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« on: June 16, 2020, 06:16:42 AM »

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/06/16/michigan-poll-biden-trump/3190077001/

Biden 55% (+2)
Trump 39% (-2)
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2020, 06:20:42 AM »

Thank you Bernie Porn!
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2020, 06:32:17 AM »

Looks like a tossup to me
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2020, 06:33:18 AM »

Holy sh**t. And we didn't think it could get bigger.

NEED some high quality PA and WI polls right now. If Biden is up 10 nationally, they are probably pretty high single digits at least.
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2020, 06:35:02 AM »

The crazy thing is, this was in the field about the same time as the first one. So if they did a poll NOW, the lead may even be bigger, since Biden's lead has grown since then

But a second poll, started on May 31, a day after the first poll began, and concluded a day later, on June 4, showed Biden leading Trump 55%-39% in Michigan, a 16-point margin. As it did for the first poll, EPIC-MRA surveyed 600 randomly selected likely voters for the second one, which had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2020, 06:35:07 AM »

Michigan polls strike again. 10 point Dem trend on it's way!
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2020, 06:47:04 AM »

Holy sh**t. And we didn't think it could get bigger.


I'm sure Bernie Porn hears that a lot.
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2020, 07:32:17 AM »

Michigan polls strike again. 10 point Dem trend on it's way!

When do we get to revive the MI 2016 = IN 2008 meme? IN only trended 8 points away from the incumbent in 2012.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2020, 07:37:29 AM »

If this is what "the employment bump" does to trump, then I hope we continue to see more of it.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2020, 07:41:55 AM »

Michigan polls strike again. 10 point Dem trend on it's way!

When do we get to revive the MI 2016 = IN 2008 meme? IN only trended 8 points away from the incumbent in 2012.

When Michigan actually trends 8-10 points Democratic. Almost certainly will not happen though, just more proof these polls have so many issues capturing Trump's base at this unpopular moment of Trump's presidency. Trump is polling 5 points worse nationally than he did at the end of the 2016 cycle, but all these state polls (especially red states) have him doing 10-20 points worse. You can't possibly believe them all.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2020, 08:03:25 AM »


Nah SN 2987654321 was right. Lean R at best.
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2020, 09:07:12 AM »

May 31 - June 4 (not to be confused with their May 30 - June 3 poll)
600 likely voters
MoE: 4%

Would vote to replace Trump 51%
Consider voting for someone else 13%
Would vote to reelect Trump 33%

May 30 - June 3 numbers:

Would vote to replace Trump 51%
Consider voting for someone else 8%
Would vote to reelect Trump 38%
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2020, 09:55:14 AM »

Michigan polls strike again. 10 point Dem trend on it's way!

When do we get to revive the MI 2016 = IN 2008 meme? IN only trended 8 points away from the incumbent in 2012.

When Michigan actually trends 8-10 points Democratic. Almost certainly will not happen though, just more proof these polls have so many issues capturing Trump's base at this unpopular moment of Trump's presidency. Trump is polling 5 points worse nationally than he did at the end of the 2016 cycle, but all these state polls (especially red states) have him doing 10-20 points worse. You can't possibly believe them all.

WTF is “capturing Trump’s base” supposed to mean? It’s the minority here in this poll. There isn’t some massive secret silent base out there being neglected. He’s unpopular right now, yes, which means most anyone who’s not in the diehard base has soured on him.

And based on the latest polls, Trump might be losing by double digits nationally. If that’s the case, this is about in line with that.

At a certain point, the closer polls are the ones that become the outliers. After like, what, 18 national polls in a row and 6 MI polls in a row showing Biden ahead by double digits? I think it’s pretty safe to say he’s got a big lead.
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2020, 10:21:18 AM »

Say what you will about the virulently misogynistic "men's rights activism" movement, but they put together a hell of a poll.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2020, 11:32:28 AM »

Say what you will about the virulently misogynistic "men's rights activism" movement, but they put together a hell of a poll.

What else would you expect from an epic faction of "men's rights activists"?
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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2020, 11:44:40 AM »

I ...have my doubts.

I expect Michigan to snap back pretty hard from 2016, but not this hard.
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2020, 11:49:12 AM »

I ...have my doubts.

I expect Michigan to snap back pretty hard from 2016, but not this hard.

Who are you gonna trust, your instincts and common sense or a man named "Bernie Porn?"

I know which one I'm trusting.
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2020, 02:04:41 PM »

Say what you will about the virulently misogynistic "men's rights activism" movement, but they put together a hell of a poll.

It's the epic version of the men's rights activism movement. We support strong, compassionate men like Uncle Joe
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2020, 06:54:32 PM »

If this is what "the employment bump" does to trump, then I hope we continue to see more of it.
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#JOBBUMP #LAWANDORDER #BURISMA
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2020, 07:07:45 PM »

New Poll: Michigan President by EPIC/MRA on 2020-06-04

Summary: D: 55%, R: 39%, U: 6%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2020, 06:05:28 AM »

Biden won't win MI by 16% and polls probably are underrating Trump a bit in states like these (but not necessarily nationwide). It is clear though that Trump is down here right now and most likely be will pose MI.
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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2020, 10:28:42 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2020, 05:13:48 PM »

Good for Trump
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2020, 06:33:54 PM »

As much as I appreciate that all these Michigan polls seem to be establishing that Biden has a solid lead there so far, I kind of am getting tired of being so inundated with them. There are other battleground states that need to be polled too.
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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2020, 08:16:23 AM »



Exactly. People are just way overreacting to 2016. The polls aren't going to be off by 15 points.
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