  To my knowledge, never; if they did, the MSM would have long ago made this point and there would be no argument.  Antifa are agitators by nature; they exist to bring violence, but at one time I was willing to give BLM some props had their leaders repudiated the violence in their ranks.  But that didn't happen, and BLM's supporters in Congress and in public life responded to their violence with a combination of lying and gaslighting.  So, yes, the entire BLM organization owns this.  No one in Trump's circle, including Trump, called for the riot or condoned it at any time.  BLM and Antifa, from top to bottom, cannot say the same.

As to BLM, I would also ask when any of the prominent jocks and entertainment personalities that embraced BLM step up to condone the violence (instead of lying and saying that the protests were "mostly peaceful")?  The reaction of BLM, top to bottom, was denial of the violence, then justification of the violence.  Vandalism and destruction of property were described as not violence because buildings could be replaced.  I'm sure some BLM folks found that a bit much, personally, but ranks were closed.

But, yes, I do appreciate your post.  You're more honest and consistent on this issue than 99% of the people here that I would normally not agree with, politically.

[Horus]

People of differing groups should not mingle with one another, especially so if they're poor, and especially so if they're children. Such an environment as that is basically the equivalent of lighting a match around a gas leak.

This isn't to say that the reason for these different groups being different groups is valid. Race is bullsh!t, and the only way for we to advance as a nation is to shed these identities and the conflicts associated with them. That ain't ever gonna happen though, unfortunate as that may be.

[Hammy]

Yikes. This is the first truly bad, godawful gaffe that he's made since winning the election. You don't want to say this because it'll depend on the situation at the time. Even if it's true, you don't want to say it, you need to give people time to accept it. Saying it right now will just plunge people into useless hopelessness and frustration.

It's not the idea of wearing masks that is the issue, it's the notion that the president is not trying to end the pandemic which is implied by the statement, and that he is merely aiming for it to continue forever. The president is supposed to project hope, ambition and confidence, and stick to the positive.

Meanwhile back in reality, if everybody wore a mask at all times in public, the pandemic would quickly end

[Santander]

Yikes. This is the first truly bad, godawful gaffe that he's made since winning the election. You don't want to say this because it'll depend on the situation at the time. Even if it's true, you don't want to say it, you need to give people time to accept it. Saying it right now will just plunge people into useless hopelessness and frustration.

It's not the idea of wearing masks that is the issue, it's the notion that the president is not trying to end the pandemic which is implied by the statement, and that he is merely aiming for it to continue forever. The president is supposed to project hope, ambition and confidence, and stick to the positive.

Meanwhile back in reality, if everybody wore a mask at all times in public, the pandemic would quickly end

Um, no.

[Crane]

Yikes. This is the first truly bad, godawful gaffe that he's made since winning the election. You don't want to say this because it'll depend on the situation at the time. Even if it's true, you don't want to say it, you need to give people time to accept it. Saying it right now will just plunge people into useless hopelessness and frustration.

It's not the idea of wearing masks that is the issue, it's the notion that the president is not trying to end the pandemic which is implied by the statement, and that he is merely aiming for it to continue forever. The president is supposed to project hope, ambition and confidence, and stick to the positive.

Meanwhile back in reality, if everybody wore a mask at all times in public, the pandemic would quickly end

You would need an actual effective lockdown and stay at home order as well, which America never had because it's a garbage barge of a country.

[diptheriadan]

People of differing groups should not mingle with one another, especially so if they're poor, and especially so if they're children. Such an environment as that is basically the equivalent of lighting a match around a gas leak.

This isn't to say that the reason for these different groups being different groups is valid. Race is bullsh!t, and the only way for we to advance as a nation is to shed these identities and the conflicts associated with them. That ain't ever gonna happen though, unfortunate as that may be.

TL;DR What I said was tone-deaf and stupid and doesn't really represent my actual views. Sorry about that. Longer explanation below.

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It's been a week now since I posted that and I regret it probably more than any other post I've made in my 4 1/2 years here. I stand by what I said about race being bs and our need to get rid of it, but the first paragraph makes me gag.

I think a part of it being the usage of 'should'. I don't tend to fantasize about too many 'shoulds' as they tend to get in the way of one another, and in particular the most important 'shoulds': that all people should live happy, contented lives free of want or unnecessary pain. The 'should' in the op gets in the way of this, for pretty obvious reasons. I stand by the jist of it (people of differing groups [racial, ethnic, class, culture, etc] 'mingling' tends to cause tension and often violence) as a statement of natural fact, but it's not something that would exist in my ideal world. It's something that has to be considered to get to the ideal 'should', but is not apart of it. I can elaborate on this if anyone wants, and I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.

Of course I did phrase it that way for a reason. I was going for incendiary, and phrased it to piss people off. It shouldn't be excused, but I did have my reasons. As I said above, I stand by what I said about race. It's a false grouping that is particularly destructive to our political system. The near-impossibility of it being dealt with peaceably, caused partially by the widespread refusal of both blacks* and whites to even contemplate an alternative to accepting it axiomatically as reality and partially by the fact that it is incredibly difficult to do via government policy, makes me occasionally resentful and flippant about the whole thing. Within a few days it usually fades into a solemn recognition that this is *the* obstacle to progress in this country, as it has done so now, but the difference between now and the other times is that I posted this stupid tone-deaf sh!t on the internet. It's tone deaf. Cutting out all the other bullsh!t, it's just tone deaf.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I offended anyone or made them hurt in some way. If the word-wall above hasn't already made it clear, I'm pretty disappointed in myself for having posted it.  

*- Although I will say that blacks have more of an excuse for this than us whiteys. Given how recently most black people lived in roughly the same area of the country, as well as the shared history among most black 'micro-groups' throughout the country, one could plausibly make the claim that blacks are basically an ethnic group (which is a true grouping based on actual real cultural traits and/or a common ancestry). It would then reason that the idea of 'getting rid of race' would sound ing insane to most black people.

[S019]

Pure Tossup WVA pending Manchin retirement

Lean D MT Tester the only one that can beat his is Gianforte, not Rosendale, OH Brown

Safe PA Casey, MI Stabenow, AZ Sinema, NV Rosen, VA Kaine, WI Baldwin and Klobuchar MN

Lean R FL and TX

Time for a thread rename!

[Astatine]

Pure Tossup WVA pending Manchin retirement

Lean D MT Tester the only one that can beat his is Gianforte, not Rosendale, OH Brown

Safe PA Casey, MI Stabenow, AZ Sinema, NV Rosen, VA Kaine, WI Baldwin and Klobuchar MN

Lean R FL and TX

Time for a thread rename!

No.

[Mr. Smith]

Pure Tossup WVA pending Manchin retirement

Lean D MT Tester the only one that can beat his is Gianforte, not Rosendale, OH Brown

Safe PA Casey, MI Stabenow, AZ Sinema, NV Rosen, VA Kaine, WI Baldwin and Klobuchar MN

Lean R FL and TX

Time for a thread rename!

Bad idea jao.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Mathematics is a pointless subject to study at the secondary and post-secondary levels, considering calculators and computers exist.

Just sayin'

[Santander]

Mathematics is a pointless subject to study at the secondary and post-secondary levels, considering calculators and computers exist.

Just sayin'

How is it even possible to be this ignorant?

[Horus]

People of differing groups should not mingle with one another, especially so if they're poor, and especially so if they're children. Such an environment as that is basically the equivalent of lighting a match around a gas leak.

This isn't to say that the reason for these different groups being different groups is valid. Race is bullsh!t, and the only way for we to advance as a nation is to shed these identities and the conflicts associated with them. That ain't ever gonna happen though, unfortunate as that may be.

TL;DR What I said was tone-deaf and stupid and doesn't really represent my actual views. Sorry about that. Longer explanation below.

Spoiler alert! Click Show to show the content.

Show

It's been a week now since I posted that and I regret it probably more than any other post I've made in my 4 1/2 years here. I stand by what I said about race being bs and our need to get rid of it, but the first paragraph makes me gag.

I think a part of it being the usage of 'should'. I don't tend to fantasize about too many 'shoulds' as they tend to get in the way of one another, and in particular the most important 'shoulds': that all people should live happy, contented lives free of want or unnecessary pain. The 'should' in the op gets in the way of this, for pretty obvious reasons. I stand by the jist of it (people of differing groups [racial, ethnic, class, culture, etc] 'mingling' tends to cause tension and often violence) as a statement of natural fact, but it's not something that would exist in my ideal world. It's something that has to be considered to get to the ideal 'should', but is not apart of it. I can elaborate on this if anyone wants, and I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.

Of course I did phrase it that way for a reason. I was going for incendiary, and phrased it to piss people off. It shouldn't be excused, but I did have my reasons. As I said above, I stand by what I said about race. It's a false grouping that is particularly destructive to our political system. The near-impossibility of it being dealt with peaceably, caused partially by the widespread refusal of both blacks* and whites to even contemplate an alternative to accepting it axiomatically as reality and partially by the fact that it is incredibly difficult to do via government policy, makes me occasionally resentful and flippant about the whole thing. Within a few days it usually fades into a solemn recognition that this is *the* obstacle to progress in this country, as it has done so now, but the difference between now and the other times is that I posted this stupid tone-deaf sh!t on the internet. It's tone deaf. Cutting out all the other bullsh!t, it's just tone deaf.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I offended anyone or made them hurt in some way. If the word-wall above hasn't already made it clear, I'm pretty disappointed in myself for having posted it.  

*- Although I will say that blacks have more of an excuse for this than us whiteys. Given how recently most black people lived in roughly the same area of the country, as well as the shared history among most black 'micro-groups' throughout the country, one could plausibly make the claim that blacks are basically an ethnic group (which is a true grouping based on actual real cultural traits and/or a common ancestry). It would then reason that the idea of 'getting rid of race' would sound ing insane to most black people.

Hey, we all say dumb stuff in the heat of the moment. You're usually a solid poster who I wish would post more which is why I was so surprised. If bronz had said that for example I wouldn't have batted an eye lol. Good on you for self reflecting, that's something many cannot or will not do.

[S019]

Gun control has always been racist.