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« on: June 18, 2020, 01:46:02 AM »

There were some comparisons between Trump 2020 and Wilson 1920. How badly would Wilson actually done if nominated in 1920? Worse than Cox?
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2020, 08:35:03 AM »

There were some comparisons between Trump 2020 and Wilson 1920. How badly would Wilson actually done if nominated in 1920? Worse than Cox?
Probably about the same. Voters in 1920 were ready for a "return to normalcy", which we now know included the Tulsa/Greenwood and Rosewood race massacres and the resurgence of the KKK.

No wonder many northern Blacks and Jews joined Catholics in voting for Al Smith in 1928.

But hey, the punch time clock was invented, so I guess something good came out of the 1920s (sarcasm).
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2020, 12:56:19 PM »

There were some comparisons between Trump 2020 and Wilson 1920. How badly would Wilson actually done if nominated in 1920? Worse than Cox?
Probably about the same. Voters in 1920 were ready for a "return to normalcy", which we now know included the Tulsa/Greenwood and Rosewood race massacres and the resurgence of the KKK.

No wonder many northern Blacks and Jews joined Catholics in voting for Al Smith in 1928.

But hey, the punch time clock was invented, so I guess something good came out of the 1920s (sarcasm).

Yep, also you have guys like D.C. Stephenson -- rapist, murderer, Grand Wizard of the KKK in Indiana, and close friend and influence on prominent Republican politicians -- as pretty decisive proof that the KKK was not a Democratic exclusive thing anymore in the 1920s.

More reason the whole idea that the parties "switched" in the 60s but before that the Democrats were "the party of the Klan" while the Republicans were anti-racist is dumb.
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2020, 05:38:47 PM »

Wilson would've been annihlated even worse than Cox. As for those criticizing Harding's return to Normalcy, no one really knew that would entail the re emergence of the KKK, which was primarily an aftershock of the efforts of Wilson's own administration (The guy is the closest the US ever got to a KKK President without him ever donning the hood, the Cynical Historian has two great videos on Wilson's life that I highly reccomend). Return to Normalcy primarily meant a return to the days of Pure, Blissful Isolationism and the ideas of both Taft and Roosevelt (I.E., Hughes' ideas seeing as he was a moderate and a reformer). Also, people forget that a huge reason that the 1924 DNC was such a mess was because the initial front-runner, Wilson's son-in-law and Secretary of the Treasury during his administration, William Gibbs McAdoo, had connections with the Klan even if he wanted to disassociate himself with those connections. Both Parties had connections with the Klan, Both Parties have dirty hands in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, and beyond. Both Parties had bad people. Now, can we keep that back and just discuss how badly Wilson would lose to Harding now?
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2020, 01:46:39 AM »

No Democrat could have won in 1920
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2020, 02:03:30 AM »

No Democrat could have won in 1920
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2020, 08:40:51 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2020, 08:29:07 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2020, 05:50:44 PM »


Its not about winning, its about how many electoral votes he can ger
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2020, 05:55:37 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2020, 05:11:11 PM »

add KY to the states Harding wins.
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2020, 06:33:09 AM »

Wilson would have been destroyed more badly than Cox was, losing also Kentucky.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2020, 07:16:42 AM »

There were some comparisons between Trump 2020 and Wilson 1920. How badly would Wilson actually done if nominated in 1920? Worse than Cox?
Probably about the same. Voters in 1920 were ready for a "return to normalcy", which we now know included the Tulsa/Greenwood and Rosewood race massacres and the resurgence of the KKK.

No wonder many northern Blacks and Jews joined Catholics in voting for Al Smith in 1928.

But hey, the punch time clock was invented, so I guess something good came out of the 1920s (sarcasm).

Well, Smith did clearly better than previous Democrats among Blacks, but Hoover still won a majority of them.
And/but/also the majority of American Jews voted for Woodrow Wilson, that famous tolerant president (although yes, Smith won more of them than Wilson).
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