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« Reply #925 on: October 31, 2020, 11:12:19 AM »

It's a rounded 90, he's actually at 89.6 or so.  I think he needs to actually reach 90 to be "strongly favored."

By my calculations Biden is one "dot" away from "clearly favored."

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« Reply #926 on: October 31, 2020, 11:16:47 AM »


Why wait? He's already down to a 9.96% chance right now.

Where can you see it down to that level?
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« Reply #927 on: October 31, 2020, 11:19:09 AM »


Why wait? He's already down to a 9.96% chance right now.

Where can you see it down to that level?

If you download the model outputs at the bottom of the page and open up national toplines from that dataset into excel.   It is up to 10.03% as of this morning
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« Reply #928 on: October 31, 2020, 11:20:17 AM »


Why wait? He's already down to a 9.96% chance right now.

Where can you see it down to that level?

If you download the model outputs at the bottom of the page and open up national toplines from that dataset into excel.   It is up to 10.03% as of this morning

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« Reply #929 on: October 31, 2020, 11:21:26 AM »


Why wait? He's already down to a 9.96% chance right now.

Where can you see it down to that level?

Also this: https://electionforecastjs.web.app/
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« Reply #930 on: October 31, 2020, 11:29:34 AM »


Thank you!
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« Reply #931 on: October 31, 2020, 11:50:40 AM »

Biden's lead down to 8.6, which is a bit worrying, but we're still waiting on live-callers from Marist, ABC/WaPo, and NBC/WSJ.
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« Reply #932 on: October 31, 2020, 12:06:15 PM »


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« Reply #933 on: October 31, 2020, 12:13:43 PM »

Biden's lead down to 8.6, which is a bit worrying, but we're still waiting on live-callers from Marist, ABC/WaPo, and NBC/WSJ.

Also, Nate has said that polls before the last debate are really no longer having much of an effect in the model. Which means if these are close to their last polls or even marginal tightening, we could actually see Biden’s margin go up.
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« Reply #934 on: October 31, 2020, 01:13:21 PM »


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« Reply #935 on: October 31, 2020, 11:53:18 PM »

Worth noting that even after the Selzer poll, Biden is still at 90% to win. (And wait — if polls were “exactly as wrong as 2016,” wouldn’t Biden be winning Texas?)
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« Reply #936 on: November 01, 2020, 12:12:42 AM »

Worth noting that even after the Selzer poll, Biden is still at 90% to win. (And wait — if polls were “exactly as wrong as 2016,” wouldn’t Biden be winning Texas?)

It did tick down  to 89 after the Seltzer poll came out, but after the FL & PA WAPO polls and the economic index going down slightly more it went back up to the 90% mark
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« Reply #937 on: November 01, 2020, 08:38:28 AM »




South Carolina dragged it's northern brother back across the red-state line.

"Oh no no, we're in this together."
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« Reply #938 on: November 01, 2020, 08:43:09 AM »



South Carolina dragged it's northern brother back across the red-state line.

"Oh no no, we're in this together."

Quote from the wonderful movie 1776 (multiple times): "North Carolina yields to South Carolina."
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« Reply #939 on: November 01, 2020, 08:51:45 AM »

I think the 538 forecast may be most off with PA of the "midwest" states. We've been getting constant medium-to-high quality polls with Biden up 6-8 there but they are letting the average be dragged down by low quality stuff (only 4.9 right now) despite getting A+ polls for +6 and +7 today.
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« Reply #940 on: November 01, 2020, 09:08:54 AM »

Lol, 538 isn't considering Wisconsin and Michigan to be competitive races anymore.
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« Reply #941 on: November 02, 2020, 07:54:16 AM »

And on the day before the election, 538 finally shows Biden as "clearly favored".
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« Reply #942 on: November 02, 2020, 08:00:25 AM »

We've had numerous legitimate higher quality national polls at Biden +10, yet the average remains at +8.5 thanks to IBD + lower quality outfits
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« Reply #943 on: November 02, 2020, 08:14:32 AM »

With a little under a day and half to go until polls begin to close in Kentucky and Indiana, Trump has, for the first time this election, reached the single digits. His chances in the model sit at 9.
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« Reply #944 on: November 02, 2020, 08:17:00 AM »

With a little under a day and half to go until polls begin to close in Kentucky and Indiana, Trump has, for the first time this election, reached the single digits. His chances in the model sit at 9.

He's about where Romney was at this point.
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« Reply #945 on: November 02, 2020, 08:58:10 AM »

Polls entered this morning: +10, +10, +12, +10, +8, +11

> average drops from +8.6 to +8.5. Makes no sense.
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« Reply #946 on: November 02, 2020, 08:58:51 AM »

Polls entered this morning: +10, +10, +12, +10, +8, +11

> average drops from +8.6 to +8.5. Makes no sense.
It's probably more pro-Biden older polls dropping out of the averages. It is a bit strange to see though.
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« Reply #947 on: November 02, 2020, 09:04:59 AM »

The model now says that Biden is "clearly favored".
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« Reply #948 on: November 02, 2020, 09:35:40 AM »

With a little under a day and half to go until polls begin to close in Kentucky and Indiana, Trump has, for the first time this election, reached the single digits. His chances in the model sit at 9.

He's about where Romney was at this point.

I'd focus on Biden's percentage instead, because Trump would likely be reelected in case of a 269-269 tie.
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« Reply #949 on: November 02, 2020, 09:36:46 AM »

With a little under a day and half to go until polls begin to close in Kentucky and Indiana, Trump has, for the first time this election, reached the single digits. His chances in the model sit at 9.

He's about where Romney was at this point.

I'd focus on Biden's percentage instead, because Trump would likely be reelected in case of a 269-269 tie.
I mean probability
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