AZ, FL, MI, NC, PA, WI (Redfield & Whiton) - Biden +4, +4, +11, +6, +10, +9
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Lisa's voting Biden
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« on: June 25, 2020, 11:09:05 AM »

AZ
Biden - 43
Trump - 39
Jorgensen - 2
Hawkins - 1

FL
Biden - 45
Trump - 41
Jorgensen/Hawkins - 1

MI
Biden - 47
Trump - 36
Jorgensen - 2
Hawkins - 1

NC
Biden - 46
Trump - 40
Jorgensen - 1
Hawkins - 0

PA
Biden - 49
Trump - 39
Jorgensen/Hawkins - 1

WI
Biden - 45
Trump - 36
Jorgensen/Hawkins - 1


https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-usa-swing-state-voting-intention-14-to-19-june/
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2020, 11:11:21 AM »

A lot of polls in the past few days where MI, PA and WI are close to or outright double digit Biden leads.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2020, 11:11:40 AM »

Would like Biden to be closer to 50 but still solid numbers.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2020, 11:13:57 AM »

The race according to 538.com is at Biden +10. If both the aggregate is correct and these polls are correct, Trump can win by losing by 1% nationally. That's how it was in 2016.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2020, 11:15:51 AM »

Beautiful.

Also good to see that they are polling Jorgensen and Hawkins. Nobody else does.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2020, 11:15:58 AM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  
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Lisa's voting Biden
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2020, 11:19:05 AM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  
That's not at all what you should be getting from this but in times of distress people are known to say stupid things.
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2020, 11:19:28 AM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  

This is an impressive level of commitment to a caricature of a serious Republican. Bravo sir!
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2020, 11:20:11 AM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  

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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2020, 11:20:21 AM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  

I donít know who you support but itís not that uncommon for this stage of the race. I mean we arenít dealing with two candidates who are overwhelmingly favored.
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2020, 11:20:58 AM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  
1) there aren't any clear indications things are going to get better for Trump any time soon and 2) Trump is getting 36-41 in every state, something backed up by the NYT polls. Is that a good position for him to be in?
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2020, 11:21:19 AM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  

When was the last time Trump lead a poll by more than 2 points outside states like OK and AL?
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2020, 11:24:19 AM »

Polls continue to show that Trump is in dire straights in MI, WI, and PA.

Also interesting that PA was the state with the highest amount of mind made up in NYT/Siena, and this poll
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2020, 11:25:52 AM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  

LOL at your lack of understanding of polling and presidential politics.  When you are the incumbent, it is even more imperitive that you get close to 50% in polling.  Trump's average across the polls is 38.5%, which is pathetic.
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2020, 11:26:36 AM »

Fantastic. Let's keep it up.
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2020, 11:31:12 AM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  

This is an impressive level of commitment to a caricature of a serious Republican. Bravo sir!

In all seriousness, I've been starting to wonder if it's a parody account meant to fill the vacuum left by you-know-who.
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2020, 11:40:25 AM »

No I'm not a damn parody account.  I was mearly stating its crazy how we have 13% unemployment, a national pandemic, and massive racial tension in our country, and the Democrats once again have nominated a low quality candidate.  I've said it multiple times now that i don't think Trump will win, but for Biden to not even be getting close to 50% in some of these states in the current climate is indeed LOL.
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2020, 11:48:32 AM »

No I'm not a damn parody account.  I was mearly stating its crazy how we have 13% unemployment, a national pandemic, and massive racial tension in our country, and the Democrats once again have nominated a low quality candidate.  I've said it multiple times now that i don't think Trump will win, but for Biden to not even be getting close to 50% in some of these states in the current climate is indeed LOL.
It's called polarization. Biden is basically matching Trump's approve/disapprove numbers here. I wouldn't say Biden is a weak candidate either, he consistently polled best among the democrats who ran for the nomination and is leading by huge margins right now.
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2020, 11:53:18 AM »

There are alot of parody accounts since the usual OPs whom insisted that PA was a permanently R state isnt on quoting that anymore.

I am so glad we dont have to listen to that anymore
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2020, 11:54:48 AM »

Beautiful.

Also good to see that they are polling Jorgensen and Hawkins. Nobody else does.

Unsurprisingly, Jorgensen and Hawkins are receiving much lower support than Johnson and Stein did last time in these states. Their percentages were inflated in 2016 thanks to voters who were dissatisfied with Clinton or Trump (or both). Biden has obviously pulled back in many Johnson/Stein voters who typically vote Democratic.
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2020, 12:07:32 PM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  

Just keep moving the goalposts, that will ensure a Trump victory!
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2020, 12:14:08 PM »
« Edited: June 25, 2020, 11:47:45 PM by Make PA Blue Again! »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  

Lol at Trumpís inability to break 40% in a lot of states that he literally won four years ago.
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2020, 12:26:35 PM »

LOL at Bidenís inability to cross 50 in the current climate.  

Talk about moving the goalposts, SN.

Anyway, interesting that Biden is closest to or over 50 in both this poll and NYT in PA, even though in neither does he have the biggest margin there.
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2020, 12:32:47 PM »

Beautiful.

Also good to see that they are polling Jorgensen and Hawkins. Nobody else does.

Unsurprisingly, Jorgensen and Hawkins are receiving much lower support than Johnson and Stein did last time in these states. Their percentages were inflated in 2016 thanks to voters who were dissatisfied with Clinton or Trump (or both). Biden has obviously pulled back in many Johnson/Stein voters who typically vote Democratic.

Neither Jorgensen and Hawkins have received much airtime (or, at the very least, as much airtime as is usually devoted to third-party candidates).  

This means that while neither is likely to have a "what is Aleppo?" moment, there won't be a "giant sucking sound" quotable either.  
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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2020, 12:40:09 PM »

Beautiful.

Also good to see that they are polling Jorgensen and Hawkins. Nobody else does.

Unsurprisingly, Jorgensen and Hawkins are receiving much lower support than Johnson and Stein did last time in these states. Their percentages were inflated in 2016 thanks to voters who were dissatisfied with Clinton or Trump (or both). Biden has obviously pulled back in many Johnson/Stein voters who typically vote Democratic.

Neither Jorgensen and Hawkins have received much airtime (or, at the very least, as much airtime as is usually devoted to third-party candidates).  

This means that while neither is likely to have a "what is Aleppo?" moment, there won't be a "giant sucking sound" quotable either.  

This is true. I didn't even know who Jorgensen and Hawkins were until about a month ago. They are certainly much more obscure than Gary Johnson-who is the former Governor of New Mexico and initially ran for the Republican nomination in 2012 before switching to the Libertarians. In 2016, all of these states were won by Trump with a plurality of the vote. Biden could potentially gain a majority in all six if things break right for him, and this is especially likely to happen for him in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Arizona.
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