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« Reply #100 on: July 27, 2020, 01:09:26 AM »

Probably not. I still think that Donald Trump will carry all counties in West Virginia, and possibly Kentucky as well.
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« Reply #101 on: July 27, 2020, 01:17:29 AM »

Nazis used to be so aesthetic. What the hell happened to them?
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« Reply #102 on: July 27, 2020, 01:26:59 AM »

I don’t think it will be a Trump that steals the election directly, but Republican officials across the country. The postmaster general will continue to slow the mail down to where it will take 3 1/2 weeks for an absentee ballot to get to your home from the clerk’s office. Due to “printing issues,” the ballots will be mailed out two days before the election, ensuring barely anyone gets them. 

Trump will then send troops to the polling places to scare voters and arrest Biden voters to stop them from voting. By November, the Coronavirus will have spiraled out of control and most people will be too scared to go to the polls even without federal goons there to intimidate them. Trump wins a “landslide” with 14% turnout and Republicans now have huge majorities in both houses of Congress.

There isn't much absurd or ignorant about this, the concerns about Republican voter suppression as well deploying federal troops are well justified. In just the past 2 years, we've seen voter suppression in the Georgia gubernatorial election in 2018 and now we have DHS officers being sent as federal police to Democratic-run cities across the nation to control peaceful protestors. While I don't think Trump will actually rig the election, these concerns aren't unfounded, especially since we are talking about a man who has sought the help of multiple foreign nations in interfering in our elections.
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« Reply #103 on: July 27, 2020, 11:00:29 AM »
« Edited: July 27, 2020, 11:07:38 AM by Coastal Elitist »

I don’t think it will be a Trump that steals the election directly, but Republican officials across the country. The postmaster general will continue to slow the mail down to where it will take 3 1/2 weeks for an absentee ballot to get to your home from the clerk’s office. Due to “printing issues,” the ballots will be mailed out two days before the election, ensuring barely anyone gets them.  

Trump will then send troops to the polling places to scare voters and arrest Biden voters to stop them from voting. By November, the Coronavirus will have spiraled out of control and most people will be too scared to go to the polls even without federal goons there to intimidate them. Trump wins a “landslide” with 14% turnout and Republicans now have huge majorities in both houses of Congress.

There isn't much absurd or ignorant about this, the concerns about Republican voter suppression as well deploying federal troops are well justified. In just the past 2 years, we've seen voter suppression in the Georgia gubernatorial election in 2018 and now we have DHS officers being sent as federal police to Democratic-run cities across the nation to control peaceful protestors. While I don't think Trump will actually rig the election, these concerns aren't unfounded, especially since we are talking about a man who has sought the help of multiple foreign nations in interfering in our elections.
Thank you for posting directly into this thread. You can't actually be this stupid burning down federal buildings and attacking the police are not peaceful protests. There's been bricks thrown at them lasers shined in their faces, etc.. These people are violent not peaceful. Also countries have been interfering in other country's elections for awhile now. Would it surprise you to learn that Churchill interfered in our elections during WWII to ensure that FDR was reelected. The Atlanta Journal found nothing wrong with the Georgia Gubernatorial election and found no evidence of voter suppression.

This doesn't look like equipment for a peaceful protest:
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« Reply #104 on: July 27, 2020, 12:26:23 PM »

I don’t think it will be a Trump that steals the election directly, but Republican officials across the country. The postmaster general will continue to slow the mail down to where it will take 3 1/2 weeks for an absentee ballot to get to your home from the clerk’s office. Due to “printing issues,” the ballots will be mailed out two days before the election, ensuring barely anyone gets them.  

Trump will then send troops to the polling places to scare voters and arrest Biden voters to stop them from voting. By November, the Coronavirus will have spiraled out of control and most people will be too scared to go to the polls even without federal goons there to intimidate them. Trump wins a “landslide” with 14% turnout and Republicans now have huge majorities in both houses of Congress.

There isn't much absurd or ignorant about this, the concerns about Republican voter suppression as well deploying federal troops are well justified. In just the past 2 years, we've seen voter suppression in the Georgia gubernatorial election in 2018 and now we have DHS officers being sent as federal police to Democratic-run cities across the nation to control peaceful protestors. While I don't think Trump will actually rig the election, these concerns aren't unfounded, especially since we are talking about a man who has sought the help of multiple foreign nations in interfering in our elections.
Thank you for posting directly into this thread. You can't actually be this stupid burning down federal buildings and attacking the police are not peaceful protests. There's been bricks thrown at them lasers shined in their faces, etc.. These people are violent not peaceful. Also countries have been interfering in other country's elections for awhile now. Would it surprise you to learn that Churchill interfered in our elections during WWII to ensure that FDR was reelected. The Atlanta Journal found nothing wrong with the Georgia Gubernatorial election and found no evidence of voter suppression.

This doesn't look like equipment for a peaceful protest:

So, I take it that you think secret police in our streets, not identifying themselves as police and then detaining protestors is normal, or that it’s normal that our President said he’d send them to “Democratic-controlled cities.”
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« Reply #105 on: July 27, 2020, 12:54:59 PM »
« Edited: July 27, 2020, 10:51:27 PM by Coastal Elitist »

I don’t think it will be a Trump that steals the election directly, but Republican officials across the country. The postmaster general will continue to slow the mail down to where it will take 3 1/2 weeks for an absentee ballot to get to your home from the clerk’s office. Due to “printing issues,” the ballots will be mailed out two days before the election, ensuring barely anyone gets them.  

Trump will then send troops to the polling places to scare voters and arrest Biden voters to stop them from voting. By November, the Coronavirus will have spiraled out of control and most people will be too scared to go to the polls even without federal goons there to intimidate them. Trump wins a “landslide” with 14% turnout and Republicans now have huge majorities in both houses of Congress.

There isn't much absurd or ignorant about this, the concerns about Republican voter suppression as well deploying federal troops are well justified. In just the past 2 years, we've seen voter suppression in the Georgia gubernatorial election in 2018 and now we have DHS officers being sent as federal police to Democratic-run cities across the nation to control peaceful protestors. While I don't think Trump will actually rig the election, these concerns aren't unfounded, especially since we are talking about a man who has sought the help of multiple foreign nations in interfering in our elections.
Thank you for posting directly into this thread. You can't actually be this stupid burning down federal buildings and attacking the police are not peaceful protests. There's been bricks thrown at them lasers shined in their faces, etc.. These people are violent not peaceful. Also countries have been interfering in other country's elections for awhile now. Would it surprise you to learn that Churchill interfered in our elections during WWII to ensure that FDR was reelected. The Atlanta Journal found nothing wrong with the Georgia Gubernatorial election and found no evidence of voter suppression.

This doesn't look like equipment for a peaceful protest:

So, I take it that you think secret police in our streets, not identifying themselves as police and then detaining protestors is normal, or that it’s normal that our President said he’d send them to “Democratic-controlled cities.”
There's no secret police lol. If they were secret you wouldn't know about them. There uniforms clearly identify them with patches on the shoulder and would you rather the cities just burn to the ground. Again this isn't at all peaceful:

People committing acts like that aren't protestors they're rioters who should be locked up.
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« Reply #106 on: July 27, 2020, 05:46:30 PM »

So it has finally come to this -Fuzzy Bear is now officially a fascist:

Marxism Leninism is absolute an evil ideology that must be destroyed, root and branch. That being said, these Moms are not Marxist Leninists, nor are the dads or US vets marching with them. They are just normal moms and dads.

The violence absolutely must be denounced, and I don't think any of these protesters support violence. It is important to raise up the banner of non-violent demonstration:

Portland leaders condemn violence, draw distinction between peaceful protest and riot

"“The self-concern, the casual destruction and the self-righteous determination to put others in harm’s way that was on display last night in this city does absolutely nothing to honor the legacy of George Floyd or to improve the systemic problems that led to his murder,” Mondainé said Saturday morning. “Destructive acts that hamper the progress of our cause can only be committed by those who do not truly care about preventing further George Floyds or are too ignorant to know better.

“To our non-black allies," he said, "do not commit violence in our name.”

-- Rev. E.D. Mondainé, president of Portland’s NAACP

"“I believe there was a small group of people who came out last night with every intention of tearing stuff up and they were going to tear it up no matter how many of them there were,” she continued. “But I want to be crystal clear: What happened last night had nothing to do with black America. It was not about standing up for black people’s rights. It was not about acknowledging the death and harm that has taken place.”"

-- African American Portland City Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty (D-OR)

It is important to support peaceful protests for the important goal of Black Lives Matter.

You had me until the last line.

Black Lives Matter is a Marxist Organization, founded by two (2) women who admit to being "trained Marxists".  Whatever the goals of BLM, the organization must be roundly condemned for their behavior.  In a civilized society they would have already condemned.  In this Alice Through The Looking Glass society, they have received lots of political love and corporate money, for reasons that are not clear, and have the look and feel of a payoff for "safety".  

It's too late for "Peaceful Protests".  We got the message; the "voices were heard".  All the peaceful protesters are doing now is feeding the Violent Mobs.  And many so-called "peaceful protesters" are actually standing by rioters, vandals, and arsonists, not actually committing these events, but cheering the violent persons on.  It's the "Peaceful Protesters", and not the police, that need to stand down; they are a major obstacle to restoring public order at this time.  I'll cut them props as to perhaps not really understanding how they're keeping the problem going, but it's time for them to stand down and for riots to be quelled.



It's time to rename this thread after him, he's made far too many absurd remarks like these
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« Reply #107 on: July 27, 2020, 05:48:11 PM »

By this I mean stuff like Trump having his federal agents go to major cities on November 3 and arresting “suspicious” people waiting in line, or in the weeks before having them go to polling stations and confiscate boxes and boxes of mail-in ballots because of “credible reports of voter fraud” or something about a bomb being in the boxes. It’s not like some unarmed 70-year-old poll worker is going to put up a fight.

How likely is this scenario and what would recourse would Democrats have?
This forum is turning more and more into reddit everyday

Yes, this is completely different from. his character and MO how?
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« Reply #108 on: July 27, 2020, 09:21:06 PM »

I don’t think it will be a Trump that steals the election directly, but Republican officials across the country. The postmaster general will continue to slow the mail down to where it will take 3 1/2 weeks for an absentee ballot to get to your home from the clerk’s office. Due to “printing issues,” the ballots will be mailed out two days before the election, ensuring barely anyone gets them. 

Trump will then send troops to the polling places to scare voters and arrest Biden voters to stop them from voting. By November, the Coronavirus will have spiraled out of control and most people will be too scared to go to the polls even without federal goons there to intimidate them. Trump wins a “landslide” with 14% turnout and Republicans now have huge majorities in both houses of Congress.

There isn't much absurd or ignorant about this, the concerns about Republican voter suppression as well deploying federal troops are well justified. In just the past 2 years, we've seen voter suppression in the Georgia gubernatorial election in 2018 and now we have DHS officers being sent as federal police to Democratic-run cities across the nation to control peaceful protestors. While I don't think Trump will actually rig the election, these concerns aren't unfounded, especially since we are talking about a man who has sought the help of multiple foreign nations in interfering in our elections.

The highlighted part is the ignorant part. 
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« Reply #109 on: July 27, 2020, 10:05:52 PM »
« Edited: July 28, 2020, 07:09:02 AM by Trained Marxist Apostate »

I don’t think it will be a Trump that steals the election directly, but Republican officials across the country. The postmaster general will continue to slow the mail down to where it will take 3 1/2 weeks for an absentee ballot to get to your home from the clerk’s office. Due to “printing issues,” the ballots will be mailed out two days before the election, ensuring barely anyone gets them.  

Trump will then send troops to the polling places to scare voters and arrest Biden voters to stop them from voting. By November, the Coronavirus will have spiraled out of control and most people will be too scared to go to the polls even without federal goons there to intimidate them. Trump wins a “landslide” with 14% turnout and Republicans now have huge majorities in both houses of Congress.

There isn't much absurd or ignorant about this, the concerns about Republican voter suppression as well deploying federal troops are well justified. In just the past 2 years, we've seen voter suppression in the Georgia gubernatorial election in 2018 and now we have DHS officers being sent as federal police to Democratic-run cities across the nation to control peaceful protestors. While I don't think Trump will actually rig the election, these concerns aren't unfounded, especially since we are talking about a man who has sought the help of multiple foreign nations in interfering in our elections.

The highlighted part is the ignorant part.  

Go back to ignorantly yelling Marxist 40 times a day.
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« Reply #110 on: July 28, 2020, 12:32:26 AM »

I don’t think it will be a Trump that steals the election directly, but Republican officials across the country. The postmaster general will continue to slow the mail down to where it will take 3 1/2 weeks for an absentee ballot to get to your home from the clerk’s office. Due to “printing issues,” the ballots will be mailed out two days before the election, ensuring barely anyone gets them.  

Trump will then send troops to the polling places to scare voters and arrest Biden voters to stop them from voting. By November, the Coronavirus will have spiraled out of control and most people will be too scared to go to the polls even without federal goons there to intimidate them. Trump wins a “landslide” with 14% turnout and Republicans now have huge majorities in both houses of Congress.

There isn't much absurd or ignorant about this, the concerns about Republican voter suppression as well deploying federal troops are well justified. In just the past 2 years, we've seen voter suppression in the Georgia gubernatorial election in 2018 and now we have DHS officers being sent as federal police to Democratic-run cities across the nation to control peaceful protestors. While I don't think Trump will actually rig the election, these concerns aren't unfounded, especially since we are talking about a man who has sought the help of multiple foreign nations in interfering in our elections.
Thank you for posting directly into this thread. You can't actually be this stupid burning down federal buildings and attacking the police are not peaceful protests. There's been bricks thrown at them lasers shined in their faces, etc.. These people are violent not peaceful. Also countries have been interfering in other country's elections for awhile now. Would it surprise you to learn that Churchill interfered in our elections during WWII to ensure that FDR was reelected. The Atlanta Journal found nothing wrong with the Georgia Gubernatorial election and found no evidence of voter suppression.

This doesn't look like equipment for a peaceful protest:

So, I take it that you think secret police in our streets, not identifying themselves as police and then detaining protestors is normal, or that it’s normal that our President said he’d send them to “Democratic-controlled cities.”
There's no secret police lol. If they were secret you wouldn't know about them. There uniforms clearly identify them with patches on the shoulder and would you rather the cities just burn to the ground. Again this isn't at all peaceful:
People committing acts like that aren't protestors they're rioters who should be locked up.


Okay, but what about this: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/25/opinion/sunday/portland-protest-federal-troops.html, it's clear that there are peaceful protestors also being attacked. There are also stories like this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/20/christopher-david-portland-protest-video/. Also let's not forget about this: https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/#.XxD9y_CwH4w.twitter, you had people placed in unmarked vans. Please don't tell me any of this is normal, it should instead be a cause for deep alarm.
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« Reply #111 on: July 28, 2020, 12:39:39 AM »

I don’t think it will be a Trump that steals the election directly, but Republican officials across the country. The postmaster general will continue to slow the mail down to where it will take 3 1/2 weeks for an absentee ballot to get to your home from the clerk’s office. Due to “printing issues,” the ballots will be mailed out two days before the election, ensuring barely anyone gets them.  

Trump will then send troops to the polling places to scare voters and arrest Biden voters to stop them from voting. By November, the Coronavirus will have spiraled out of control and most people will be too scared to go to the polls even without federal goons there to intimidate them. Trump wins a “landslide” with 14% turnout and Republicans now have huge majorities in both houses of Congress.

There isn't much absurd or ignorant about this, the concerns about Republican voter suppression as well deploying federal troops are well justified. In just the past 2 years, we've seen voter suppression in the Georgia gubernatorial election in 2018 and now we have DHS officers being sent as federal police to Democratic-run cities across the nation to control peaceful protestors. While I don't think Trump will actually rig the election, these concerns aren't unfounded, especially since we are talking about a man who has sought the help of multiple foreign nations in interfering in our elections.
Thank you for posting directly into this thread. You can't actually be this stupid burning down federal buildings and attacking the police are not peaceful protests. There's been bricks thrown at them lasers shined in their faces, etc.. These people are violent not peaceful. Also countries have been interfering in other country's elections for awhile now. Would it surprise you to learn that Churchill interfered in our elections during WWII to ensure that FDR was reelected. The Atlanta Journal found nothing wrong with the Georgia Gubernatorial election and found no evidence of voter suppression.

This doesn't look like equipment for a peaceful protest:

So, I take it that you think secret police in our streets, not identifying themselves as police and then detaining protestors is normal, or that it’s normal that our President said he’d send them to “Democratic-controlled cities.”
There's no secret police lol. If they were secret you wouldn't know about them. There uniforms clearly identify them with patches on the shoulder and would you rather the cities just burn to the ground. Again this isn't at all peaceful:
People committing acts like that aren't protestors they're rioters who should be locked up.
Do you think federal cops/private contractors/whatever the f**k they are should be firing at protestors heads? Including ones who didn't participate in any rioting? See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/2020PoliceBrutality/comments/hq4eza/portland_cops_shoot_peaceful_protester_holding_a/
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« Reply #112 on: July 28, 2020, 12:40:02 AM »

^ Not hard ... rioters should be arrested, and officers abusing their power should be prosecuted.
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« Reply #113 on: July 28, 2020, 12:44:59 AM »

^ Not hard ... rioters should be arrested, and officers abusing their power should be prosecuted.

Yes, I agree with this, wholeheartedly. To be clear, (to TPH) I'm not defending the rioters, I'm defending the peaceful protestors who are being targeted by police, instead of the rioters who the police actually should be targeting. Though, the rioting issues can be handled by the local police, there's not really a need to deploy federal troops in any situation.
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« Reply #114 on: July 28, 2020, 05:57:58 AM »

In normal times I would not even suggest this.  But right now, I believe the Congress and the President ought to send the following message:

"Not a dime until the rioters stand down in every city!"

Not a dime!

If people were convinced that the Congress was serious, just watch.  Jenny Durkan would push the city council to reverse the ban on less lethal measures (rubber bullets, chemical agents) used to quell riots.  Lori Lightfoot would volunntarily quarter soldiers at her house.  No one would want to be responsible for that.  So, yes, it's time to squeeze those who are enabling the violence.  Make aid contingent on a state's leaders doing what is necessary to quell all of the violence.

Not a dime!

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« Reply #115 on: July 29, 2020, 10:04:00 AM »

I mean if the Lindsey Must Go Pac has Graham winning by a fair margin, then he is probably not going anywhere except the Senate.

True, but it's looking like Graham will be held to a single-digit margin this year, which would constitute the worst performance of his Senatorial career. As I've said elsewhere, I'm thinking that he will win by between 6 and 9 percentage points.

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What do you mean by this? That it would be a good thing if Graham is held to such a margin? I would agree with you there.
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« Reply #116 on: July 29, 2020, 11:40:28 AM »

I don’t think it will be a Trump that steals the election directly, but Republican officials across the country. The postmaster general will continue to slow the mail down to where it will take 3 1/2 weeks for an absentee ballot to get to your home from the clerk’s office. Due to “printing issues,” the ballots will be mailed out two days before the election, ensuring barely anyone gets them.  

Trump will then send troops to the polling places to scare voters and arrest Biden voters to stop them from voting. By November, the Coronavirus will have spiraled out of control and most people will be too scared to go to the polls even without federal goons there to intimidate them. Trump wins a “landslide” with 14% turnout and Republicans now have huge majorities in both houses of Congress.

There isn't much absurd or ignorant about this, the concerns about Republican voter suppression as well deploying federal troops are well justified. In just the past 2 years, we've seen voter suppression in the Georgia gubernatorial election in 2018 and now we have DHS officers being sent as federal police to Democratic-run cities across the nation to control peaceful protestors. While I don't think Trump will actually rig the election, these concerns aren't unfounded, especially since we are talking about a man who has sought the help of multiple foreign nations in interfering in our elections.

The highlighted part is the ignorant part.  

Go back to ignorantly yelling Marxist 40 times a day.


The rioters are Marxists (at least from a cultural point of view).
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« Reply #117 on: July 29, 2020, 09:25:04 PM »
« Edited: August 02, 2020, 05:17:44 PM by TexasGurl »

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« Reply #118 on: July 30, 2020, 12:38:24 AM »

The rioters are Marxists (at least from a cultural point of view).

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« Reply #119 on: July 30, 2020, 04:50:34 AM »
« Edited: August 02, 2020, 05:18:23 PM by TexasGurl »


Isn't this racist enough to warrant harsh mod intervention?
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« Reply #120 on: July 30, 2020, 08:15:26 AM »
« Edited: August 02, 2020, 05:18:41 PM by TexasGurl »


There was mod intervention. The worst post was removed, this one was nothing in comparison.
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« Reply #121 on: July 30, 2020, 11:38:52 AM »
« Edited: August 02, 2020, 05:18:59 PM by TexasGurl »


There was mod intervention. The worst post was removed, this one was nothing in comparison.

Good. I have seen that all of Horatii's posts on that thread have been removed.
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« Reply #122 on: July 31, 2020, 12:38:19 AM »

I mean if the Lindsey Must Go Pac has Graham winning by a fair margin, then he is probably not going anywhere except the Senate.

True, but it's looking like Graham will be held to a single-digit margin this year, which would constitute the worst performance of his Senatorial career. As I've said elsewhere, I'm thinking that he will win by between 6 and 9 percentage points.

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What do you mean by this? That it would be a good thing if Graham is held to such a margin? I would agree with you there.

How is this absurd or ignorant? I didn't recognize that it was a meme they were posting until another poster clarified it for me. And my comment itself isn't by any means a stretch. All I was saying was that I would agree it would be a good thing if Lindsay Graham were held to single digits this year.
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« Reply #123 on: July 31, 2020, 12:58:16 AM »

It will be 3 to 1, if Scholten loses he will challenge Gov Reynolds or may force Grassley into retirement in 2022. He is a top candidate


Yeah, Chuck Grassley losing isn't happening, especially since 2022 looks to be under a Biden presidency, which means it would probably be a very Republican year. Democrats aren't winning a statewide race in Iowa in such an environment, period, let alone against one of the state's most popular politicians.
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« Reply #124 on: July 31, 2020, 09:06:25 PM »

Smith probably would lose if Trump was running particularly close in Minnesota (or if Klobuchar  was atop the ballot, as that means Trump would probably doing much better in Minnesota, up to a possible win).

I have this as Likely D.

While Trump likely will lose Minnesota, and Jason Lewis is a horrible candidate, I wouldn't completely rule just enough voters splitting their ballots to give Lewis a victory while also voting for Biden.

That said, another poll with this size margin, and I'd probably be convinced to move this one to  Safe D.
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