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« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2020, 02:18:25 PM »

Because he has a ton of money and there's diminishing returns in investing another $50 million into Michigan?
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« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2020, 12:29:20 PM »

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« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2020, 12:31:46 PM »

Those are good states to target imo. Better to solidify the stuff closer to 270 than get cocky and go for Ohio, Texas, and Georgia.
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« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2020, 01:24:26 PM »

lol at the idea that Georgia is far less competitive than North Carolina
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« Reply #54 on: July 21, 2020, 01:30:18 PM »

Those are good states to target imo. Better to solidify the stuff closer to 270 than get cocky and go for Ohio, Texas, and Georgia.

I think that he should ignore Ohio and Texas but I do think that Georgia is at least as competitive as North Carolina, and it also has two senate elections going on.
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« Reply #55 on: July 21, 2020, 01:30:32 PM »

We must dispel this notion that GA and TX are not true battleground states lol, also investment is key for down ballot races, Dems are looking to flip TX house of reps and pick up TX-24/GA-07 for example
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« Reply #56 on: July 21, 2020, 01:32:27 PM »

I'm sure GA and TX will officially be in the mix (and OH), but probably not until later this fall I'd assume
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« Reply #57 on: July 21, 2020, 02:28:28 PM »

GA isn't quite as competitive as NC, but it still deserves investment.
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« Reply #58 on: July 21, 2020, 02:30:50 PM »

Ah yes, the same 6 states we knew were going to be the deciding ones like a year ago. I would recommend he invest a bit in GA and OH, since GA will probably votes similar to NC, and it would help the party long term if they could pull off a statewide win on the presidential level in Georgia. As for OH, losing OH makes it pretty much impossible for Trump to win in 2020, and OH is at least competative if you're leading in MI and PA by like 10 points.
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« Reply #59 on: July 21, 2020, 03:02:33 PM »

I think those states are the smartest to focus on, though it would be good to branch out eventually.  But those 6 need to be the most heavily targeted.  No games this time, we need to get to 270.
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« Reply #60 on: July 21, 2020, 03:08:31 PM »

We must dispel this notion that GA and TX are not true battleground states lol, also investment is key for down ballot races, Dems are looking to flip TX house of reps and pick up TX-24/GA-07 for example

It’s not that they aren’t, I’m just cautious considering how Hillary went for the stretch states in 2016 and failed in not only those, but also states like PA, MI, and WI.

I’m more focused on that states that will get Biden to 270 rather than the ones that he is currently tied in (which are way past the 270 mark).
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« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2020, 03:13:22 PM »

Smart play.
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« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2020, 03:22:28 PM »

Mark my words, Biden will win at least one state that Trump won in 2016, without campaigning or investing any significant resources into them

He proved he can do it in the primaries

I predict Alaska
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« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2020, 03:30:01 PM »

Biden's campaign spent $15M buying ads in the last 6 weeks. This move is $15M spent for a SINGLE WEEK of ads in battleground states. It's truly a Biden blitz, y'all.
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« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2020, 03:33:10 PM »

I know that there comes a moment when spending on TV ads is a waste and changes only a handful of minds, at best.
But I wonder if this year when campaigning is severely restricted and TV ads are the only game in town, that rule still applies.
Thoughts?
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« Reply #65 on: July 21, 2020, 05:11:20 PM »

Can't fault him for the choice of those 6 states.
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« Reply #66 on: July 21, 2020, 06:03:29 PM »

Those are good states to target imo. Better to solidify the stuff closer to 270 than get cocky and go for Ohio, Texas, and Georgia.

Georgia is going to vote to the left of NC this year. NC has a slow D trend, while GA has a lightning fast one. Democrats have hit rock bottom in rural GA, but not even close in NC. There are still a decent of rural Dixiecrats in NC.
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« Reply #67 on: July 21, 2020, 06:46:35 PM »

Those are good states to target imo. Better to solidify the stuff closer to 270 than get cocky and go for Ohio, Texas, and Georgia.

Georgia is going to vote to the left of NC this year. NC has a slow D trend, while GA has a lightning fast one. Democrats have hit rock bottom in rural GA, but not even close in NC. There are still a decent of rural Dixiecrats in NC.

My real concern with Georgia is with how slimy Kemp is. Under equal conditions, you’re probably right, but I have much less faith in Georgia’s ability to hold an election than North Carolina’s.
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« Reply #68 on: July 21, 2020, 06:54:42 PM »

Those are good states to target imo. Better to solidify the stuff closer to 270 than get cocky and go for Ohio, Texas, and Georgia.

Georgia is going to vote to the left of NC this year. NC has a slow D trend, while GA has a lightning fast one. Democrats have hit rock bottom in rural GA, but not even close in NC. There are still a decent of rural Dixiecrats in NC.


I disagree. 2016 was rock bottom for Democrats in NC.
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« Reply #69 on: July 21, 2020, 06:57:36 PM »

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« Reply #70 on: July 21, 2020, 07:01:49 PM »

Imagine thinking NC is more deserving of investment at this point than GA.

Also:

STOP 👏 SPENDING 👏 IN 👏 FL
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« Reply #71 on: July 21, 2020, 08:47:53 PM »

lol at the idea that Georgia is far less competitive than North Carolina

Georgia is inelastic. It's even less elastic than North Carolina.

With little room for persuasion, that means relying almost entirely on mobilization.

North Carolina have long been competitive on the state level, so the Democratic infrastructure is already there.

On the other hand, Georgia hasn't been competitive for a while, so what Democratic infrastructure is there is questionable.
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« Reply #72 on: July 21, 2020, 09:02:38 PM »

Those are good states to target imo. Better to solidify the stuff closer to 270 than get cocky and go for Ohio, Texas, and Georgia.

I think that he should ignore Ohio and Texas but I do think that Georgia is at least as competitive as North Carolina, and it also has two senate elections going on.

At most, the Dems might gain one Senate seat in Georgia and even that is less likely than North Carolina. If Georgia and North Carolina are actually in reach, gaining Senate seats is more important than an EV landslide.
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« Reply #73 on: July 21, 2020, 09:21:39 PM »

Imagine thinking NC is more deserving of investment at this point than GA.
You're definitely right.

You're definitely wrong.
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« Reply #74 on: July 21, 2020, 09:34:18 PM »

Mark my words, Biden will win at least one state that Trump won in 2016, without campaigning or investing any significant resources into them

He proved he can do it in the primaries

I predict Alaska

Texas or Georgia
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